2013-14 Point Predictions

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Im not a true Islander fan but I would have to say this is my 2nd favorite team. I think this season is when they will establish themselves as a true competitive team in the East.

Im interrested to know what everyone expects from the players points and games played wise. Im sure PM Bouchard will get injured and then Strome will likely step in. Will JT finally get over a point per game? How many points will everyone get?
 
Will JT finally get over a point per game?

81 points in 82 games then 47 in 48 last year. Finally? it'll be shattered then people will have to find something else to say. (not directing any angst against you...)
 
i think we have a better team to begin the year with, but will probably see more man-games-lost.

maybe 85 pts?
 
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I see JT putting up something like 37-38-75.

However, I also see guys like Bailey and Okposo finally sniffing 50 point land. Keys to success up front will be due in large part to secondary scoring.

I also think we'll get 40+ from both Bouchard and Nielsen, with guys like Cizikas and Martin upping their ante a wee bit, but at the same time, I've just got that feeling that Moulson's gonna drop a bit - maybe a good bit, especially if we find Bailey and Bouchard put out there with JT.

I'm really curious to see what contributions Clutterbuck and Regin can make. Under the right circumstances, both can make healthy contributions.

What I do assume is that Visnovsky will get double digits in goals and approach the 40 point mark. Time for both Hamonic and MacDonald to chip in a bit more. Anything less than 25-30 points from both will be disappointment in light of what we need to get from them, unless of course guys like Hickey and Donovan produce in a manner not yet foreseeable.

I don't see McDonald getting the ice time to duplicate the pace he was on last season. Gotta wonder what Nelson can contribute, should he be able to stick and take a fairly regular shift.
 
Tavares- 45g 48a 93pts
moulson- 33g 37a 70pts
okposo- 23g 29a52pts
nielsen-15g 36 a51p
grabner- 28g 22a 50 pts

bailey- 19g 21 a -40pts
visnovsky- 12g 22a-34pts
hamonic- 7g-23 a-30pts
clutterbuck- 12g -15a 27pts
cizkas 11g 15 a-26pts
macdonald- 4g 17 a-21 pts
mcdonald 9g-11a-20pts
martin 10g 10 a -20pts
hickey- 5g-10 a- 15 pts
Bolton 3g-2 a 5pts


P Bouchard Idk any where in between 45-50 IF healthy...i dont know much about him honestly
 
I see JT putting up something like 37-38-75.

However, I also see guys like Bailey and Okposo finally sniffing 50 point land. Keys to success up front will be due in large part to secondary scoring.

I also think we'll get 40+ from both Bouchard and Nielsen, with guys like Cizikas and Martin upping their ante a wee bit, but at the same time, I've just got that feeling that Moulson's gonna drop a bit - maybe a good bit, especially if we find Bailey and Bouchard put out there with JT.

I'm really curious to see what contributions Clutterbuck and Regin can make. Under the right circumstances, both can make healthy contributions.

What I do assume is that Visnovsky will get double digits in goals and approach the 40 point mark. Time for both Hamonic and MacDonald to chip in a bit more. Anything less than 25-30 points from both will be disappointment in light of what we need to get from them, unless of course guys like Hickey and Donovan produce in a manner not yet foreseeable.

I don't see McDonald getting the ice time to duplicate the pace he was on last season. Gotta wonder what Nelson can contribute, should he be able to stick and take a fairly regular shift.

So you see Tavares significantly regressing in a statistical sense? And by that I mean several less points? To each their own I suppose
 
Tavares- 45g 48a 93pts
moulson- 33g 37a 70pts
okposo- 23g 29a52pts
nielsen-15g 36 a51p
grabner- 28g 22a 50 pts

bailey- 19g 21 a -40pts
visnovsky- 12g 22a-34pts
hamonic- 7g-23 a-30pts
clutterbuck- 12g -15a 27pts
cizkas 11g 15 a-26pts
macdonald- 4g 17 a-21 pts
mcdonald 9g-11a-20pts
martin 10g 10 a -20pts
hickey- 5g-10 a- 15 pts
Bolton 3g-2 a 5pts


P Bouchard Idk any where in between 45-50 IF healthy...i dont know much about him honestly

These seem pretty good...

I think Cizikas, Moulson, Boulton and Hamonic will all have less points than you suggest, and I'd bet Donovan to have ~3g and ~10a if he's on the big club; possibly more depending on PP time.
 
Much of it will have to do with the second unit, because if they can stay productive other clubs will have to respect them with equal defensive respect, which means less against Tavares.

I think this really could fall either way, particularly if the Isles decide to work on improving their GA this season and try to reign in the scoring units either as a 2-3 or 1-2-2. If they just repeat last seasonI could see a modest rise that puts him over the PPG barrier by about 5 to 10 pts. If they go real conservative, between 70 and 80.
 
Tavares- 45g 48a 93pts
moulson- 33g 37a 70pts
okposo- 23g 29a52pts
nielsen-15g 36 a51p
grabner- 28g 22a 50 pts

bailey- 19g 21 a -40pts
visnovsky- 12g 22a-34pts
hamonic- 7g-23 a-30pts
clutterbuck- 12g -15a 27pts
cizkas 11g 15 a-26pts
macdonald- 4g 17 a-21 pts
mcdonald 9g-11a-20pts
martin 10g 10 a -20pts
hickey- 5g-10 a- 15 pts
Bolton 3g-2 a 5pts


P Bouchard Idk any where in between 45-50 IF healthy...i dont know much about him honestly

with better linemates, who knows? but it would be quite a jump in grabner's assist numbers.
 
I think Cizikas, Moulson, Boulton and Hamonic will all have less points than you suggest

Moulson had 69 two years ago and almost a ppg last season (44 in 47) with a 9.7 shooting%, way below his 13.7% career avg. If he stays on the top line, 70 again easy, 80 possible with JT's continued emergence. If not, he'll have something to prove.

Zeeker had 19 pts in 51 games incl playoffs and got better each week. 30 points expected, 35/40 possible. Love this kid's upside.
 
Moulson had 69 two years ago and almost a ppg last season (44 in 47) with a 9.7 shooting%, way below his 13.7% career avg. If he stays on the top line, 70 again easy, 80 possible with JT's continued emergence. If not, he'll have something to prove.

Zeeker had 19 pts in 51 games incl playoffs and got better each week. 30 points expected, 35/40 possible. Love this kid's upside.

agreed. seems like a lot of people don't think much of his offensive game, but i expect more. this kid is a warrior...
 
Tavares: 44-48-92
Moulson: 24-32-56
Bailey: 20-38-58
Nielsen: 10-34-44
Okposo: 21-30-51
Bouchard: 14-24-38
Nelson: 10-14-24
Grabner: 26-17-43
Clutterbuck: 16-19-35
Cizikas: 10-18-28
MacDonald: 12-13-25
Martin: 8-9-17

Hamonic: 9-26-35
MacDonald: 4-17-23
Visnovsky: 9-32-41
Donovan: 7-20-27
Hickey: 2-14-16
Strait: 3-12-15

I think RW is going to rotate like crazy.
 
So you see Tavares significantly regressing in a statistical sense? And by that I mean several less points? To each their own I suppose

I think that if JT is in 90+ land, then he may be one of the only guys scoring. Sure, at least one linemate will be doing nicely if he is in that region, but for him to get that production, it'll mean that he's getting such an enormous amount of ice time, that there's likely little coming in the sense of second hand scoring.

This said, I think we saw how good this team can be when that 1st line isn't necessarily clicking on all cylinders, but continually watched by the opposition's top defensive units, allowing primarily the Nielsen line to contribute. Throw in the nice little contributions that a combination of Grabner-Cizikas-Martin-McDonald were able to make and that full responsibility onus was no longer solely placed on the JT line.

What you rarely have is a first line with a 90 point, a 75 point and a 60 point guy in a situation where 4-6 more forwards are also chipping in 40+ points. We know what we think everyone is capable of under the right circumstances, but there's rarely the ice time necessary for ALL guys to be producing what they're capable of at the same time. For example, if Tavares is getting 90 points and say Cizikas gets around 30, then that probably means that Nielsen will only be hovering around 25-30 himself, as the ice time for the other two to get those stats - of which both are likely capable over 80+ games - has certainly infringed upon Nielsen's ice time and prime scoring situations.

Anything can ultimately happen, but this is generally what my experience tells me.

In the post above I did not mention what possibilities Grabner has. Basically, I see him as little more than an 'Ace in the hole' type of player. Incredibly incomplete, but a guy who will bite every now and again because he simply has the wheels to catch guys sleeping and a pokecheck that will take advantage of several players throughout a season. He'll get his 40+ breakaways over the course of 82 games. He may pot 15-20 of them, he may only pot 5, but he will get the opportunities. He does well shorthanded, so that keeps him from being too one dimensional, but otherwise he's lacking considerably in the all-round and physical department, even if he does have 10-15 brilliant passes in the course of a season. Thus, he's the statistical wildcard. Whereas it's easy for Cappy to cut his ice time when the going gets tough, Grabs'll get the opportunities necessary to be a 30+ goal guy. Unfortunately, he has the hands to only wind up with 10-15 instead.

Depending on what roles Regin and Clutterbuck etch out for themselves, Grabner could be anything from a 12-8-20 to a 30-20-50 guy.
 
I think that if JT is in 90+ land, then he may be one of the only guys scoring. Sure, at least one linemate will be doing nicely if he is in that region, but for him to get that production, it'll mean that he's getting such an enormous amount of ice time, that there's likely little coming in the sense of second hand scoring.

This said, I think we saw how good this team can be when that 1st line isn't necessarily clicking on all cylinders, but continually watched by the opposition's top defensive units, allowing primarily the Nielsen line to contribute. Throw in the nice little contributions that a combination of Grabner-Cizikas-Martin-McDonald were able to make and that full responsibility onus was no longer solely placed on the JT line.

What you rarely have is a first line with a 90 point, a 75 point and a 60 point guy in a situation where 4-6 more forwards are also chipping in 40+ points. We know what we think everyone is capable of under the right circumstances, but there's rarely the ice time necessary for ALL guys to be producing what they're capable of at the same time. For example, if Tavares is getting 90 points and say Cizikas gets around 30, then that probably means that Nielsen will only be hovering around 25-30 himself, as the ice time for the other two to get those stats - of which both are likely capable over 80+ games - has certainly infringed upon Nielsen's ice time and prime scoring situations.

Anything can ultimately happen, but this is generally what my experience tells me.

In the post above I did not mention what possibilities Grabner has. Basically, I see him as little more than an 'Ace in the hole' type of player. Incredibly incomplete, but a guy who will bite every now and again because he simply has the wheels to catch guys sleeping and a pokecheck that will take advantage of several players throughout a season. He'll get his 40+ breakaways over the course of 82 games. He may pot 15-20 of them, he may only pot 5, but he will get the opportunities. He does well shorthanded, so that keeps him from being too one dimensional, but otherwise he's lacking considerably in the all-round and physical department, even if he does have 10-15 brilliant passes in the course of a season. Thus, he's the statistical wildcard. Whereas it's easy for Cappy to cut his ice time when the going gets tough, Grabs'll get the opportunities necessary to be a 30+ goal guy. Unfortunately, he has the hands to only wind up with 10-15 instead.

Depending on what roles Regin and Clutterbuck etch out for themselves, Grabner could be anything from a 12-8-20 to a 30-20-50 guy.

Cappy better not cut his icetime.....he thrives with LITTLE icetime. I can, however, see him improve his shooting this summer and be just a splendid little cog. If he improves his PK and defensive game, even better. He does not have size but will keep a check.

I can see him one day scoring 40 goals.....but count on 20-25.
 
I think that if JT is in 90+ land, then he may be one of the only guys scoring. Sure, at least one linemate will be doing nicely if he is in that region, but for him to get that production, it'll mean that he's getting such an enormous amount of ice time, that there's likely little coming in the sense of second hand scoring.

This said, I think we saw how good this team can be when that 1st line isn't necessarily clicking on all cylinders, but continually watched by the opposition's top defensive units, allowing primarily the Nielsen line to contribute. Throw in the nice little contributions that a combination of Grabner-Cizikas-Martin-McDonald were able to make and that full responsibility onus was no longer solely placed on the JT line.

What you rarely have is a first line with a 90 point, a 75 point and a 60 point guy in a situation where 4-6 more forwards are also chipping in 40+ points. We know what we think everyone is capable of under the right circumstances, but there's rarely the ice time necessary for ALL guys to be producing what they're capable of at the same time. For example, if Tavares is getting 90 points and say Cizikas gets around 30, then that probably means that Nielsen will only be hovering around 25-30 himself, as the ice time for the other two to get those stats - of which both are likely capable over 80+ games - has certainly infringed upon Nielsen's ice time and prime scoring situations.

Anything can ultimately happen, but this is generally what my experience tells me.

In the post above I did not mention what possibilities Grabner has. Basically, I see him as little more than an 'Ace in the hole' type of player. Incredibly incomplete, but a guy who will bite every now and again because he simply has the wheels to catch guys sleeping and a pokecheck that will take advantage of several players throughout a season. He'll get his 40+ breakaways over the course of 82 games. He may pot 15-20 of them, he may only pot 5, but he will get the opportunities. He does well shorthanded, so that keeps him from being too one dimensional, but otherwise he's lacking considerably in the all-round and physical department, even if he does have 10-15 brilliant passes in the course of a season. Thus, he's the statistical wildcard. Whereas it's easy for Cappy to cut his ice time when the going gets tough, Grabs'll get the opportunities necessary to be a 30+ goal guy. Unfortunately, he has the hands to only wind up with 10-15 instead.

Depending on what roles Regin and Clutterbuck etch out for themselves, Grabner could be anything from a 12-8-20 to a 30-20-50 guy.


I agree with this, but i dont think its impossible. I can easily see jt score at least 90 pts and moulson 60-70 pts. if guys like okie, nielsen, grabner, bailey, etc get to the 40-50 pt mark we're going to have a really good team.
 
Cappy better not cut his icetime.....he thrives with LITTLE icetime.

Yes, you're right about that. I should have written something more to the effect of "Sure, it's been easy for Cappy to still get decent to good returns from Grabner with little ice time, under which he actually tends to do better."

I thoroughly believe that those sprints take a lot out of him and he simply can't give as much gas as some other guys who are skating in a more moderate, controlled speed.
 
Tavares: 44-48-92
Moulson: 24-32-56
Bailey: 20-38-58
Nielsen: 10-34-44
Okposo: 21-30-51
Bouchard: 14-24-38
Nelson: 10-14-24
Grabner: 26-17-43
Clutterbuck: 16-19-35
Cizikas: 10-18-28
MacDonald: 12-13-25
Martin: 8-9-17

Hamonic: 9-26-35
MacDonald: 4-17-23
Visnovsky: 9-32-41
Donovan: 7-20-27
Hickey: 2-14-16
Strait: 3-12-15

I think RW is going to rotate like crazy.
I think Strait will have more points than Hickey due to the fact that he will get twice as much ice time. I see Hickey being the healthy scratch much of the season unless there are injuries. I think third pairing is going to rotate like crazy between Carkner, Hickey, Donovan, and Finley.
 
Tavares: 39-44-83
Moulson: 29-31-60
Bailey: 21-33-54
Nielsen: 12-35-47
Okposo: 21-35-56
Bouchard: 15-25-40
Nelson: 9-17-26
Grabner: 27-16-43
Clutterbuck: 14-18-32
Cizikas: 11-18-29
McDonald: 7-10-17
Martin: 12-11-23

Hamonic: 11-30-41
MacDonald: 5-21-26
Visnovsky: 8-30-38
Donovan: 4-15-19
Hickey: 1-10-11
Strait: 4-16-20
Carkner: 0-6-6
 
Tavares: 39-44-83
Moulson: 29-31-60
Bailey: 21-33-54
Nielsen: 12-35-47
Okposo: 21-35-56
Bouchard: 15-25-40
Nelson: 9-17-26
Grabner: 27-16-43
Clutterbuck: 14-18-32
Cizikas: 11-18-29
McDonald: 7-10-17
Martin: 12-11-23

Hamonic: 11-30-41
MacDonald: 5-21-26
Visnovsky: 8-30-38
Donovan: 4-15-19
Hickey: 1-10-11
Strait: 4-16-20
Carkner: 0-6-6

Solid numbers (i see what you did there with JT).

Just a few tweaks:

Moulson will have more assists.
Cizikas > than 30 points.
Way off on McDonald. Was on pace for 30 just getting acclimated, got better as the season went on.
Hamonic too optimistic but I hope you're right. (3G 7A in 48 games...)
Hickey - expect more.
 
Tavares: 39-44-83
Moulson: 29-31-60
Bailey: 21-33-54
Nielsen: 12-35-47
Okposo: 21-35-56
Bouchard: 15-25-40
Nelson: 9-17-26
Grabner: 27-16-43
Clutterbuck: 14-18-32
Cizikas: 11-18-29
McDonald: 7-10-17
Martin: 12-11-23

Hamonic: 11-30-41
MacDonald: 5-21-26
Visnovsky: 8-30-38
Donovan: 4-15-19
Hickey: 1-10-11
Strait: 4-16-20
Carkner: 0-6-6

I like these numbers, seems somewhat reasonable. Though Hamonic out scoring Visnovsky probably won't happen. Though, with the new contract, and being invited to Canada's Olympic tryouts will probably be a HUGE boost to Hamonic's confidence, even though he probably won't make the team. This could be Hammer's breakout season.

Gonna add one more guy to that stats predictions. This is for you Bluechip Bonzo. My prediction is that the Isles sign Kirill Petrov after his KHL season ends and he plays 6 games with the Isles.

2013-14 Kirill Petrov 6 gp 1 goal 1 assist 2 points 6 PIMs
 
I like these numbers, seems somewhat reasonable. Though Hamonic out scoring Visnovsky probably won't happen. Though, with the new contract, and being invited to Canada's Olympic tryouts will probably be a HUGE boost to Hamonic's confidence, even though he probably won't make the team. This could be Hammer's breakout season.

Gonna add one more guy to that stats predictions. This is for you Bluechip Bonzo. My prediction is that the Isles sign Kirill Petrov after his KHL season ends and he plays 6 games with the Isles.

2013-14 Kirill Petrov 6 gp 1 goal 1 assist 2 points 6 PIMs
I Predict Kirill Petrov bolts Russia and signs his first pro contract, going 12-8 pitching for the Guadalupe Manchegos after giving up hockey due to a truckload of mysterious fanmail scares him into hiding.:cry:
 
All my predictions will be based off assuming each player gets 82 games.

Grouped based on my projected lines

Tavares: 41-47-88
Moulson: 33-31-64
PMB: 17-46-63

Nielsen: 16-34-50
Bailey: 21-26-47
Okposo: 20-31-51

Nelson: 12-27-39
Grabner: 25-17-42
Clutterbuck: 15-21-36

Cizikas: 10-19-29
Martin: 10-15-25
McDonald: 10-13-23

Hamonic: 6-22-28
Macdonald: 5-24-29

Visnovsky: 9-32-41
Carkner: 2-8-10

Hickey: 4-16-20
Donovan: 6-28-34

Now I pray to God we add a defenseman cause Carkner in the top 4 is awful and Strait sucks too.

That's 262 goals, about 3.2 per game. That's a lofty number even though I think we have one of the better offenses in the East. This is assuming everyone plays 82 games which is an unreachable ideal> There will be games Boulton plays, where guys are banged up and can't go, and maybe some long term injuries to some of these guys, so I expect the overall GPG to drop to about 2.95, or between 240-245 goals ,still a very good number.
 

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