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WJC: 2015 — Canada Roster Talk (Part IV)
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If Canada brought a player like Miles Wood everyone would be losing their minds, no doubt about it!
Everyone seems to think the USA has better depth up front, but I don't see it at all. Would Anthony Louis, Hudson Fasching, and Nick Schmaltz even make Canada? I seriously don't think so.
If the best thing you can say about a player is that he isn't going to be a detriment, that's a problem.
Fasching is basically an older Crouse. Schmaltz was just drafted ahead of Robby Fabbri.
I don't know enough about Anthony Louis.
Very few of the Finns would have made Canada last year either. They won gold. I don't think that's a very good basis for an argument.
Your argument was that you don't want him on the team because you haven't watched him as much as other people? You don't want him because he plays under 10 minutes of ice? Who do you want there for less than 10 minutes of ice time?
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I think the point being made is that he'd prefer someone who could play more than 10 mins, instead of as a supposed 'specialist', because they can be used to do so in an all-around manner, much like pretty much everyone on the forward group.
The reasoning is sound.
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If it were up to me, as you imply, I would distribute the time as evenly as I could, though giving the 1st line, a little more, for obvious reasons. A 4 line attack, may seem to be a better way to go in a short tournament. Specialty player, would detract from that, imo. All the players in the top 9 have shown themselves to be an offencive threat without being defencive liabilities. There's no reason why the 4th line couldn't/shouldn't also be.
So you would rather roll 4 offensive lines? And you are also implying that the 4th line isn't good enough defensively or good enough offensively. The whole point of having that 4th line is to cause havoc and wear down opponents. What would your 4th line have been?
Must have quoted the wrong post or mine.
I didn't want Gauthier there because I personally don't feel he belongs.
I pretty much explained my exact reasoning for not wanting him there in a previous post.
I did nothing to suggest I hadn't seen him either. I've seen him.
I'm not surprised a leaf fan is in here coming to his rescue. It's almost as annoying as my fellow Canuck fans making virtanen-centered posts.
I don't care for Gauthier as a prospect. Has nothing to do with where he's drafted. He was on my do not draft list in his draft year.
I don't care what teams prospects make it, Virtanen, Gauthier, Crouse, point, doesn't matter. I just find it hilarious when someone plays such a small roll and everyone rips him because he "sucks" after a 6-0 exhibition game. Good for you for having him on your "do no draft list". Could you send me a list for this years guys, it would save me lots of time
. Who should be the 4th line centre for Canada then?I don't care what teams prospects make it, Virtanen, Gauthier, Crouse, point, doesn't matter. I just find it hilarious when someone plays such a small roll and everyone rips him because he "sucks" after a 6-0 exhibition game. Good for you for having him on your "do no draft list". Could you send me a list for this years guys, it would save me lots of time
Nick Paul. Does Gauthier's job defensively and is miles ahead in offensive ability and physicality. In this hypothetical, I wouldn't have cut Dal Colle, and would have run a bottom 6 of:
Dal Colle-Petan-Virtanen
Crouse-Paul-Point
That's 100 percent a fair thought. Although I take Gauthier for his draws and penalty killing abilities and I think Paul is more effective getting more ice time than a 4th line centre. I wouldn't have cut Dal Colle either. I've see what DC can do at multiple levels and feel that cutting him wasn't right even thoigh his skating was a major issue in camp. My point being that we have 3 great scoring lines and a 4th line that can create off the cycle. if offense isn't an issue, why not have a specialist for very tight games?
http://www.tsn.ca/video/wjhc-pre-competition-canada-vs-switzerland-1.167445
The other game should be just 1 video down.
No point being a dick about it.I don't care what teams prospects make it, Virtanen, Gauthier, Crouse, point, doesn't matter. I just find it hilarious when someone plays such a small roll and everyone rips him because he "sucks" after a 6-0 exhibition game. Good for you for having him on your "do no draft list". Could you send me a list for this years guys, it would save me lots of time
I thought I explained myself clearly, concisely and courteously.
Gauthier isn't good enough to play top 6 minutes if there was an injury.
He's a defensive specialist and he's really not all that special in those minutes (not even the best defensive forward on the team).
They don't even create on the cycle. Gauthier pins the puck and kills the 45 seconds.
Forgive me for wanting more out of a team Canada in a best on best tournament. I don't think Gauthier belongs. I want to win.
For this PKing and faceoff guru he's not even top 3 on the team in either so it's strange someone would defend him to this extent. It really seems as though you wouldn't be saying anything if your leafs hadnt drafted him.
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I'd like to see McDavid with more of a pure goal scorer then Lazar and Ritchie. Keep one on the line, but give him a pure sniper like Virtanen. Ritchie and Lazar play similar hard nosed, grind it out and go to the front of the net game. They don't compliment eachother very well.
In the game against russia Gauthier was much better thsn Dall Colle. He is a better skater and if people think Gauthier wont keep Dall Colle would be much worse
This isn't a best on best tournament. If he was a Florida or Tampa pick I would say the same thing. That 4th line is effective, I honestly don't get the issue other than you would prefer 4 scoring lines?
The swiss seemed to be very good at faceoffs. Reinhart got beat easily on several draws and Gauthier was also struggling after being dominant in the first two games
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Gauthier over MDC is a crime.
I feel like that move really plays into the USA's hands. Lot of speed/skill from the American forwards. It'll be interesting to see if Gauthier can keep up. I've never been that impressed with him but this is a good test. Same for Ritchie (although IMO Ritchie has a much much higher upside than Gauthier)
I feel like that move really plays into the USA's hands. Lot of speed/skill from the American forwards. It'll be interesting to see if Gauthier can keep up. I've never been that impressed with him but this is a good test. Same for Ritchie (although IMO Ritchie has a much much higher upside than Gauthier)
It should be a best on best tournament. It's the tournament for the best u20's in the world. Is that not a best on best? It is when compared to the u18 and the hlinka.
That 4th line could be more effective is all.
I just don't think Gauthier has contributed all that much and I just have a bad feeling that HC included him for other reasons Than him being the best player available.
Either way I'm tired of talking about him. I don't think he belongs and I hope his ice time is cut as the tournament progresses. Let him have his PK shifts and some d zone draws but let point, Paul, Petan or Fabbri play C for crouse and virtanen and you'll see more offensive out of that spot.
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