Value of: 1st or 2nd LW to MTL

[Legend123]

Even Stephen Desrocher a 6th rder from that same draft out pointed Juulsen by a significant margin and he's in the Leafs mid/late 30's in terms of prospect rankings. He probably won't even get a contract lol

the most pure stat watcher in these boards. Congrats!

 

[Halla]

What do you think is fair?

dont go there lol.

he thinks JVR is worth a late 1st/early 2nd.

 

[Halla]

Many habs fans were willing to trade pick 9 for JVR
now they are attached to their prospect though so they feel Sergachev>>>JVR. not even close.

Juulsen + a 2nd? leafs laugh and block the habs number. kid couldnt even make the world junior team and had a miserable draft+1

 

[CanadienShark]

Many habs fans were willing to trade pick 9 for JVR
now they are attached to their prospect though so they feel Sergachev>>>JVR. not even close.

Juulsen + a 2nd? leafs laugh and block the habs number. kid couldnt even make the world junior team and had a miserable draft+1

In all fairness, I don't think many of them expected Sergachev to go that low.

 

[Moose Head]

These 'great' leaf prospect dmen discussions in regard to Juulsen remind me of the great Pogge/Price debate from a few years back.

 

[BatVader]

Don't want Cammelleri.
Hartnell is ok if cheap.
If we are keeping Patches, then we need a 2LW who can play 1LW if needed.
I've said JVR would be a great fit for years, and if TO is interested in Beaulieu then maybe something could be worked out.
I'd love to get Landeskog, but don't think Colorado is interested in moving him.

 

[CharlesHabsFan]

Fair enough for the Beaulieu for JVR idea. Didn't think you had enough depth on LD as well. We have a few RD, but nothing substiantial the Leafs could actually use. Not like you want a bottom pairing RD either, like Pateryn and such.

Beaulieu or Juulsen are both LD, so the Leafs wouldn't really need them. But I think Beaulieu + a low 1st/early 2nd is fair for JVR. What was the condition for the 2nd in the next year though ?

Many habs fans were willing to trade pick 9 for JVR
now they are attached to their prospect though so they feel Sergachev>>>JVR. not even close.

Juulsen + a 2nd? leafs laugh and block the habs number. kid couldnt even make the world junior team and had a miserable draft+1

Actually, that's not entirely true. The same Habs fans oppose to every single trade all the time and always undervalue the other team's players, no matter what... or overvalue ours. And these posters were also against JVR for 9th, when many other Habs fans were in favor. Aside from the usual ones, I think you could find at least some agreeing on Beaulieu + low 1st + conditional 2nd 2018 for JVR, depending on the condition.

 

[FissionFire]

Tatar or Nyquist are firmly on the block for top pair or possibly an elite #3 defenseman if you have any to move.

 

[glenbuis]

Too bad Rickardo Nash doesn't want to go to any Canadian teams

no no no no no thats a very good thing.

 

[TT1]

Even Stephen Desrocher a 6th rder from that same draft out pointed Juulsen by a significant margin and he's in the Leafs mid/late 30's in terms of prospect rankings. He probably won't even get a contract lol

Juulsen had 3 points (1G-2A) in the 1st game on the rookie tournament today.

 

[gwh]

JVR is worth late 1st + 2x2nd on the trade deadline. Comparable is Pomminville to Minnesota.

 

[glenbuis]

JVR is worth late 1st + 2x2nd on the trade deadline. Comparable is Pomminville to Minnesota.

that would be a bit pricey. have to wait to see if jvr is gonna hang out with lupul at the infirmary this year or play.

 

[glenbuis]

some salary would have to go to toronto as well

 

[TheDoldrums]

JVR is worth late 1st + 2x2nd on the trade deadline. Comparable is Pomminville to Minnesota.

Huh? Pominville is 6 years older and wasn't productive at all last year. Seems he's past his prime. If they were the same age I could see the comparison.

 

[gwh]

Huh? Pominville is 6 years older and wasn't productive at all last year. Seems he's past his prime. If they were the same age I could see the comparison.

Bit holiday mood?

Pominville was last traded in 2012 TDL. For 1st + bunch of gadgets, total value approximately 1st+2x2nd.

1st line winger. 1 year left until UFA. Scoring between 25-30 goals a season. Sound like anyone familiar?

His current trade value is negative, 4 seasons later.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Bit holiday mood?

Pominville was last traded in 2012 TDL. For 1st + bunch of gadgets, total value approximately 1st+2x2nd.

1st line winger. 1 year left until UFA. Scoring between 25-30 goals a season. Sound like anyone familiar?

His current trade value is negative, 4 seasons later.

Oh, gotcha. I see that.

 

[CharlesHabsFan]

Bit holiday mood?

Pominville was last traded in 2012 TDL. For 1st + bunch of gadgets, total value approximately 1st+2x2nd.

1st line winger. 1 year left until UFA. Scoring between 25-30 goals a season. Sound like anyone familiar?

His current trade value is negative, 4 seasons later.

Giving Beaulieu + 2 x 2nds for JVR sense. It's not that terrible of a price to solidify our top 6... if management decided to go with Sergachev or have a plan of replacing Beaulieu right away in some sort.

 

[mikeyp24]

Scott Hartnell: Another aging player on a long contract. The habs should never go after him unless the CBJ accept prospects and/or picks

That's exactly what we want. It will be deadline time if we do it and we would have to be sellers but price would be likely late first and we retain MAYBE 20% at most or a 2nd and a top B prospect who is not NHL ready. We will take back 0 NHL contracts unless we are out of it maybe we accept an expiring deal but unlikely. The only reason we trade Hartnell is for an upgrade or to clear a spot for one of our own ready guys.

 

[Magic Man]

Juulsen had 3 points (1G-2A) in the 1st game on the rookie tournament today.

The Leafs rookies play the Habs rookies tonight. Dermott, Nielsen, Valiev, Desrocher etc. etc. could be playing tonight. We'll see how he looks next going head to head with some of the names I've been mentioning.

 

[Canada4Gold]

In all fairness, I don't think many of them expected Sergachev to go that low.

I wanted the Habs 9th overall to draft Sergachev actually. That's who I would have been targetting with that trade. And in the off chance he wasn't there then Juolevi or Chychrun would be.

Going into the draft I would have said maybe 60% chance he would have been there at 9.

 

[tony d]

Beaulieu and a 2017 2nd.

 

[glenbuis]

Beaulieu and a 2017 2nd.

leafs may want a bit more yet but salary has to go the other way to make it work. leaves defence a bit thin on the left to. sergachev should not be rushed

 

[Finnish your Czech]

Has to be Sergachev otherwise I wouldn't do it. Leafs already have a few potential second pairing guys, I'd need someone with top pair potential, otherwise I'd wait until the 2018 deadline and move him for a 1st+ if he can't be re-signed.

 

[Liferleafer]

Nope, but apparently Beaulieu is being shopped, since in Bergevin's vocabulary, receiving calls of inquiries means the player is on the block... but fans are to be told the player is not for sale.

What kind of package could be made around Beaulieu for JVR ?

I don't think Beaulieu would be the main piece to be honest, something pretty nice would need to be added.

 

[Liferleafer]

that would be a bit pricey. have to wait to see if jvr is gonna hang out with lupul at the infirmary this year or play.

Unless you think ankle injuries are career ending......

There was no sense bringing him back last season, would have hurt the tank.