GDT: 2016 NHL Draft

[Joe McGrath]

Yet we haven't had a decent net front presence in years.

What you said was to play 4th line minutes and stand in front of the net. Brendan Woods can do that and not stunt Gauthiers development and take a year off his ELC.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Gauthier scored 40 in the QMJHL. I take back what o said, he has skill. No reason to gwt him into the NHL, no team is one non lottery 18 year old away from success.

 

[Novacane]

With how physically developed Gauthier is, is he a case of someone that would be better suited in the AHL than the Q in an ideal world? I guess he could work on his playmaking reading the statline.

 

[geehaad]

he roofs like four of the first 5 goals.

Yeah, this one. I guess I don't understand what you meant when you said that he couldn't finish an unelevated puck from in close. With him roofing all of these goals from close to the net, isn't that showing that he has good hands in close?

 

[DaveG]

Sadomasochism

Stop looking at my computer damnit.


I mean wait... wut?



Smart move on Gauthier here is one more year of junior though. Don't rush this kid, he has the potential and the skillset already in place to be a good one, and it's capable of being developed even more. Far from a finished game-ready product even if he has some game-ready attributes.


so, right now, looks like the big name that's still on the board is DeBrincat, but there's also Bastien, Asplund, Abramov, Mascherin, Mattson, Bitten, and Koukkanen out there. Decent chance we get one of them.

 

[Ole Gil]

Yeah, this one. I guess I don't understand what you meant when you said that he couldn't finish an unelevated puck from in close. With him roofing all of these goals from close to the net, isn't that showing that he has good hands in close?

I have no idea. Maybe it was Logan Brown, but he's a playmaker, so I don't know why it'd have bothered me even if it was him?

Maybe Jordan Staal?

 

[The Faulker 27]

What you said was to play 4th line minutes and stand in front of the net. Brendan Woods can do that and not stunt Gauthiers development and take a year off his ELC.

Actually, what I said was play 4th line minutes, special teams, stand in front of the net minutes. What I meant was he could do all or some of that and if he became a skilled net front presence that could be extremely beneficial for the team. I don't disagree you though. A year in the AHL isn't going to hurt a bit, I just think at his size and relative skill he appears to be capable of contributing next season. I'm eyeballing it of course.

 

[Brock Anton]

All three top goalies are still out there as well (Hart, Gustavsson, Fitzpatrick), have to think a G may be in play at #43.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

All three top goalies are still out there as well (Hart, Gustavsson, Fitzpatrick), have to think a G may be in play at #43.

I see no reason why we would take a goalie that early and I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't take one at all this draft.

I'd go looking in the mid rounds.

 

[The Faulker 27]

I agree that he doesn't appear to have "pure goal scorer" ability, but my point is the Canes still seem him as a goal scorer (as was stated by their head scout). Based on skill alone, nobody would call Holmstrom or Franzen "goal scorers", but that's what they did. So to say "They didn't draft him for his scoring ability, that's as obvious as it gets" is really a misrepresentation. Did they draft him as a "sniper"? No, but they drafted him as a big guy that can pot goals down low, in other words, for his scoring ability.

In terms of him not being drafted where he was if he was 5'11", 175, that's totally irrelevant. If he was 5'11", 175, he'd be playing a totally different style of game which wouldn't be relevant to this.

True, I was off with my initial comment. I just didn't see a goal scorer when I watched some of the highlight videos but a guy that is so much bigger than his peers that driving the net, and over powering to score isnt a big problem. On closer inspection he's got a pretty good release.

 

[geehaad]

The other knock on him I've read here is his goal::assist ratio, and I know that someone pointed it out previously, but this wasn't an issue in the previous year(s). Obviously I don't know why this past year was so different, but maybe it's dumb luck or maybe his linemates couldn't cash in, or maybe he just ****ing scored when the puck was on his stick. Who knows, but I don't see it as a major red flag.

 

[FreshSeabass]

I dont really see the rick nash comparison people are making to Gauthier, but i would be >= happy with a rick nah 2.0

 

[DaveG]

The other knock on him I've read here is his goal::assist ratio, and I know that someone pointed it out previously, but this wasn't an issue in the previous year(s). Obviously I don't know why this past year was so different, but maybe it's dumb luck or maybe his linemates couldn't cash in, or maybe he just ****ing scored when the puck was on his stick. Who knows, but I don't see it as a major red flag.

Yep. A lot of concern was raised that he was a "selfish" player but I'm just not buying it. The guy can pass, but he's an absolute sniper. If the puck's not falling for your linemates and you have the capacity to put it in with that kind of authority and regularity yourself then you absolutely 100% do just that.

 

[geehaad]

I wonder how low of a real payroll you could get to by acquiring as many dead contracts as possible.

Holy crap...I didn't realize they still have one more year of Pronger at nearly $5M! Only $500K in real money, but that's $12.5M of nothing.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

debrincat sill on the board

 

[Roboturner913]

The other knock on him I've read here is his goal::assist ratio, and I know that someone pointed it out previously, but this wasn't an issue in the previous year(s). Obviously I don't know why this past year was so different, but maybe it's dumb luck or maybe his linemates couldn't cash in, or maybe he just ****ing scored when the puck was on his stick. Who knows, but I don't see it as a major red flag.

I could not care less how many assists a goal-scoring power wing has. That's just not his job. Worrying about that is just nitpicking for its own sake.

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

Anyone as disappointed in the lack of movement? So much talk of potentially huge moves and we get two? three? trades

 

[Lucky Lindy]

Hey ho! After like five hours sleep, I'm ready to go!

4½ hours!

 

[Highway29]

Hey ho! After like five hours sleep, I'm ready to go!

4½ hours!

Same here! Hoping for more trades today just for the sake of staying up the all night.

 

[AD Skinner]

So we got a forward who wears #12 and a defenseman who wears #2...

 

[Lucky Lindy]

Finally a new avatar again.

 

[My Special Purpose]

My thought on the Canes first two picks: they knew they wanted a D and an F just to keep the pipeline for both stocked. They ran their internal mocks both ways, taking a F at 13 and a D at 13 and found that they were able to get a better combo taking the D first. It makes sense, too, if you buy that premise, because all the top D-men were gone by 21.

 

[GoldiFox]

My thought on the Canes first two picks: they knew they wanted a D and an F just to keep the pipeline for both stocked. They ran their internal mocks both ways, taking a F at 13 and a D at 13 and found that they were able to get a better combo taking the D first. It makes sense, too, if you buy that premise, because all the top D-men were gone by 21.

Agreed.

Can't be too upset about it with the way the Draft fell. I liked a couple of the forwards more at #13, but the whole grouping (Bellows, Kunin, Gauthier, Jones, Rubstov, etc.) was basically one tier. If they were confident one would fall to them then it makes sense to take their top rated D. I'd like to hear where they had Bean ranked among D, Bob McKenzie said the top 3 D after Juolevi (Sergachev, Bean, and Chychrun) were also one tier. Wouldn't shock me if they had Bean rated fairly high.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

On my way into work. Will have to listen in on the radio all day.

 

[GoldiFox]

Things look pretty good for Rounds 2 and 3. Lot of talent left that could fall to #43 and even #67/74/75. DeBrincat, Katchouk, Mascherin, Kuokkanen, or Kyrou would be my favorites.