#1OA Juraj Slafkovsky - Huge Disappointment

[BigDaddyLurch]

He's elevated himself out of the realm of "Worst 1OA ever" at this point.

So, you know, progress has been made.

Edit: The harsh reality is the 2022 may end up as the worst draft in recent memory. That might mitigate the awfulness of the Habs drafting a 45 pt left-winger with the 1OA pick.

...he scored 50 points as a 19 year old already, in his first full year, and is on pace to repeat it as a 20 year old...so please explain how he is just a "45 pt left-winger"...I swear, some people on this Site don't even watch hockey...

 

[Javaman]

...he scored 50 points as a 19 year old already, in his first full year, and is on pace to repeat it as a 20 year old...so please explain how he is just a "45 pt left-winger"...I swear, some people on this Site don't even watch hockey...

His career PPG is 42 points in his third NHL season. He's currently on pace for 47 points. It's perfectly reasonable for me to describe him as 45-pt left winger. It's up to him to put up stats to counter my statement.

I swear, some people on this site don't grasp even the most basic of statistics.

 

[Fatass]

His career PPG is 42 points in his third NHL season. He's currently on pace for 47 points. It's perfectly reasonable for me to describe him as 45-pt left winger. It's up to him to put up stats to counter my statement.

I swear, some people on this site don't grasp even the most basic of statistics.

45 or 50. Either way he’s very disappointing for a 1OA. Habs should trade him for Lafreniere.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

His career PPG is 42 points in his third NHL season. He's currently on pace for 47 points. It's perfectly reasonable for me to describe him as 45-pt left winger. It's up to him to put up stats to counter my statement.

I swear, some people on this site don't grasp even the most basic of statistics.

...completely disingenuous arguement; in his only full seasons so far, at 19 years old, he's got a 50 pointer...this year, he's on pace to do it again if he plays the full Season, his 2nd full season in the NHL so far...idiotic take...

 

[SlafySZN]

Will his offence improve as he’s asked to play more sound defensively? The Gabs have no pressure to win and play fire wagon hockey. It’s fun as hell to watch but it’s not exactly how to win. At some point the coach will demand the players all play the right way. How will Slafkovsky produce when those expectations are placed on him? Imo he’s a 50 point winger who can play a heavy game. Nothing wrong with that. Just for a 1OA the expectations are higher.

He’s already good defensively and creates chances from the neutral zone a lot. His points total will actually go up with consistency and him putting everything together as a player.

He’s been a 50 points player at 19 and 20 years old, I’d place a pretty easy bet that he hasn’t reach his ceiling… lol.

 

[Javaman]

There was a time where you actually watched the team. Not anymore.

I wouldn’t argue about a player you barely watched if I were you but hey I guess some can’t help themselves.

Look, I understand why you want to post when you feel like may get some support from your fellow Habs fans. Getting likes is a big rush. But it's not why you should be making posts. Quality trumps likes.

It doesn't matter how much of JS I have watched. The statistics speak for themselves. He's on pace to be a 45 point LW. That's just facts.

 

[SlafySZN]

Look, I understand why you want to post when you feel like may get some support from your fellow Habs fans. Getting likes is a big rush. But it's not why you should be making posts. Quality trumps likes.

It doesn't matter how much of JS I have watched. The statistics speak for themselves. He's on pace to be a 45 point LW. That's just facts.

What are you blablating about? I’m sure you’re happy getting the attention you were looking for by commenting on this thread. Big rush, as you said.

If you think a 20 years old player is done developing that’s on you, I guess.

 

[Javaman]

What are you blablating about? I’m sure you’re happy getting the attention you were looking for by commenting on this thread. Big rush, as you said.

If you think a 20 years old player is done developing that’s on you, I guess.

Please quote me where I said a 20 year old player is done developing.

Go on. I'll wait.

In the meantime, enjoy the rush. It's not like I haven't had to endure Slaf truthers before.

 

[SlafySZN]

Please quote me where I said a 20 year old player is done developing.

Go on. I'll wait.

In the meantime, enjoy the rush. It's not like I haven't had to endure Slaf truthers before.

You said he is on ‘’pace’’ to be a 45 points player just minutes ago and said the habs drafted a 45 points player in another post earlier. As if his 19-20 years old seasons are what he is gonna be all of his career.

I’m sure you enjoy whatever rush you’re talking about. Your initial post was pretty telling on what you searched for by commenting in this thread.

 

[TomKosto]

Slaf was never drafted to be a Patty kane. If he can be a 70pts power foward, I’ll be happy. It sucks we drafted first OV that year and not a year with a Celibrini, Bedard…I guess it’s the karma for 24 cups!

 

[Javaman]

You said he is on ‘’pace’’ to be a 45 points player. As if his 19-20 years old seasons is what he is gonna be all of his career.

I’m sure you enjoy whatever rush you’re talking about.

Oh my f***ing god. He's literally on pace for 47 points in his third NHL season. It's not up to me to prove he's not going to do more than that. It's up to you to convince everyone he's going to exceed that.

I'm not writing him off, but it's blatantly unreasonable at this point to assume he's going to be better just cuz he's a #1OA.

 

[Javaman]

You said he is on ‘’pace’’ to be a 45 points player just minutes ago and said the habs drafted a 45 points player in another post earlier. As if his 19-20 years old seasons are what he is gonna be all of his career.

I’m sure you enjoy whatever rush you’re talking about. Your initial post was pretty telling on what you searched for by commenting in this thread.

Quote me where I said a 20 year old player is done developing.

 

[SlafySZN]

Oh my f***ing god. He's literally on pace for 47 points in his third NHL season. It's not up to me to prove he's not going to do more than that. It's up to you to convince everyone he's going to exceed that.

I'm not writing him off, but it's blatantly unreasonable at this point to assume he's going to be better just cuz he's a #1OA.

It’s blatantly unreasonable to think a 20 years old not even close to his peak years, who already has a 50 points season is gonna develop to be better than he is right now?

Quote me where I said a 20 year old player is done developing.

You just did, for a 3rd time in your last post.

You think it’s ‘’blatantly unreasonable’’ to think he is gonna get better than he is now.

 

[Javaman]

It’s blatantly unreasonable to think a 20 years old kid not even close to his peak years, who already has a 50 points season is gonna develop to be better than he is right now?



You just did, for a 3rd time in your last post.

You think it’s ‘’blatantly unreasonable’’ to think he is gonna get better than he is now.

Quote me where I said a 20 year old was done developing. Go on, HF even has a quote feature. Should be a simple thing.

 

[MessierII]

Slaf was never drafted to be a Patty kane. If he can be a 70pts power foward, I’ll be happy. It sucks we drafted first OV that year and not a year with a Celibrini, Bedard…I guess it’s the karma for 24 cups!

Yeah I think if you accept that he’s a good but not great player it’s still a win. He’s a very skilled, huge guy and that alone is extremely valuable. It kind of sucks it was a #1 but you can still do a lot worse and he is still quite young.

 

[TomKosto]

Quote me where I said a 20 year old was done developing. Go on, HF even has a quote feature. Should be a simple thing.

Twist it like you want, but you said « I'm not writing him off, but it's blatantly unreasonable at this point to assume he's going to be better just cuz he's a #1OA. »

I mean, he is going to get better, 1st OA or not. Still really young.

 

[SlafySZN]

Quote me where I said a 20 year old was done developing. Go on, HF even has a quote feature. Should be a simple thing.

it's blatantly unreasonable at this point to assume he's going to be better just cuz he's a #1OA.

He's on pace to be a 45 point LW.

That might mitigate the awfulness of the Habs drafting a 45 pt left-winger with the 1OA pick.

here’s 3 quotes from minutes ago where you’re saying it’s either unreasonable to think he’s gonna be better or literally saying the habs drafted a so and so player as if that’s what he is gonna be for his career. Do I have to spell it out with colours or separate letters for it to be even more obvious?

Him staying a 50 points player would mean him… not developing.

Enough with the trolling.

 

[SlafySZN]

I'm not assuming he's going to get better. I'm not assuming he's going to stall. I'm simply evaluating based on the evidence at hand. You're assuming he's going to get better simply because he's young.

I'm not twisting anything. Just asking for evidence to support your claims.

Your post makes Habs fans look bad.


Where in all of this did I say that a 20 year old player was done developing?

Oh right, no where.

Geezuz.

At least you accomplished some trolling today.

 

[Dutronc]

Wow this is something else

 

[Javaman]

By your logic, the only evidence we can provide to you to prove that a 20yold Slaf can get better is a stats sheet from the future. I’ll find a time travel ship and comeback to your cave soon. See ya troll (dont forget the water)

This is total nonsense and a complete misrepresentation of what I've been saying. It's maddening that Slafkovsky defenders consistently resort to such blatant dishonesty.

WTF is this nonsense about time travel? His stats are his stats. That's all.

 

[TomKosto]

This is total nonsense and a complete misrepresentation of what I've been saying. It's maddening that Slafkovsky defenders consistently resort to such blatant dishonesty.

WTF is this nonsense about time travel? His stats are his stats. That's all.

He CANT get better!!! You conviced me bro with your argumentative. Stats are what they are and he won’t get better over time! It took time but I get it now.

 

[Javaman]

He CANT get better!!!

Alright, you win. Slafkovsky can't get better.

Not that I necessarily agree with you, but this seems like the easier path to end things.

 

[Lshap]

This is total nonsense and a complete misrepresentation of what I've been saying. It's maddening that Slafkovsky defenders consistently resort to such blatant dishonesty.

WTF is this nonsense about time travel? His stats are his stats. That's all.

I'm sorry, but your posts aren't making sense, and all your huffing and puffing is making it worse.

Read your own writing. You are literally claiming Slafkovsky will remain a 45-point player:

That might mitigate the awfulness of the Habs drafting a 45 pt left-winger with the 1OA pick.

He's on pace to be a 45 point LW. That's just facts.

it's blatantly unreasonable at this point to assume he's going to be better just cuz he's a #1OA.

And then you completely contradict yourself:

Please quote me where I said a 20 year old player is done developing.

Quote me where I said a 20 year old player is done developing.

There is no way to pair these bi-polar posts. Pick a lane. You either believe a 20-year-old will never progress beyond his current season, or you believe a 20-year-old is not finished developing. It cannot be both.

 

[TheSuperElite]

1st overalls have been pretty mid for a long time now.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

1st overalls have been pretty mid for a long time now.

Yeah they have I am not sure why people are giving hab fans shit for the Slaf pick. There was no clear cut number 1 overall so management picked what they thought was best in the future which was Slaf. People seem to be writing off everyone from this draft class and a ton of people have already said it was a weak draft to begin with so I am not sure why this thread was even made? to shit talk hab fans? I think this thread has run its course considering people have said what they wanted and considering Slaf is still 20 years old FFS....