2003 redraft: #4

[toothlessgoon]

Pick the player who should go #4 in a 2003 redraft

Previous poll results (player's original draft position in parenthesis)

1. Patrice Bergeron: 75.5% (#45)
2. Ryan Getzlaf: 45.3% (#19)
3. Shea Weber: 70.3% (#49)

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[amnesiac]

Pavelski
Burns
Perry
Staal
Suter

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

1 player is going to have a statue, the rest not so likely

It’s time to vote Dustin brown

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Staal, then Suter.

 

[Eegs]

The ageless, Joe Pavelski.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Eric Staal was a PPG center a huge chunk of his career, so him.

 

[Altimus]

i went with the dude who scored 50 goals in a season.

 

[CanadienShark]

Burns or Staal.

Then Pavelski. Then Perry. Then Fleury.

 

[Xspyrit]

Give me Pavelski

What. A. Player

 

[stl76]

Suter's longevity would be incredibly valuable in an actual redraft.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Shoutout to Corey Crawford for being the best goalie in this draft

 

[ESH]

I think Suter is getting really underappreciated here. Even when they were playing together, there was people on here saying Suter was the better defender than Weber.

 

[Buck Naked]

Agree with Suter. Norris votes 10 years in a row. His consistency at an extremely high level is matched by very few in the cap era.

 

[Byron Bitz]

Little Joe, his consistency and longevity elevate him above the rest

 

[wintersej]

I think Suter is getting really underappreciated here. Even when they were playing together, there was people on here saying Suter was the better defender than Weber.

Suter and Josi both had a lot better go of it without Weber than Weber did without an elite partner.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Suter and Josi both had a lot better go of it without Weber than Weber did without an elite partner.

Also played with much, much better D than Weber did when he left Nashville to be fair. I think Edmundson was the best they rolled out for Weber, guy was strapped to Mete for almost a whole season lol

Pavelski, Perry, Suter or Flower here I don't think any answer is a bad one out of those four

 

[wintersej]

Also played with much, much better D than Weber did when he left Nashville to be fair. I think Edmundson was the best they rolled out for Weber, guy was strapped to Mete for almost a whole season lol

Pavelski, Perry, Suter or Flower here I don't think any answer is a bad one out of those four

I admit I’m a Weber hater. He was an elite goal scorer from the blue line but wasn’t enough of a game changer as a defender to make up for his puck moving skills. He was Ekblad. Very good! But not so good you could just throw a guy with him and still have an elite top pair like you can with the elite of the elite d-men. His prime being before the analytics revolution, I think, has led to an oversized opinion.

 

[Regal]

I admit I’m a Weber hater. He was an elite goal scorer from the blue line but wasn’t enough of a game changer as a defender to make up for his puck moving skills. He was Ekblad. Very good! But not so good you could just throw a guy with him and still have an elite top pair like you can with the elite of the elite d-men. His prime being before the analytics revolution, I think, has led to an oversized opinion.

His analytics were actually quite good in his prime though, depending on what you want to look at. He was a weird one where there started to be a changing opinion about him due to corsi around the time of the trade to Montreal, but then as we started to move to expected goals and regression models, etc, his prime started to look much better again. I do agree that he was somewhat limited due to his skating and puck handling, so was better suited to play with another good partner who could do those things, rather than carrying a lesser partner, the way other all around defensemen like Hedman have done. Ekblad is a decent comparable, though his analytics were also really good this year.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Brent

 

[DFF]

Staal

For awhile, he was the best

 

[Jared Dunn]

I admit I’m a Weber hater. He was an elite goal scorer from the blue line but wasn’t enough of a game changer as a defender to make up for his puck moving skills. He was Ekblad. Very good! But not so good you could just throw a guy with him and still have an elite top pair like you can with the elite of the elite d-men. His prime being before the analytics revolution, I think, has led to an oversized opinion.

Disagree with this take if only because I think roughly 100% of players he matched up against in his prime would also disagree with this take

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I feel like Fleury is getting underrated here.

 

[hamzarocks]

This draft produced so many stars but no real superstar

Getzlaf at his peak and weber were the closest. Webers prime wasn't that long and Getzlaf only had 1 year where he was likely a top 5 player

Weber was never a top 5 player, Bergeron never top 10 really.

Lots of 60-80 pt guys who played quite long