NHL Entry Draft 2018 Draft - Prospect Discussion (Poll added)

[topshelf15]

Iam still of the opinion,that even if we win the 1st,I would look to move it,if we resign EK ...Dahlin will seem redundent,we need a physical shut down top 4 defender...And absolutely more help up front

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

Iam still of the opinion,that even if we win the 1st,I would look to move it,if we resign EK ...Dahlin will seem redundent,we need a physical shut down top 4 defender...And absolutely more help up front

Dahlin is pretty much the best defensive player to come out of the draft in a decade, how is he redundant? Our D is a tire fire. Dahlin is going to be elite at all aspects of the game.

 

[topshelf15]

Dahlin is pretty much the best defensive player to come out of the draft in a decade, how is he redundant? Our D is a tire fire. Dahlin is going to be elite at all aspects of the game.

What i mean is we have already two very good PMD...Including the best one in EK,and Chabot...Adding a 3rd while it would seem nice ,isnt a priority...We need some bite in the top 4 and better shut down capability ,and most off all a real stud in the top 6 ...

Moving Dahlin could net this team both....

 

[BondraTime]

What i mean is we have already two very good PMD...Including the best one in EK,and Chabot...Adding a 3rd while it would seem nice ,isnt a priority...We need some bite in the top 4 and better shut down capability ,and most off all a real stud in the top 6 ...

Moving Dahlin could net this team both....

You seem to be under the impression Dahlin is offensive?

He'd probably be our best defensive D from the get go, at most a year away.

He just is also extremely gifted on offense.

 

[Mingus Dew]

You seem to be under the impression Dahlin is offensive?

He'd probably be our best defensive D from the get go, at most a year away.

He just is also extremely gifted on offense.

Karlsson effect. People see a smooth skating defenceman that racks up points and they automatically assume he must be defensively suspect.

 

[The Lewler]

What i mean is we have already two very good PMD...Including the best one in EK,and Chabot...Adding a 3rd while it would seem nice ,isnt a priority...We need some bite in the top 4 and better shut down capability ,and most off all a real stud in the top 6 ...

Moving Dahlin could net this team both....

Then you trade Chabot for one of those other pieces we need.. seems simple enough.

If we land Dahlin a whole new world of possibilities opens up.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Why wouldn’t we just keep Karlsson, Chabot and Dahlin and run with the of the most impressive top-4’s in the league lol? Nashville seems to be doing alright.

 

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That's what worries me about this draft. There seems to be little distinguishing picks 4 to around 11 or so. Picking 3-5th could end up with the worst player in the top 10 a few years down the line. The way things are going this year, it feels like we'll drop to 4/5th, then select the "Dylan McIlrath" of the top 10.

Dylan Strome'ing it would be worse

 

[branch]

I don't think he has an elite shot. He can shoot hard but not exceptionally hard, and he doesn't put it where it needs to go nearly enough, just 8 goals in 40 games. Most of the highlights I watched showed him scoring down low near the net- he uses his size well. A lot of his better highlights were passes, actually.

This sort of reminds me of when Crouse got top 5 hype. That's not to say he'll struggle as much as Crouse has early, but they were both seen as well rounded, big strong forwards with great intangibles. Tkachuk plays a more abrasive style but I think both of them lack the offensive instincts and creativity that you'd want from a highly drafted forward. Formenton is like this as well- he plays fast and physical and typically makes the right play, but not necessarily the great/best play available. I don't think it's right to assume that with Brady, you're essentially getting a player at the level of his brother. Matthew has better offensive instincts. I don't think Brady will be as productive as his brother in the NHL.

It would have been a lot easier to evaluate this guy's offensive skills if he was in the CHL. College stats are different.

 

[Sens Vader]

Why wouldn’t we just keep Karlsson, Chabot and Dahlin and run with the of the most impressive top-4’s in the league lol? Nashville seems to be doing alright.

the 10 million dollar question right there

 

[HSF]

People are way to hard on Brady

 

[Emerica]

Iam still of the opinion,that even if we win the 1st,I would look to move it,if we resign EK ...Dahlin will seem redundent,we need a physical shut down top 4 defender...And absolutely more help up front

It's pretty easy to spot people who have no clue about the guys in the draft, even when it comes to the best player. Dahlin is a two-way guy. He's just as capable in the defensive zone as he is in the offensive zone. He would instantly become a top pairing guy on our roster, with or without Karlsson.

If we ever win the lottery, they aren't trading the pick. That just doesn't happen. When is the last time the 1st overall pick was traded? Managers realize how hard it is to win the 1st pick, unlike some fans in fantasy land. You don't trade the most talented player in the draft, you build around him. We are the last team that should consider trading an elite talent on his ELC.

 

[Sens Vader]

People are way to hard on Brady

yeah I dont get it either, hes awesome and id be happy if we were to draft him

 

[BondraTime]

yeah I dont get it either, hes awesome and id be happy if we were to draft him

He's not who I'm hoping for, for sure, but I'll be fine if we draft him.

 

[SAK11]

It would have been a lot easier to evaluate this guy's offensive skills if he was in the CHL. College stats are different.

True. 8 goals just really jumps out as a disappointment. You look at other college players that went in the top 5 and they all scored a whole lot more. Intangibles only help so much, if you're being picked that high you need to produce.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

People are way to hard on Brady

I think people are just kinda weary of guys who are projected high based on their toughness or all around game. I admit to not knowing much about Tkachuk, so I'll trust our scouts whatever they decide, but this team really needs to hit a homerun with this pick and get an elite player, not a really good second liner.

 

[topshelf15]

It's pretty easy to spot people who have no clue about the guys in the draft, even when it comes to the best player. Dahlin is a two-way guy. He's just as capable in the defensive zone as he is in the offensive zone. He would instantly become a top pairing guy on our roster, with or without Karlsson.

If we ever win the lottery, they aren't trading the pick. That just doesn't happen. When is the last time the 1st overall pick was traded? Managers realize how hard it is to win the 1st pick, unlike some fans in fantasy land. You don't trade the most talented player in the draft, you build around him. We are the last team that should consider trading an elite talent on his ELC.

Please dont lecture me about a draft pick or prospect...I have been watching hockey for over 35 years.....My original point still remains,if resign EK to say a 80 million dollar deal we already have a number 1 defender......With a 2nd top pairing PMD devloping in Chabot...

Why on earth would we not at least see what is possible to aquire with such a valuable asset,to fill more than just one hole

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I wouldnt mind Tkachuk too, when I seen him play a few games he reeks havoc and like someone said in this thread, he is a killer downlow and excellent finisher.

With that said, he's a step behind Dahlin, Svech and Boqvist for me.

Svechnikov, Hughes. List end.

You haven't seen Boqvist.

I think a lot of people aren't as high on Boqvist cause not a lot see him, I've seen a few games and wowzers, he's literally a mini-EK. Look at their ability and play 2 years pre-draft. They are both known for their remarkable speed, skating, and ability with the puck. I've read 2 different reports that have said Boqvist has the skill of a top line forward playing defense. Combine that with good positioning and awareness and it's EK Jr.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

I wouldnt mind Tkachuk too, when I seen him play a few games he reeks havoc and like someone said in this thread, he is a killer downlow and excellent finisher.

With that said, he's a step behind Dahlin, Svech and Boqvist for me.




You haven't seen Boqvist.

I think a lot of people aren't as high on Boqvist cause not a lot see him, I've seen a few games and wowzers, he's literally a mini-EK. Look at their ability and play 2 years pre-draft. They are both known for their remarkable speed, skating, and ability with the puck. I've read 2 different reports that have said Boqvist has the skill of a top line forward playing defense. Combine that with good positioning and awareness and it's EK Jr.

Imagine having two EKs and Chabot? We wouldn't even need good forwards lol.

 

[topshelf15]

Imagine having two EKs and Chabot? We wouldn't even need good forwards lol.

You would think so...But we need far better forwards for sure,they are one of the main reason as to why this team failed....

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

You would think so...But we need far better forwards for sure,they are one of the main reason as to why this team failed....

Ya I was just joking, we'd definitely still need good forwards. But Karlsson, Karlsson clone, Chabot, Duchene, Stone, Hoffman, Brown is a hell of a core to work with.

 

[Emerica]

Please dont lecture me about a draft pick or prospect...I have been watching hockey for over 35 years.....My original point still remains,if resign EK to say a 80 million dollar deal we already have a number 1 defender......With a 2nd top pairing PMD devloping in Chabot...

Why on earth would we not at least see what is possible to aquire with such a valuable asset,to fill more than just one hole

Oh the good old “I’ve been watching hockey longer than you” argument. My grandma has been watching hockey for 50+ years. That doesn’t make her more knowledgable, especially when it comes to prospects.

The fact that you stated adding an 18yo #1 D would be redundant is absolutely laughable. I can understand the sentiment of wanting to add some offensive weapons up front but to do it at the expense of Dahlin is mind boggling. If our d core is so good(which it is not) that adding another #1 D would be overkill, we should look into trading Ceci, Boro or even Chabot for offensive help. We already have a good looking top 6 with Duchene, Stone, Hoffman, Dzingel and 3/4 of our top prospects are forwards.

Passing on a franchise altering defensemen to add some complementary pieces on offense is ludicrous.

 

[topshelf15]

Oh the good old “I’ve been watching hockey longer than you” argument. My grandma has been watching hockey for 50+ years. That doesn’t make her more knowledgable, especially when it comes to prospects.

The fact that you stated adding an 18yo #1 D would be redundant is absolutely laughable. I can understand the sentiment of wanting to add some offensive weapons up front but to do it at the expense of Dahlin is mind boggling. If our d core is so good(which it is not) that adding another #1 D would be overkill, we should look into trading Ceci, Boro or even Chabot for offensive help. We already have a good looking top 6 with Duchene, Stone, Hoffman, Dzingel and 3/4 of our top prospects are forwards.

Passing on a franchise altering defensemen to add some complementary pieces on offense is ludicrous.

Just stop ....Its ok to have a different opinion ,and just because mine is different from yours doesnt make it wrong ...Please try to remember this

 

[JungleBeat]

His skill level is unbelievable. Producing good numbers in the second best league worldwide as a teenager.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Iam still of the opinion,that even if we win the 1st,I would look to move it,if we resign EK ...Dahlin will seem redundent,we need a physical shut down top 4 defender...And absolutely more help up front

Checks username, yep checks out lol.