2016 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

[Daisy Jane]

Yes that's right good memory
What if they miss the playoffs in 2017

if they miss
we get their 2nd round pick.

 

[TheLeastOfTheBunch]

Best case scenario is Pittsburgh finishes with the last WC spot in the East, around 16/17 in league wide standings, and gets eliminated in the first 2 rounds in the playoffs. Would lead to the Pens pick being 15th overall for the Leafs

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

if they miss
we get their 2nd round pick.

I still can't believe we aren't even guaranteed a 1st round pick from that trade.

 

[p.l.f.]

That doesn't sound right
And I'm too lazy to check

 

[Rare Jewel]

From General Fanager.

7/1/2015:

To Pittsburgh:
Phil Kessel, Tyler Biggs, Tim Erixon, 2016 PIT 2*

To Toronto:
Kasperi Kapanen, Nick Spaling, Scott Harrington, 2016 PIT 1*, 2016 NJD 3

Conditions:
*If Pittsburgh qualifies for the 2016 postseason, Toronto will receive 2016 PIT 1 and the Penguins will receive 2016 PIT 2.

*Should Pittsburgh miss the 2016 playoffs, Toronto will INSTEAD receive 2017 PIT 1; and Pittsburgh will receive 2017 TOR 2

*If the Penguins were to miss the postseason the next two years, Toronto would receive 2017 PIT 2 and Pittsburgh would not receive a draft pick.

 

[p.l.f.]

Got it
So we hope they make the playoffs as a bubble team

 

[91Stammer*]

The best case Scenario for me would be that Pittsburgh misses playoffs in both seasons we get 2 high 2nd rounders and they have a player who can't help that team win games. Don't you guys think that would be amazing? It sure will entertain me. So much for princess Sid and Malqueen and their Castle.

 

[Sundinisagod]

Perhaps, though when it comes to the first overall there seems to be rarely a doubt as to who would go first.

The Leafs most reverb pick was at a spot where there really wasn't much separating Hanifin/Marner/Stelme. If they had the #2 pick I can guarantee you Hunter would have selected Eichel, even though he's not afraid of making picks that challenge conventional wisdom.

The gap between Eichel and Hanifin, Strome and Marner appears to be much more significant than Matthews and Chychrun though. If Chychrun is projected to be in the Doughty/Hedman stratosphere then there may be a discussion to be had. It's too early to say Matthews is a lock for 1st, even though he is the heavy favourite at this point.

 

[thehockeysong]

The best case Scenario for me would be that Pittsburgh misses playoffs in both seasons we get 2 high 2nd rounders and they have a player who can't help that team win games. Don't you guys think that would be amazing? It sure will entertain me. So much for princess Sid and Malqueen and their Castle.

That wouldn't be amazing. No reason to cheer against Phil.

Edit: although it seems like you just hate everyone on that team haha. Good luck with that.

 

[horner]

Watched the Sudbury twice.
Levin eligible for the 2017 entry draft
The kid is going to be a stud.

 

[horner]

Thanks for posting the vids. Yeah he would certainly be a welcome addition, tough call between him and Pulju, will be an interesting storyline as the season progresses.

We are lacking a pure goal scorer and he is big.

What is his skating like.

 

[Highlander23]

The other nylander looks quite good. I kinda hoped he didn't came to NA (less exposure makes him available in the 2nd)

 

[Mats13]

Ok so I know this will sound over dramatic, but...

the results of this poll sicken me. Matthews is a generational talent, GENERATIONAL. He is McEichel level, why the **** would you trade him for the 2nd (or 3rd) best plus a dime a dozen prospect?

All 73 of you who voted for that option sicken me.

Now being less dramatic, anyone who would make that trade is hilariously out to lunch and thankfully the Leafs front office would never make such a dumb deal.

 

[Ramboshaw]

Will be interesting to see where Alex DeBrincat ends up getting drafted.
If he puts up 65 goals or so but only at 5'7 where does a kid like that go?

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

lets say we get the 1st pick and draft matthews, how do we draft a high end d men?
or do we trade for a young up and coming one?

 

[Mats13]

lets say we get the 1st pick and draft matthews, how do we draft a high end d men?
or do we trade for a young up and coming one?

There a chychrun level Dmen every year, there are not Matthews level centres every year.

The day you start drafting based on need is the day you will regret for the next 15 years.

 

[Cor]

Will be interesting to see where Alex DeBrincat ends up getting drafted.
If he puts up 65 goals or so but only at 5'7 where does a kid like that go?

In Eastside Hockey Manager, he always goes 1st Overall.

Then again, Matthews goes like 22nd Overall, so it might not be the best judgment



Nah, but there's a kid who is going to be passed by, and whoever does draft him, is going to be rewarded greatly.

 

[91Kadri91*]

There a chychrun level Dmen every year, there are not Matthews level centres every year.

The day you start drafting based on need is the day you will regret for te next 15 years.

You obviously take Matthews if you have the first pick (as of today), but there is not a Chychrun level defenseman every year.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

There a chychrun level Dmen every year, there are not Matthews level centres every year.

The day you start drafting based on need is the day you will regret for the next 15 years.

alright thats not what i was asking, im just saying how do we get another top end d men as in a literal question cause we need one, do we trade up or what? lol

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

and yeah chychrun looks to on the ekblad level of dmen which is nothing to scoff at

 

[Sundinisagod]

lets say we get the 1st pick and draft matthews, how do we draft a high end d men?
or do we trade for a young up and coming one?

Use the Pens 1st rounder on a D. Then use whatever 2nd rounders we have on D men as well. Always some stud defenders to be found with late 1sts and in the 2nd round. Take enough swings eventually hit a home run.

 

[Sundinisagod]

I still can't believe we aren't even guaranteed a 1st round pick from that trade.

Same.

 

[Mats13]

and yeah chychrun looks to on the ekblad level of dmen which is nothing to scoff at

McEichel level forward >> Ekblad level dman

 

[Mats13]

alright thats not what i was asking, im just saying how do we get another top end d men as in a literal question cause we need one, do we trade up or what? lol

I see what you're saying but there is ways to get top Dmen later in the draft, it barely ever happens with forwards of Matthews caliber

 

[Sundinisagod]

McEichel level forward >> Ekblad level dman

From what info I've read, it's more accurate to say that he's Eichel level and that might even be slightly generous, as many feel he would have gone 3rd if he were in the 2015 draft. And I think Chychrun is more of a Doughty type than Ekblad. To me, it the gap doesn't appear to be as big as you are suggesting.