2012-13 World Junior Championships Draft Scoring

[Soli]

I'm not sure how to count the Sweden win. Lassinanti was in for 65 minutes but Lundstrom took over in the shootout.

At any rate, HUGE game by Rielly and Scheifele tonight. All my Finns got blanked, but I'm still ahead with 20 points. Woot!

 

[Cerebral]

I'm not sure how to count the Sweden win. Lassinanti was in for 65 minutes but Lundstrom took over in the shootout.

At any rate, HUGE game by Rielly and Scheifele tonight. All my Finns got blanked, but I'm still ahead with 20 points. Woot!

I don't think you get any points for Lassinanti then although we'll have to wait for the official scoring. I would assume Lundstrom would get the win in the shootout although he's not currently getting credit for a win either.

 

[Soli]

I don't think you get any points for Lassinanti then although we'll have to wait for the official scoring. I would assume Lundstrom would get the win in the shootout although he's not currently getting credit for a win either.

Gibson didn't finish his game (USA 8-0 vs. Germany) but he still gets credit for the win, no?

Sorry to throw a live one at you there, SK13... hehe.

Lassinanti didn't lose the game and "finished" the 65 minutes game. We all know the shootout is a theatrical endeavor. That's why goals don't count when scored in them.

I think I should be given the points after the Rielly mishap.

 

[40oz]

Yeah I'm in the same boat for the other pool with Lassinantti. It's BS.
TSN is giving Lassinantti the win though.
Really, if Lassinantti doesnt get any points for playing 65 min, Gibson shouldnt get any for playing 40.

 

[Cerebral]

Gibson didn't finish his game (USA 8-0 vs. Germany) but he still gets credit for the win, no?

Sorry to throw a live one at you there, SK13... hehe.

Lassinanti didn't lose the game and "finished" the 65 minutes game. We all know the shootout is a theatrical endeavor. That's why goals don't count when scored in them.

I think I should be given the points after the Rielly mishap.

Goals don't count in the shootout but given that the game was a tie heading into the shootout, I just can't see any way Lassinanti would get credit for the win.

Gibson got credit for the win because he was the "goalie of record" when he left the game with the lead (similar to baseball with a starting pitcher). I would assume Lundstrom will get the win but who knows.

 

[Soli]

Goals don't count in the shootout but given that the game was a tie heading into the shootout, I just can't see any way Lassinanti would get credit for the win.

Gibson got credit for the win because he was the "goalie of record" when he left the game with the lead (similar to baseball with a starting pitcher). I would assume Lundstrom will get the win but who knows.

In this scenario, I would have benefitted more from Lassinanti giving up a goal in OT (gaining 1 point via OT/SO loss).

That's backwards. I should get at very least 1 point from Lassinanti. I'm still pushing for 2 because as the goalie of record, he didn't lose the game for Sweden, played a full 65 minute game, and Sweden won with him as goalie of record.

 

[lakai17]

Jaskin and the Czech's should tear it up now.

 

[eS7]

Lassinanti got credit in our pool haha. I agree that he deserves the win.

 

[SK13]

TSN credits Lassinanti with the win, but I'm not sure if that means the IIHF does (the IIHF site is awful). With how iffy everything is in the IIHF, it's kind of difficult to go off book because that creates a huge degree of subjectivity.

I say we just always go with their ruling, however wrong.

 

[Soli]

I'm not seeing a win column for goalie statistics on the IIHF site. Am I blind?

 

[lakai17]

did everyone send Cerebral the 5 g's we agreed on?

 

[SK13]

I'm not seeing a win column for goalie statistics on the IIHF site. Am I blind?

I don't know. Where is the damned win collumn on the IIHF site? I can't even find it.

All I know is that he's credited with 2 wins on TSN's tracker right now:

http://www.tsn.ca/world_jrs/statistics/?show=goalie

did everyone send Cerebral the 5 g's we agreed on?

?

 

[I am the Liquor]

http://stats.worldjunior2013.com/Hydra/306/IHM3060SWE_83_2_0.pdf

Bottom right hand corner.

If the team isnt ahead when the goalie leaves, I dont see how he gets credit for a win. I think Cerebral is correct.

 

[Soli]

http://stats.worldjunior2013.com/Hydra/306/IHM3060SWE_83_2_0.pdf

Bottom right hand corner.

If the team isnt ahead when the goalie leaves, I dont see how he gets credit for a win. I think Cerebral is correct.

Ah hah! I am blind...

I am just getting screwed left right and center. I still maintain I should get at minimum 1 point, if not 2.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Ah hah! I am blind...

I am just getting screwed left right and center. I still maintain I should get at minimum 1 point, if not 2.

If you are going to serve up more comments like that I will have to hit you with fast ball of a response

 

[Jumptheshark]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-25-funniest-autocorrects-of-2012

for your amusement

 

[nexttothemoon]

I'm not in the pool (so why am I here butting in and putting in my 2 cents?... because I ****ing want to that's why. )... but just some friendly advice from past pools I've been in... just count the disputed goalies points and put an asterisk beside it. Usually in a pool it's not even a problem when the final point count is done so it's not worth arguing over now... if it does produce a difference in the standings... there are usually better final stats at the end of the tournament anyway.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I'm not in the pool (so why am I here butting in and putting in my 2 cents?... because I ****ing want to that's why. )... but just some friendly advice from past pools I've been in... just count the disputed goalies points and put an asterisk beside it. Usually in a pool it's not even a problem when the final point count is done so it's not worth arguing over now... if it does produce a difference in the standings... there are usually better final stats at the end of the tournament anyway.

it is only disputed if you do not look at the final stats

 

[ales83fan]

I don't think he gets the win.... because he was not part of the win. he was part of a tie.

That's my personal opinion.

I do agree that you got screwed on the Rielly non-assist, but you and Lakai can duke it out for that point, since then we would have to take a point from RNH that didn't exist either (I'm just answering to it because you brought it up in another comment).

Just my two cents.

I don't think I'm winning this pool anytime soon. My D is terrible, and other than Strome, Rattie and Drouin, and maybe Yarulin, I made some terrible picks.

Oh well. Always next year!

 

[Jumptheshark]

I don't think he gets the win.... because he was not part of the win. he was part of a tie.

That's my personal opinion.

I do agree that you got screwed on the Rielly non-assist, but you and Lakai can duke it out for that point, since then we would have to take a point from RNH that didn't exist either (I'm just answering to it because you brought it up in another comment).

Just my two cents.

I don't think I'm winning this pool anytime soon. My D is terrible, and other than Strome, Rattie and Drouin, and maybe Yarulin, I made some terrible picks.

Oh well. Always next year!

take a look at my d

 

[ales83fan]

take a look at my d

Murphy isn't bad. He just tries to do too much. Get the puck to RNH buddy, that should pad your stats on the PP. Instead, he tries to carry WAY too much. Looks lost at times even.

 

[Jumptheshark]

nice to see my swedes rack up some pts

 

[Soli]

Sigarev injured and Zharkov capitalizes as his replacement on the top line. Rakell not Rakelling up the points (1 assist in every games he's played) and apparently shuffled to a secondary scoring line. Lassinanti didn't start (backup started the 2nd half of the back-to-back today). Pretty lackluster day for me.

I changed the scoring from the Lassinanti SO-pull to an OT Loss for 1 point.

 

[Cerebral]

Sigarev injured and Zharkov capitalizes as his replacement on the top line. Rakell not Rakelling up the points (1 assist in every games he's played) and apparently shuffled to a secondary scoring line. Lassinanti didn't start (backup started the 2nd half of the back-to-back today). Pretty lackluster day for me.

I changed the scoring from the Lassinanti SO-pull to an OT Loss for 1 point.

I think the one point is fair. A win makes no sense because he didn't win but zero points doesn't make sense either.

Slepyshev picked up a point finally - I was hoping for a big game out of him.

 

[ales83fan]

Got a shutout from my goalie. He actually made some awesome saves, including a monster grab in the 2nd, even though it was against Germany. I'll take it though!

I actually think the top 2 goalies in this tournament, based on what I have seen so far, are Gibson and Makarov. That game they had was pretty intense.

You add one of those guys to the Canada team and we have a Gold medal. Not to harp on Subban, but 6 goals against Germany and Slovakia don't earn my confidence. I would start Binnington just about now.