2017-18 Around the League | Congratulations Washington Capitals!

[GodPucker]

Was listening to the Power Play today. Interesting take by POS that Hoffman wasn't liked in the locker room. Seems to also say that Karlsson wasn't either though.

Hoffman has said to have been a "me" guy. Or comes across that way. Never heard anything about EK.

 

[BlackDogg]

I don't follow this guy, but maybe NHL players get summer jobs too...

 

[LemmyUlanov55]

That Hoffman trade is one wild thing, had a good laugh in the morning.
Man of the day: GM Doug Wilson.

 

[North]

That Hoffman trade is one wild thing, had a good laugh in the morning.
Man of the day: GM Doug Wilson.

I can't wait to see how Dorian bungles the Karlsson trade.

 

[PaPaDee]

I can't wait to see how Dorian bungles the Karlsson trade.

Maybe he’ll be desperate to get some positive spin and reach out to PC.

 

[LemmyUlanov55]

I can't wait to see how Dorian bungles the Karlsson trade.

Well, it seems like Dorian and Bergevin are battling hard this summer for the Milbury award.
I just hope Chia doesn't spoil the party..

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

I was thinking lucic for hjalmarsson might be feasible.

 

[joestevens29]

Trotz finalizing deal with Islanders. I suspect they'll have it ready so he is there tomorrow in Dallas.

 

[oobga]

I was thinking lucic for hjalmarsson might be feasible.

Would an analytics wizard take on Lucic? He looks horrible these last 2 years by almost every measure, except a nice run of PP scoring in 16/17. Think we might be reduced to the super old school GM's like Bergevin, Benning, Talon and the like.

 

[BlackDogg]

Well, it seems like Dorian and Bergevin are battling hard this summer for the Milbury award.
I just hope Chia doesn't spoil the party..

It should be getting increasingly harder to botch trades once the best assets are already traded. I think we are at about trade 3.

 

[Coffey]

Looks like Hamilton got traded for being too cultured and not going to shitty restaurants.



Flames gonna flame.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Flames would rather hand their hat with Ratboy, Johnnie Slewfoot and Mike “DramaQueen” Smith.

 

[Coffey]

Flames would rather hand their hat with Ratboy, Johnnie Slewfoot and Mike “DramaQueen” Smith.

What else do you expect from a city that has an arena modeled after a seat for an ass.

 

[BlackDogg]

Looks like Hamilton got traded for being too cultured and not going to ****ty restaurants.



Flames gonna flame.

He had no moxy anyway.

 

[belair]

He had no moxy anyway.

I'll see you guys later I'm going to the......uhhh.......museum.

 

[yukoner88]

What else do you expect from a city that has an arena modeled after a seat for an ass.

I always thought it looked like a tampon pad for when women have their blood ocean. Makes the red uniforms rather fitting.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

I'm just not buying this lack of character thing from Hamilton at all.

He played with tons of heart in Niagara.

Chiarelli wanted to trade for him, but Boston asked too much from us because they don't like Chia. Peter knew Dougie very well and we all know how much he values character.

 

[nightfighter]

I'm just not buying this lack of character thing from Hamilton at all.

He played with tons of heart in Niagara.

Chiarelli wanted to trade for him, but Boston asked too much from us because they don't like Chia. Peter knew Dougie very well and we all know how much he values character.

It's typical post-trade character assassination BS spin so that the team trading the best player can look better. TBF, it doesn't always come from the team but a city's media and fans are obsessed with "winning" every trade. Happens everytime a marquee player is traded (ie. Subban, Hall, Seguin, Johansen, etc)

 

[joestevens29]

It's typical post-trade character assassination BS spin so that the team trading the best player can look better. TBF, it doesn't always come from the team but a city's media and fans are obsessed with "winning" every trade. Happens everytime a marquee player is traded (ie. Subban, Hall, Seguin, Johansen, etc)

Explain why a guy like Dougie Hamilton is always on the block? It makes little to no sense.

I don't think he's a bad guy, he's just a guy that doesn't fit in a locker room.

 

[Paralyzer]

Wrong thread.

 

[nightfighter]

Explain why a guy like Dougie Hamilton is always on the block? It makes little to no sense.

I don't think he's a bad guy, he's just a guy that doesn't fit in a locker room.

"Always"? It's only been twice. First time Doug wanted out of Boston because they weren't gonna pay him and the team was floundering at the time. This time...apparently he's a cancer for wanting to go to museums?

The guy has warts in his game for sure; Hamilton brings a lot of offense but got exposed defensively last year. So did Hamonic/Brodie. For a guy that flames fans were trumpeting as top pairing guy that they'd only trade for Draisatl, this is a marked reversal on the player's value.

 

[oobga]

"Always"? It's only been twice. First time Doug wanted out of Boston because they weren't gonna pay him and the team was floundering at the time. This time...apparently he's a cancer for wanting to go to museums?

The guy has warts in his game for sure; Hamilton brings a lot of offense but got exposed defensively last year. So did Hamonic/Brodie. For a guy that flames fans were trumpeting as top pairing guy that they'd only trade for Draisatl, this is a marked reversal on the player's value.

There was a question of his character and fit with culture when he was traded from Boston too by Sweeney/Neely. Pretty much the exact same thing as when Seguin was traded, they leaked that there were off-ice issues and ran a little smear campaign. I think Boston media even commented on Hamilton again after this trade, saying that Hamilton skipped a team outing with the Bruins too.

This is the 2nd smear campaign against him in Dougies career. Like you said, it's working again too. Many flames fans have changed from Dougie being an untouchable elite top pair offensive D, to being glad he's gone cause he was a bad apple.

 

[nightfighter]

There was a question of his character and fit with culture when he was traded from Boston too by Sweeney/Neely. Pretty much the exact same thing as when Seguin was traded, they leaked that there were off-ice issues and ran a little smear campaign. I think Boston media even commented on Hamilton again after this trade, saying that Hamilton skipped a team outing with the Bruins too.

This is the 2nd smear campaign against him in Dougies career.

Fair enough, but again it's coming from the team that traded the best player in the deal. Maybe there's a bit of bias in that message.

Either way, I don't agree with trading away talent for intangible reasons like "locker room cancer" or "wasn't a team guy". I don't even like it if it's for cap reasons. At the end of the day, when you trade away the best talent continually, you lose. We've seen that here with the departure of Hall and Eberle.

 

[oobga]

Fair enough, but again it's coming from the team that traded the best player in the deal. Maybe there's a bit of bias in that message.

Either way, I don't agree with trading away talent for intangible reasons like "locker room cancer" or "wasn't a team guy". I don't even like it if it's for cap reasons. At the end of the day, when you trade away the best talent continually, you lose. We've seen that here with the departure of Hall and Eberle.

Definitely agree, there is bias involved and there is a clear attempt to temper any anger from fans when they clearly know they gave the best player up.

Maybe being a crazy party nut that is snorting lines in public could be a reason to move on from a guy. But in this case, it seems to be that Hamilton doesn't party hard enough? I certainly hope that the flames have concluded that not enough partying was the cause of their failed season last year.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Read today it had little to do with chemistry but it was the Flames wanted to alter their top pair back to Brodie and Giordano and have Hamilton with Hamonic on the 2nd pair including the 2nd pair PP. That did not sit well with Hamilton and thus the trade was made. He was an unhappy camper with where his usage and ice time was about to go. Ferland was up for a massive raise so the Canes traded their unhappy campers with one Flames unhappy camper and a player the Flames I think seriously undervalued, along with Fox who they had no hope of signing who McKenzie said was the key to the deal.