Tickets: 2013-2014 Individual Game Tickets for Sale II

[GordonGecko]

updated....

 

[Draft Guru]

The cheapest pair in the 200's on SH now is $130 each ($260 for pair), so my offer was more than fair and would have saved you money.

I really get a kick out of people I don't know somehow expecting a special "Deal" on tickets. If I can clear $X on SH, why would I be willing to sell to people I don't know for significantly less?

From the first page of the thread:

So tell everyone what you've got available. As always, please make sure you:

• List the Section and Row of the seats.
• List your asking price (Please keep all asking prices at or below face value + fees (paypal/TM/Box Office) & shipping costs, if applicable.)
• Remember to mark your tickets as sold once they are gone.
• Please do not over-post your tickets. Give others a chance to list theirs.

I've been on this site since the beginning, it's always been the policy on here to sell at around face value. We're all fans of the same team. Nobody's looking for a "deal" here. It's just a place to buy and sell without crazy markup - there's other sites for that.

 

[patnyrnyg]

While I understand where Cliffy1814 is coming from, I have to agree with Draft Guru. Since this thread started getting posted each year, the rules clearly stated face value and any fees you were charged. Face value being the price printed on the ticket. 2 years ago, when demand shot up, that rule stopped being enforced. In cliffy1914's defense, I do find it annoying that people on here just always expect to receive a discount or deal.

 

[phillyb]

any tickets available for 2/4 game against the avs?

 

[Rangers110]

From the first page of the thread:



I've been on this site since the beginning, it's always been the policy on here to sell at around face value. We're all fans of the same team. Nobody's looking for a "deal" here. It's just a place to buy and sell without crazy markup - there's other sites for that.

If this site is for face value only and stubhub and other sites are for crazy mark-ups.
Where does the seller and buyer go to get legitimate tickets at a fair price that is below Stubhub prices but with a reasonable mark-up depending upon the demand for a particular game. I have listed and sold many tickets for way less than face value and nobody has offered to give me face value to make it fair.
I only ask less than stubhub prices so I think that is fair to both sides.

 

[GordonGecko]

I don't think most people realize how much money season ticket holders lose on a significant number of games, often eating the whole ticket. They only see the handful of games with crazy prices and then turn into self appointed victims and cry robbery.

If you planed ahead, you would have found no shortage of people on this board willing to sell you tonight's game at face value if you had picked up another couple games against teams like the Sabres & Predators also at face value. But some people just feel entitled to getting all the benefits of being a STH with none of the risks

 

[Rangers110]

I don't think most people realize how much money season ticket holders lose on a significant number of games, often eating the whole ticket. They only see the handful of games with crazy prices and then turn into self appointed victims and cry robbery.

If you planed ahead, you would have found no shortage of people on this board willing to sell you tonight's game at face value if you had picked up another couple games against teams like the Sabres & Predators also at face value. But some people just feel entitled to getting all the benefits of being a STH with none of the risks

Well said !!!

 

[patnyrnyg]

I don't think most people realize how much money season ticket holders lose on a significant number of games often eating the whole ticket. They only see the handful of games with crazy prices and then turn into self appointed victims and cry robbery.

If you planed ahead, you would have found no shortage of people on this board willing to sell you tonight's game at face value if you had picked up another couple games against teams like the Sabres & Predators also at face value. But some people just feel entitled to getting all the benefits of being a STH with none of the risks

To play devil's advocate, why is that anyone else's concern? If that is the case, you and others need to re-consider if it is worth it to have season tickets. The rules say face value or below. Like I have said in the past, if you are losing money on Rangers tickets, you are REALLY doing something wrong.

 

[patnyrnyg]

If this site is for face value only and stubhub and other sites are for crazy mark-ups.
Where does the seller and buyer go to get legitimate tickets at a fair price that is below Stubhub prices but with a reasonable mark-up depending upon the demand for a particular game. I have listed and sold many tickets for way less than face value and nobody has offered to give me face value to make it fair.
I only ask less than stubhub prices so I think that is fair to both sides.

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit. The rules state face value or below. Why is that hard to understand? If you do not want to sell a game for face value, do not post it here. But again, hasn't really been enforced the past 3 seasons.

 

[GordonGecko]

To play devil's advocate, why is that anyone else's concern? If that is the case, you and others need to re-consider if it is worth it to have season tickets. The rules say face value or below. Like I have said in the past, if you are losing money on Rangers tickets, you are REALLY doing something wrong.

Sometimes I really wonder about your reading comprehension abilities

 

[McD27]

any tickets available for 2/4 game against the avs?

I have a pair in 213 row 5. $73 FV

Pm if interested

 

[patnyrnyg]

Sometimes I really wonder about your reading comprehension abilities

My reading comprehension skills are quite excellent. The point is, the rules state face value or below. They do not state, "face value or below, unless you lost money on another games. If you did, you can add that to the total of your asking price." On the other hand, maybe it does and I simply missed it? If so, feel free to point it out to me. And, feel free to point out where the content of my post demonstrates a sub-par reading comprehension ability.

 

[GordonGecko]

My reading comprehension skills are quite excellent. The point is, the rules state face value or below. They do not state, "face value or below, unless you lost money on another games. If you did, you can add that to the total of your asking price." On the other hand, maybe it does and I simply missed it? If so, feel free to point it out to me. And, feel free to point out where the content of my post demonstrates a sub-par reading comprehension ability.

Dude this whole conversation went right over your head. Guy came in here complaining about the price someone was asking for and it's being pointed out that season ticket holders lose money on other games and make it up on games like tonight. Nobody is ripping anybody off by selling at below market prices, weather or not the number is higher than the number printed on the ticket.

The bigger picture is that for all intents & purposes there isn't even a number on the ticket anymore. The Rangers use dynamic pricing now, so that the price of a seat goes up and down based on the game. This is 2014, we're not in the stone age anymore where a guy in a trench coat behind the garden is squeezing you for a price you have no idea is fair or not. This has become an efficient market, and there is a price that everyone knows. People here are offering below that price which is fair for both sides, and it has nothing to do with the number on the ticket which is by definition already invalid

 

[RUSF18]

You could also make the case that the post says "please keep seats at face value prices". Not that that they are required to be. I post on plenty of boards where posts offering tickets above face are simply not allowed, and the posts get deleted. If that is the intended policy here, they should state so and follow up in that way.

As a buyer, never a seller, I have no problem coming here and paying above face for a game I'm particularly dying to see (did so last year when I wanted to take my brother on his birthday) if it still means a discount on SH because of the fees. And I'd rather another Rangers fan save that fee as well.

And personally, I go to a few games a year thanks to a very generous friend of mine, so my desire to purchase tickets is pretty low. There are times when I'll be hanging out here, see people trying to desperately get rid of tickets, and only then will I say "hey it's really cheap, maybe I'll just go tonight for the hell of it" and honestly, I feel a little guilty about it. But on the other side of the coin, I have no problem with anyone who is trying to get every dollar they can.

 

[patnyrnyg]

Dude this whole conversation went right over your head. Guy came in here complaining about the price someone was asking for and it's being pointed out that season ticket holders lose money on other games and make it up on games like tonight. Nobody is ripping anybody off by selling at below market prices, weather or not the number is higher than the number printed on the ticket.

The bigger picture is that for all intents & purposes there isn't even a number on the ticket anymore. The Rangers use dynamic pricing now, so that the price of a seat goes up and down based on the game. This is 2014, we're not in the stone age anymore where a guy in a trench coat behind the garden is squeezing you for a price you have no idea is fair or not. This has become an efficient market, and there is a price that everyone knows. People here are offering below that price which is fair for both sides, and it has nothing to do with the number on the ticket which is by definition already invalid

There isn't a number on the ticket? Really? Then, why do my tickets ALL say, "$53"? Is that just for decoration? When I bought tickets on the bridge for the St. Louis game through the group sales/sth promotion, I paid $85. Guess what, it was PRINTED on the ticket. I am looking at ticketmaster right now, there are 2 available in 111 and 2 in 117. The cost for the pair in 111 is 223.55 (200+23.55 in fees). THAT is the face value for those tickets. The pair in 117 is 384.35. 357+27.35 fee. 384.35 is the FACE VALUE for that ticket.

Nothing went over my head. Rules state face value or below. People started posting asking for more and got away with it. Draft guru pointed it out when someone complained. I agree that it is annoying when people you don't know email asking for popular games and expect to get for FACE VALUE without taking some less popular games. You buy tickets to re-sell for a profit, great. I hope you and everyone else who does it makes a ton of money doing it. However, the intent of this thread was for FACE VALUE, which is the amount printed on the ticket.

Like I have said many times, in 15 years I have eaten 5 tickets total and NEVER sold one for less than face, and I sell more than I go to, unfortunately.

 

[Cliffy1814]

While I understand where Cliffy1814 is coming from, I have to agree with Draft Guru. Since this thread started getting posted each year, the rules clearly stated face value and any fees you were charged. Face value being the price printed on the ticket. 2 years ago, when demand shot up, that rule stopped being enforced. In cliffy1914's defense, I do find it annoying that people on here just always expect to receive a discount or deal.

Guys, I appreciate the thoughts on both sides. I certainly did not mean to start a firestorm.
I originally offered my tickets for tonight through the board because of some last minte change of plans and the fact I was driving and could not get them into SH at that minute. I didn't even give a price (I had no set price in mind), just asked people to PM me. The beauty of buying and selling on this board is avoiding the fees that are associated with the secondary market. Truly a WIn/Win for both sides. I offered a deal that would have been $40 less out of pocket for the buyer.
I am not a scalper, merely someone who is not independantly wealthy and needs to take advantage of a strong market when it exists.
If a buddy wanted to take his wife/son and asked me for tickets I sell for face I am not sure why there is an expectation out there that STH would sell seats for less
than market value to strangers, but that is obviously a strong sentiment.

Anyway, discussions like this merely disaude those of us who have seats from even bothering with the board. If you go through the last 30 pages of this thread you'll see numerous offerings for weeknight games against Nashville/Edmonton and very few for the games people want. This is likely the main reason why.
I will strictly adhere to the rules above and not even bother inquiring if my intent is to ask for more than the $53 value.
My apologies

 

[ltrangerfan]

Sold .

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

Anyone have tickets for tonight?.still in NY was thinking about going..

 

[Rangers110]

There isn't a number on the ticket? Really? Then, why do my tickets ALL say, "$53"? Is that just for decoration? When I bought tickets on the bridge for the St. Louis game through the group sales/sth promotion, I paid $85. Guess what, it was PRINTED on the ticket. I am looking at ticketmaster right now, there are 2 available in 111 and 2 in 117. The cost for the pair in 111 is 223.55 (200+23.55 in fees). THAT is the face value for those tickets. The pair in 117 is 384.35. 357+27.35 fee. 384.35 is the FACE VALUE for that ticket.

Nothing went over my head. Rules state face value or below. People started posting asking for more and got away with it. Draft guru pointed it out when someone complained. I agree that it is annoying when people you don't know email asking for popular games and expect to get for FACE VALUE without taking some less popular games. You buy tickets to re-sell for a profit, great. I hope you and everyone else who does it makes a ton of money doing it. However, the intent of this thread was for FACE VALUE, which is the amount printed on the ticket. Like I have said many times, in 15 years I have eaten 5 tickets total and NEVER sold one for less than face, and I sell more than I go to, unfortunately.

You are fortunate to have tickets in a price range that enable you to sell them for face value because they are already at the low end of the price range. More seats than not are priced much higher than yours and are tougher to get even face value for any out of conference game and this year there are 14 of them. I think the bigger picture is whether the market for selling tickets have changed since the rule was made to sell for face value or less. Back when the rules were first made I'm sure you could sell most games for face value. Rules and laws do change over time to adapt to current times. I'm not sure whether this would apply here but I think it should. Nobody should be looking to make a killing on tickets on this site. I think most people that do sell particular games for over face value still price them below the secondary market.

I'm sure who has the ultimate say but I would like to see some modification to the rules that allow for tickets to be sold for above face but less than the secondary market.

 

[patnyrnyg]

You are fortunate to have tickets in a price range that enable you to sell them for face value because they are already at the low end of the price range. More seats than not are priced much higher than yours and are tougher to get even face value for any out of conference game and this year there are 14 of them. I think the bigger picture is whether the market for selling tickets have changed since the rule was made to sell for face value or less. Back when the rules were first made I'm sure you could sell most games for face value. Rules and laws do change over time to adapt to current times. I'm not sure whether this would apply here but I think it should. Nobody should be looking to make a killing on tickets on this site. I think most people that do sell particular games for over face value still price them below the secondary market.

I'm sure who has the ultimate say but I would like to see some modification to the rules that allow for tickets to be sold for above face but less than the secondary market.

I know that, and that is why I would not consider buying more expensive tickets. Well, maybe the $56's which are the upper center-ice. However, anyone spending more better be prepared to go to most of the less popular games. But I do recall reading over the summer that my seats would be worthless, because the bridge was going to obstruct our view. Yeah, you guys knew what you were talking about.

You have it backwards, the law was changed to ALLOW you to sell for more than face, which is what allowed sites like Stubhub to flourish. Beforehand, you would see people post on EBay that they were selling a sheet of loose-leaf for $500 and if you bought it, you would get a FREE pair of tickets.

As far as the rule on here, if it is not enforced it really doesn't matter. I agree about not making a killing on this site. However, it seems like we have sellers looking to make a killing on the popular games and buyers always looking for discounts. As far as your idea for changing the rule, that would require a mod to follow the secondary market. What source do you use? Now, let's say the cheapest on stubhub in my price range is $85 each for a given game. If I post saying I want $84, am I ok? If someone else then posts on stubhub selling for $75, does my post get deleted? Just do not think it is really practical to implement. Of course, if you want to make a few dollars, post on stubhub and set your price at the cheapest in your price range. I know, I know, after fees yada yada yada. Well, is it still going to get you more than selling on here for face? If so, quit complaining. If not, then sell on here for face.

 

[ltrangerfan]

I know that, and that is why I would not consider buying more expensive tickets. Well, maybe the $56's which are the upper center-ice. However, anyone spending more better be prepared to go to most of the less popular games. But I do recall reading over the summer that my seats would be worthless, because the bridge was going to obstruct our view. Yeah, you guys knew what you were talking about.

You have it backwards, the law was changed to ALLOW you to sell for more than face, which is what allowed sites like Stubhub to flourish. Beforehand, you would see people post on EBay that they were selling a sheet of loose-leaf for $500 and if you bought it, you would get a FREE pair of tickets.

As far as the rule on here, if it is not enforced it really doesn't matter. I agree about not making a killing on this site. However, it seems like we have sellers looking to make a killing on the popular games and buyers always looking for discounts. As far as your idea for changing the rule, that would require a mod to follow the secondary market. What source do you use? Now, let's say the cheapest on stubhub in my price range is $85 each for a given game. If I post saying I want $84, am I ok? If someone else then posts on stubhub selling for $75, does my post get deleted? Just do not think it is really practical to implement. Of course, if you want to make a few dollars, post on stubhub and set your price at the cheapest in your price range. I know, I know, after fees yada yada yada. Well, is it still going to get you more than selling on here for face? If so, quit complaining. If not, then sell on here for face.

Changing the rules? After awhile you might have every tix broker listing their games on this site . While it might be a good idea as you say it's impossible to police.

RE reselling: I will attend approx 6 regular season games this yr and sell the rest. I have sold some less popular games below face and some of the more popular above. It evens out in my $100 / tix range so there is a market for some slightly higher priced seats.

The future is the issue. With metrics for what each seat is worth, MSG will continue to raise prices on any seats where a reselling profit margin exists. If you are easily able to sell seats at a profit then MSG is slightly behind in catching up to your location. Rest assured they will find the cracks.

 

[Blueshirt Special]

Status quo

I like the way things work on HF.

I list tickets for face and less, but I also hint that other games could be had for more and to inquire via PM.

Buying a season ticket package in the hopes that you will make money or break even just by using HF is a seriously flawed strategy, and I doubt many use it that way.but it is a good place to dump tickets you are not going to use. I've sold tickets here for half price at times and it beats letting them die on the vine.

 

[srsly989]

Guys stop arguing

 

[eKardz]

Section 208 row 4

2 tickets to Avalanche and Edmonton

Face value with paypal fees is 160 a pair.

Pm me if interested. Will email from season ticket holder account.

 

[NYRangers88]

For Sale:

2 seats in Section 208 Row 15 for the Avalanche game this Tuesday.
$53.00 each + paypal.

Please PM!

Still available - Will take best offer, need to sell ASAP