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1999 NHL Draft Question

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Hey all hoping you can help me out.

My roomate told me that Henrick Sedin was supposed to be a mid round pick and is upset that the Canucks used the 3rd overall pick on him.

I was much younger but remember that everyone and their dog knew that Both Sedins were consensus top 5 picks.

I've looked everywhere for pre draft rankings and cant find any.

Can someone prove one of us right or wrong?
 
Credit to HabsFan18's awesome THN Draft Preview archive thread: Taking a look back at past THN Draft Previews 1986-2004

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Mid-round picks don't get multipage spreads. Here's a screenshot from THN's 2013 Draft Preview which happened to list their 1999 rankings:

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Central Scouting rankings with the Sedins #1 and #2 on the European list: 1999 CSB Final (EUR Skaters) - The Draft Analyst

ESPN mock draft via E.J. Hradek with the Sedins going #2 and #3: NHLENTRYDRAFT

The Sedins were consensus top 4 picks.
 
Credit to HabsFan18's awesome THN Draft Preview archive thread: Taking a look back at past THN Draft Previews 1986-2004

DSC05274.jpg


Mid-round picks don't get multipage spreads. Here's a screenshot from THN's 2013 Draft Preview which happened to list their 1999 rankings:

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Central Scouting rankings with the Sedins #1 and #2 on the European list: 1999 CSB Final (EUR Skaters) - The Draft Analyst

ESPN mock draft via E.J. Hradek with the Sedins going #2 and #3: NHLENTRYDRAFT

The Sedins were consensus top 4 picks.
Can't remember the specific rankings, but both were consensus top 5. It was considered a major coup for burke to get both.
 
Can't remember the specific rankings, but both were consensus top 5. It was considered a major coup for burke to get both.

Yup, definitely fun to look back at it. I remember waking up, turning on the draft, and the announcers struggling to explain the series of trades that had occurred.



- Chicago wins the draft lottery on May 16, 1999 but only get to move up from #8 to #4. Brian Burke started bugging Blackhawks GM Bob Murray about moving the pick potentially. As I understand it, they had a handshake agreement (Vancouver would give up a young Bryan McCabe and a future 1st) contingent on Burke securing both Sedins. Years later, Burke and Murray would work together in Anaheim.

First of all, Tampa Bay needs scorer

- Rick Dudley was the first year GM in Tampa and he inherited a relatively barren club. Most figured they'd target a winger (Brendl or D.Sedin) to pair with Vinny Lecavalier. But Dudley thought he might be able to spin the pick into multiple assets (definitely a cautionary tale).

- According to Burke he bugged Dudley nonstop but was rebuffed until the night before / morning of the Draft. Not sure if Burke knew, but Dudley had another deal worked out after this one.

- Vancouver temporarily moved up from #4 to #1, and only needed to send a pair of 3rd rounders to get it done. Burke then convinced Atlanta GM Don Waddell to trade #2 and a 3rd rounder to move up for #1, this way Burke could draft both Sedins at the same time. Atlanta then had the PR story about having the #1 overall pick.

- Tampa would then trade #4 to the Rangers for Niklas Sundstrom, Dan Cloutier, and a future 1st and 3rd round picks. With the 2000 Expansion Draft looming, they figured they couldn't protect both Mike Richter and Dan Cloutier.

- A few weeks later, Tampa traded Niklas Sundstrom to San Jose for Andrei Zyuzin, Bill Houlder, Shawn Burr, and Stephen Guolla. Sharks GM Dean Lombardi admitted later that he had buyer's remorse about drafting Zyuzin in 1996, so he was more than happy to trade him while he still had trade value.

- In the end, Dudley turned the #1 overall pick into Cloutier, Zyuzin, Houlder, Burr, Guolla, and the #8 pick in 2000 (Nikita Alexeev). Probably not a string of deals that Dudley will put on his highlight reel.

Edit: Found some more info - Canucks at 50: The Sedins are No. 1 and 1A on the list of the greatest Canucks of all time

Dudley wanted a second- and fourth-rounder to trade places with the Canucks. Burke was offering two thirds and hung up on Dudley when the Bolts’ GM wouldn’t budge. That left Burke sitting there on the morning of June 26, 1999, wondering if he’d just traded Bryan McCabe, a first-rounder and two thirds for Pavel Brendl and not, in fact, the Sedin twins.

Dudley, it would be revealed, was always going to make the deal with Burke because he had another trade cooking with the Rangers for the fourth-overall pick.

This was interesting as well:

The fun actually started on the final day of the NHL regular season when Cory Stillman’s goal with four seconds left gave the Flames a 5-4 win over the Canucks and dropped the Orcans to 26th overall in the 27-team NHL.

Boxscore from that game: Calgary Flames at Vancouver Canucks Box Score — April 14, 1999 | Hockey-Reference.com

If Vancouver had tied/won that game, they would have swapped spots with the Islanders heading into lottery. Assuming Chicago still wins the lottery, Vancouver's own pick would have been bumped to #5 and likely would have meant no chance at getting both Sedins. Fun to think what that alternate universe might have looked like, maybe it's Mike Milbury who's able to unite the Twins?
 
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Can't say I'm familiar with the magazine, but here's another ranking with Henrik at #4: Renaissance Online Magazine [Sports]

Local Tampa article from before the draft lottery: Lightning pick as easy as 1-2-3-4

"If someone said I had 10 seconds to make a choice, I think I would have a name," Lightning head scout Don Murdoch said Thursday. "But, that name could change. Honestly, it's still up in the air."
If Murdoch was given 10 seconds to make a choice, indications are the Lightning would be stitching up a jersey for Daniel Sedin, a center from Sweden. But don't dismiss Sedin's twin brother, Henrik. Or Patrik Stefan from the IHL. Or Pavel Brendl from the Western Hockey League.
 
Hey all hoping you can help me out.

My roomate told me that Henrick Sedin was supposed to be a mid round pick and is upset that the Canucks used the 3rd overall pick on him.

I was much younger but remember that everyone and their dog knew that Both Sedins were consensus top 5 picks.

I've looked everywhere for pre draft rankings and cant find any.

Can someone prove one of us right or wrong?

I remember that draft year quite clearly. Nucks Fans wanted Pavl Brendl to make up for the lost of Pavel Bure in a trade earlier in 1999. We lose a goal scorer here is our chance to draft another goal scoring sensation It was almost a natural choice to make and Brendl torched the WHL that season. Sedins were never ranked in the mid rounds as far as I know although back then there were a lot less scouting sources to read off of. Anyways your friend is wrong lol.
 
Daniel was regarded as the better of the two pre draft because he had a more refined scoring touch, but the gap was minimal. Consensus was that it was four players at the top with Sedins, Brendl, and Stefan.
 
Sedins were effectively #1 and #2 overall.

I think it's fishy to consider that a #3OA pick was used on Henrik when the #1OA had a condition of not being able to pick Sedins. It's like having #1OA in 2020 with the condition of not being able to pick Lafreniere. It's not much of a #1OA.
 

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