Agreed completely. UFA signings rarely, if ever, have that drive that the homegrown players seem to have. Bring a kid up through the ranks and show your faith in him, and he'll play his ass off for you as long as he can. Hard to find with hired guns. Not to mention the impact it can have on building cohesion and chemistry in the organization.
Prospect Info: 2012-2013 Hartford Wolf Pack/Greenville Road Warriors Thread (AHL, ECHL) *Part III*
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Agreed completely. UFA signings rarely, if ever, have that drive that the homegrown players seem to have. Bring a kid up through the ranks and show your faith in him, and he'll play his ass off for you as long as he can. Hard to find with hired guns. Not to mention the impact it can have on building cohesion and chemistry in the organization.
Bluenote13
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How many FA's have we seen in the last 14 years? How do they do their first season? Always takes time for every FA to get acclimated, sometimes a full season, sometimes they never get it.
Yet every player we trade has an immediate impact on that teams lineup
you want to know the EXACT incident that lead to that pick...November 19, 1998. That was the night that matt johnson suckerpunched jeff beukeboom. and to this day, 14+ years later the franchise has yet to find a suitable replacement and we've been missing THAT kind of defensemen for 14 years.
wise pick or not...mcilrath was picked to be the guy that finally gives us that kind of dman back.
Bluenote13
Believe In Henke
How many teams have a Beukeboom in the last ten years? Probably half a dozen.
Still have not replaced :
Leetch
Graves
Messier
Larmer
Nemchinov
Kovalev
Mctavish
Keenan
Agree or disagree, your one of my favorite posters. Lots of inside stuff. Keep smiling Dagoon.
Not simply because you made reference, but more because you make an excellent point. If and I mean IF, Dylan evolves into a poor man's Chara, I'd take him as a career Ranger. No hesitation.
The whole Bruins back line is tough to play against. Starting w/ Chara. That's what will make them a contender for years to come. We lack that element and we need it badly. McDonagh referenced it just the other day. Meanness. As in the Rangers got none of it back there.
NYR Viper
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Yep, it's lacking throughout the line-up actually. Not just on the back-end.
Hoping He and Noreau work out. Also hoping Mashinter can stick for a long while. He has looked good on the 4th line. Good hands, not overly fast but knows his role is to work the puck down low and create chances with his size. Like that addition.
NYR Viper
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Great news for everyone involved. Not only will they help the Whale but it improves the Rangers depth.
Bluenote13
Believe In Henke
Name one team Beuk played on that didn't have toughness upfront as well as ANOTHER tough Dman on the back end?
One season. 1995, the lockout year. The NY hangover shortened season(that year we were shorthanded more times than any team, and still managed to score the fewest SH goals in the league!) where we were lucky to survive a future talent dynasty in Quebec, then got obliterated against the bigger, deeper Flyers team.
One season. 1995, the lockout year. The NY hangover shortened season(that year we were shorthanded more times than any team, and still managed to score the fewest SH goals in the league!) where we were lucky to survive a future talent dynasty in Quebec, then got obliterated against the bigger, deeper Flyers team.
Beacon
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Honestly, I love the fact that when someone cheap shots our player, McIlrath punishes that guy. Not because I particularly like fighting, but because it allows our players to have more space and be less fearful.
Imagine you are Thomas or Bourque (or St. Croix next year). You have skill, you have speed, but every time you on on the ice, someone is trying to intimidate you so that instead of focusing on making the play, you are focusing on not getting a concussion. Now imagine that every time someone harasses you, there's a guy who will knock their lights out in your defense. Suddenly, you can focus on skating and shooting.
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Who did the Rangers have in 1993-94? Kocur? He was just an enforcer. Kypreos, the punching bag who lost every one of his fights until he was knocked out by Vandenbussche and had to retire? Tikkanen was not tough, he was more chippie. Graves was not a fighter, he was tough because he was willing to take the punishment as the garbageman, but didn't intimidate opponents. Messier was the closest thing we had to a tough guy with skill, but he only fought to change the momentum of the game, not to defend others.
Beacon
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Bluenote is regular letters, mine in bold.
Leetch - MDZ is supposed to be our offensive defenseman. Not as good, but it's something.
Graves - Callahan
Messier - Brad is a competent first line center. Not identical in what he brings, but he is a first line center.
Larmer - Stepan is a good two way player who produces more offense for us than Larmer did in a higher scoring era.
Nemchinov - Boyle
Kovalev - Nash is the stick wizard for us and a better player than Kovalev.
Mctavish - Hopefully Lindberg provides the face-off ability of MacTavish. BTW, it's Mac, not Mc.
Beacon
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He was doing really well in the ECHL. His mid-January, his GAA is 2.00 and his SV% is an insane .942. He's been the hottest player in the ECHL over the last 6 weeks.
But who's going down to the ECHL? Talbot has been great and Miss has been acceptable, though I guess the hope is that Stajcer can be better than acceptable.
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Do you remember when for over half a year leading up to his signing, I was obsessively arguing against it, saying that we aren't ready to contend in 2011-12 and he'll be an albatross on the team long term? I was told that I'm not a psychic and that I shouldn't be predicting that around the age of 33 (when players generally start to get worse), he'll no longer be worth the money?
I was told that we need to go for it now because Lundqvist is getting older. Well, he's still getting older, still without the Cup.
Had we not signed Brad, we could've outbid for Parise and Suter.
Parise - Stepan - Gabby
Hagelin - Anisimov - Callahan
Kreider - Miller - Pyatt
Asham - Powe - Boyle
Staal - Suter
McDonagh - Girardi
MDZ - Stralman
Even if we didn't sign Suter and Parise, going with Nash instead, we would have more than enough cap space to sign or acquire a younger center.
The good news is that we can buy him out this or next summer. I'd probably keep him one more year, then send him packing.
NYR Viper
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Beacon
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That might cost him his AHL job. I'd love to see Stajcer get into a game or two to see what he's got.
with the way the Rangers select goalies besides Lundqvist, any chance the Rangers make a trade with a team that has depth with quality goaltending prospects that has potential??
Of those:
C: 4 (5 if you count Lindberg)
RW: 2
LW: 1
LD: 1
RD: 1
G: 1
That's a lot of c's. Those assets must be burning a hole in Sather's pocket.
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