Proposal: 2 ideas for my bruins

nmbr_24

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Absolutely awful value for CBus.


Also some pretty poor value for Winnipeg.



No trouble to tell you're a Bruins fan, that's for sure.

Awful value for Columbus??? They get the best player in the deal and that is usually a pretty good indication of who is going to come out ahead in the end. I also don't see how a 40-50 point D and a 1st round pick is awful value for a guy who has asked to be traded. I would love to hear an explanation of how this is "awful value for CBus".
 

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Awful value for Columbus??? They get the best player in the deal and that is usually a pretty good indication of who is going to come out ahead in the end. I also don't see how a 40-50 point D and a 1st round pick is awful value for a guy who has asked to be traded. I would love to hear an explanation of how this is "awful value for CBus".



Given age and Contract, Jenner is the most valuable player in the trade.


And they're the ones adding in the deal. That's why it's awful value. Just because Jenner is having a slow start doesn't mean he's worth nothing all of a sudden.


He's a 23 Year old 30 Goal scorer.
 

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The amount of proposed deals on HFB surrounding players with NMC's is staggering, as if it's not a big deal to get a player to waive said clause in his contract. Not going to happen. Team either buys him out, or he's yours.

krecji can name 15 teams he doesn't want to go too... I'm wondering if he wants to stay in the east? I think its fair to speculate that he might accept a trade
 

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Would Boston be interested in Savard instead of Johnson?

Savard + Hartnell + Bittner for Krejci + Miller + '18 2nd Rd Pick

then we can do Murray for Trouba to resolidify the 2nd pairing RHD


Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Hartnell-Backes-Spooner
Belesky-Nash-Hayes
Heinen-Moore-Acciari

Chara-Carlo
Krug-Savard
Liles-Miller/McQuaid

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Jenner-Krejci-Atkinson
Saad-Wennberg-Foligno
Calvert-Dubinsky-Anderson
Sedlak-Karlsson-Gagner

Werenski-Jones
Johnson-Trouba
Nutivaara-Miller/Prout

I'm told savard is very good so I assume boston is interested in him... but the contract of hartnall is a killer. boston is trying to pay for an increase to marchand plus new contracts for pastrnak and spooner next year.

all in all... the Columbus idea is to facilitate the trouba deal. without the trouba deal I don't think the Columbus idea makes a lot of sense and I would veto it myself.
 

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To further the discussion on a deal around Johnson+ for Krejci, here is an idea that keeps both teams' needs/salary structures/future expansion draft implications in mind:

To Boston: Jack Johnson($4,357,143) + Scott Hartnell ($4,750,000) + Paul Bittner
(9.1M in cap)

To Columbus: David Krejci ($7,250,000) + Kevan Miller ($2,500,000) + 3rd Rd Pick
(9.75M in cap)

The Jackets cannot take on Krejci without moving a forward contract for expansion purposes. If Hartnell is willing to waive for Boston, he seems like a good fit for their group. For Boston, they get their top-4 LHD they need, a top-6 winger who can score 50 points, and a good forward prospect. For Columbus, they get their top-line center which they desperately need, get some value back for Johnson who will most likely be lost to expansion if kept, and fill out their third defensive pairing on the right side. The salaries going both ways are close to being even, too.


Boston's lineup:

Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Hartnell-Spooner-Backes
Belesky-Nash-Hayes
Heinen-Moore-Acciari

Chara-Carlo
Krug-McQuaid
Johnson-Miller/Liles


Columbus' lineup

Jenner-Krejci-Atkinson
Saad-Wennberg-Foligno
Calvert-Dubinsky-Anderson
Sedlak-Karlsson-Gagner

Werenski-Jones
Murray-Savard
Nutivaara-Miller/Prout

Both lineups can definitely compete


edit: also, playing around on capfriendly, neither team's outlook is adversely affected salary-wise by this move. Here is the Jackets' outlook, and Boston's outlook.

I probably am fine with the talent because I'm a huge fan of hartnall... but the contract situation scares me for the future

If you took jimmy hayes instead of the 3rd id be ok with the deal

I am planning to put trouba into the krejci spot in the cap so I cant fill it with harnall... but I could put hartnall into the hayes/miller spots... Johnson moves into the krug spot... trouba fits into the krejci spot... we free up around 2 mill to get pastrnak and spooner signed.
 

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Would Boston be interested in Savard instead of Johnson?

Savard + Hartnell + Bittner for Krejci + Miller + '18 2nd Rd Pick

then we can do Murray for Trouba to resolidify the 2nd pairing RHD


Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak
Hartnell-Backes-Spooner
Belesky-Nash-Hayes
Heinen-Moore-Acciari

Chara-Carlo
Krug-Savard
Liles-Miller/McQuaid

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Jenner-Krejci-Atkinson
Saad-Wennberg-Foligno
Calvert-Dubinsky-Anderson
Sedlak-Karlsson-Gagner

Werenski-Jones
Johnson-Trouba
Nutivaara-Miller/Prout

I personally wouldn't want to do that. If we're going to do the Murray-Trouba trick for a C, I want someone who'll be part of the core for many years to come.
 

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Given age and Contract, Jenner is the most valuable player in the trade.


And they're the ones adding in the deal. That's why it's awful value. Just because Jenner is having a slow start doesn't mean he's worth nothing all of a sudden.


He's a 23 Year old 30 Goal scorer.

Nope, I don't see "awful value" there. Krejci is a #1 center who can lead the league in scoring during the playoffs while completely shutting down guys like Crosby. They would get a #1 center and a bottom pairing D. Johnson according to a lot of fans does great as a 3-4D and Jenner would be Boston's 2nd line center unless they used Backes there and Jenner would switch to wing.

I am not saying this is a great deal for them, I am not saying this makes any sense for Columbus, but it is absolutely not "awful value".
 

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