2017-18 Kings News/Rumors/Tidbits

[tsanuri]

So many different things to consider with bringing Slava back.

1. Does Slava want to come back?
2. Do the Kings want Slava back? If you listen to our logal blog guys they do want him back. But these guys aren't totally reliable.
3. What does the league do? They could easily suspend him all of next season.
4. What is his immigration status?

I'm still leaning on him never coming back.

It's not just him coming back on the PR front as well His contact is over after next year So the Kings would need to sign him to a new contract as well It's one level to bring back someone under your control vs giving him a multi million dollar new contract. Why would the team even think about the nightmare it will become if they don't control his rights

 

[Fat Elvis]

My pick, Linus Nyman.

Still being 18, I bet he gets drafted, possibly by LA.

I meant to ask about older Junior free agents that could be signed ala Strand and Kehler.

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Still being 18, I bet he gets drafted, possibly by LA.

I meant to ask about older Junior free agents that could be signed ala Strand and Kehler.

Yes but Nyman wasnt drafted.

Martin Jones was signed by the Kings as an unrestricted free agent following training camp in October, 2008. He was 18 as well.
Philippe Myers was signed by Philly and Alexandre Fortin by Chicago after going undrafted.

Am I missing something here ?

 

[regulate]

So many different things to consider with bringing Slava back.

1. Does Slava want to come back?
2. Do the Kings want Slava back? If you listen to our logal blog guys they do want him back. But these guys aren't totally reliable.
3. What does the league do? They could easily suspend him all of next season.
4. What is his immigration status?

I'm still leaning on him never coming back.

I have no idea if Voynov wants to come back and play in the NHL, but there is zero doubt in my mind that Blake and the Kings want him back and will do everything to lure him back into the fold. It's been reported multiple times from different sources that the Kings want him back, and for Blake is all business. He's not into virtue signaling. Voynov paid for his mistake(s) in the U.S. legal system, voluntarily self-deported and lost his job, his wife is still with him (sure looked like a happy family at the Olympics), it's done and over with. While he will likely draw a suspension, it's not going to be that substantial. The most significant hurdle by far is getting the work visa in the US and Canada. If Kings fans can't get over it, then move on to another team or drop being a fan. It's your money.

 

[Fat Elvis]

Yes but Nyman wasnt drafted.

Martin Jones was signed by the Kings as an unrestricted free agent following training camp in October, 2008. He was 18 as well.
Philippe Myers was signed by Philly and Alexandre Fortin by Chicago after going undrafted.

Am I missing something here ?

Strand and Kehler are 20, which was the CHL free agents I was inferring. I should have been more precise and said "20 year olds".
Nyman being 158 lbs is not ideal. Fear of another Kozun, Roe, Watson and Azevedo would all come to mind, yet all weighed 10% more than Nyman. Decent AHL player, most likely goes back to Europe.

 

[redcard]

Yes but Nyman wasnt drafted.

Martin Jones was signed by the Kings as an unrestricted free agent following training camp in October, 2008. He was 18 as well.
Philippe Myers was signed by Philly and Alexandre Fortin by Chicago after going undrafted.

Am I missing something here ?

Checked the (current so maybe it was different in 2008) cba:

8.9
Eligibility for Play in the League.
No Player shall be eligible for play in the League
unless he:

(b)
had been eligible for claim in the last Entry Draft, but was unclaimed, and:

(ii)
had played hockey in North America the prior season and was under age
20 at the time of the last Entry Draft, and signed an SPC which was signed
and registered with the League between the conclusion of the Entry Draft
and commencement of the Major Juniors season (except that if such
Player had signed an NHL try-out form, which was signed and registered
with the League during the aforesaid time period, then the deadline for
signing and registering with the League an SPC with such try-out Club
shall be the commencement of the NHL Season).

So my understanding is that there is a window of time between the draft and start of the next season in which undrafted 18 or 19 year-olds can be signed. Once the season starts that window closes and those players are no longer UFAs until they go undrafted again.

 

[kingsfan28]

Strand and Kehler are 20, which was the CHL free agents I was inferring. I should have been more precise and said "20 year olds".
Nyman being 158 lbs is not ideal. Fear of another Kozun, Roe, Watson and Azevedo would all come to mind, yet all weighed 10% more than Nyman. Decent AHL player, most likely goes back to Europe.

Johnny hockey was 145 lbs soaking wet when he was drafted. A few weeks at Denny's will add more than a few pounds to Nyman.

 

[Sol]

Who the f*** cares about PR? I would love to have Voynov back. If Kobe could rebuild his image and accept awards from the hypocrites at Hollywood while being cheered then I don't care about Voynov.


Let them bitch for a week, we will be a better team with him for years.

 

[RONNIEC]

Who the **** cares about PR? I would love to have Voynov back. If Kobe could rebuild his image and accept awards from the hypocrites at Hollywood while being cheered then I don't care about Voynov.


Let them ***** for a week, we will be a better team with him for years.

I like your idea... but reality is, Kobe is a worldwide celebrity and all world basketball player... Voynov on the other hand... how many people would recognize him bar local hockey fans??? The magnitude is totally different.

 

[Master Yoda]

I like your idea... but reality is, Kobe is a worldwide celebrity and all world basketball player... Voynov on the other hand... how many people would recognize him bar local hockey fans??? The magnitude is totally different.

Exactly right. Which is why I think it will be forgotten after a week.

 

[lordjedediah]

If you think letting a domestic abuser who pled no contest (and then self deported rather than take the rehabilitation classes or face other consequences) become a part of the NHL again would be forgotten in a week you're woefully out of touch with the current social climate.

 

[Sol]

If you think letting a domestic abuser who pled no contest (and then self deported rather than take the rehabilitation classes or face other consequences) become a part of the NHL again would be forgotten in a week you're woefully out of touch with the current social climate.

I guarantee it.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

 

[AlphaBravo]

If you think letting a domestic abuser who pled no contest (and then self deported rather than take the rehabilitation classes or face other consequences) become a part of the NHL again would be forgotten in a week you're woefully out of touch with the current social climate.

The current climate targets big name celebrities. Most people in LA don't even know we have a hockey team, or can pronounce Slava Voynov for there to be coverage. Like I said before, there will be a minor column in the LA Times somewhere after coverage of high school tennis if Voynov is brought back. The youtoo movement doesn't care about unknowns. The hashtags go full force against popular celebrities.

 

[Brodeur]

So my understanding is that there is a window of time between the draft and start of the next season in which undrafted 18 or 19 year-olds can be signed. Once the season starts that window closes and those players are no longer UFAs until they go undrafted again.

This is correct.

The interesting caveat is that the window only applies to players who played in North America during their draft eligible year(s). The Kings had Radko Gudas as an invite for prospect camp in summer 2009 and liked him a lot, but they were prohibited from offering him an ELC due to this rule since Gudas had only played in Europe up to that point. There was an instance where the rule got misinterpreted by the Flyers and an agent; Philly tried to sign Tomas Hyka but the contract got rejected by the NHL. Philly thought Hyka was eligible to be signed since he was going to play in the CHL, but he had only played in Europe before that season. I think there's another clause in there which disallowed Edmonton from signing Vladimir Tkachev a few years back. Tkachev played in the CHL but had also played a few games in Russia that season, which made him ineligible to be signed.

 

[The Pale King]

Not a fan of sitting on that terrible loss from Saturday for ~five days. What a schedule.

 

[Bandit]

The current climate targets big name celebrities. Most people in LA don't even know we have a hockey team, or can pronounce Slava Voynov for there to be coverage. Like I said before, there will be a minor column in the LA Times somewhere after coverage of high school tennis if Voynov is brought back. The youtoo movement doesn't care about unknowns. The hashtags go full force against popular celebrities.

Personally, I don't care about the climate. I don't like what he did, and I don't want him on my favorite hockey team.

 

[Stimpythecat]

tl;dr - Due to his age, Vilardi will either be on the kings next season or in the OHL, not the AHL. Because he was drafted out of major junior hockey he can't play in a North American pro league other than the NHL until he is 20.


Scouting reports on Vilardi, who "makes everyone around him better" - LA Kings Insider

Where can Gabe Vilardi play when his OHL season is done? - LA Kings Insider

 

[Herby]

We should get a pretty good read on how good he is and how close he is to being NHL ready based on his performance with the Reign. He should immediately step in and be one of the best players on the team.

 

[Sol]

If he can't jump into the AHL next year we should bring him up to the NHL already

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Personally, I don't care about the climate. I don't like what he did, and I don't want him on my favorite hockey team.

I also don't care about the climate. I also don't like what he did. BUT, I also think a LOT of players probably do things we wouldn't like, we just don't know about them. You've probably done things I wouldn't like...and I've probably done things you wouldn't like. Who f***ing cares...we learn from our mistakes, we pay for them and we move the f*** on.

 

[KingsHockey24]

They made a Black and White episode on.. Sean Backman?..

 

[Winger23]

I also don't care about the climate. I also don't like what he did. BUT, I also think a LOT of players probably do things we wouldn't like, we just don't know about them. You've probably done things I wouldn't like...and I've probably done things you wouldn't like. Who ****ing cares...we learn from our mistakes, we pay for them and we move the **** on.

I understand and believe in giving people 2nd chances on things like addictions. I've been at times furious with my wife but at absolutely no time have I ever felt the the urge to physically harm her. I don't want to cheer for him so no, I don't want him back even if he makes the team better.

It's sickening that because of high profiles guys like Kobe, ray Lewis etc can keep their jobs and still be worshipped like many.

This is all just my opinion, and I respect others that don't share my view and that's fine. I just hope he stays out of this country and gets help.

 

[HeadInjury]

Kobe's situation is different as it was never proven that he committed a crime. The issue was whether the alleged victim had consented to a certain sexual act after participating in another sexual act willingly. She apparently never resisted or said no to the second act and Kobe contends that he thought everything was kosher. Very difficult legal issue.

Kobe's police interview was recorded and available on the internet. It's an interesting listen.

Kobe is guilty of cheating on his wife. He's far from alone in that.

He may be guilty of more, but there's that whole innocent until proven guilty thing we should keep in mind.

 

[KINGS17]

They made a Black and White episode on.. Sean Backman?..

Pretty cool. Good for him getting to make a good living doing something he loves.