17,585 is the number Delaware North is looking at today

[Morris Wanchuk]

You sick f***.

I think I have the worst likes to post ratio in all of HF. Seems to check out

 

[Fenian24]

I hope somebody writes a book someday about this ownership group.

What an interesting story.

Jeremy takes a hardline stance in the 90s, and fights tooth and nail against the players association to get his salary cap.

By all accounts, costs the Bruins multiple Cups in the process.

They finally do right through post lockout when they bring in an outsider to assemble the roster and implement his vision.

However, in the grand scheme of things, the one Cup is an under achievement.

Always in the mix, rarely coming out on top.

That’s what the scoreboard says your legacy is.

Anton Levay wrote the story of JJ's time in Boston.

 

[Fenian24]

When I first had my ST, the arena was never sold out. Many from the balcony would come sit in the loge. There were about 3000 STH.

They treated the STH much better.

Tickets were more than half cheaper than now. The team was not so good.

The coach was Robbie Ftorek. ..then Mike O'Connell, then Mike Sullivan ..then Dave Lewis...and Claude Julien (my favorite since I have had my ST)...You know the rest.

I hope they fix the problems.

#1 on my bucket list is to see the Bs win the cup on home ice with me there. I am almost 72....Seats are too expensive now and eventually driving to and from NH will be too much for an old lady.

I saw St Louis and Chicago skating on the Garden ice in front of me....

I got to see Edmonton skate around with the Cup (and somebody smack Craig Muni in the head with a shoe from the balcony), I would just like another Cup.

 

[Fenian24]

Could they have won another Cup in the 70s, 80s, or early 90s had they extended?

90? 91/92?

A bit before my time, so going mostly based on what old timers like my dad have told me.

That and WHA taking a bite out of their core towards the end of the Orr years.

74 should have been a Cup, 1979 is still the one that hurts the most, can argue 92 as well. 2019 is unforgiveable.

 

[Ludwig Fell Down]

The 88-94 core should've won at least one. 1991 was probably their best shot, and I think a lot of people could argue that if Ulf doesn't cheapshot Neely that they win that series and the cup. By extension, if Neely is healthy in 92, they probably are more competitive in that conference final too. I still have no idea how that 1993 team got themselves swept by Buffalo, because the rest of the division leaders all lost too and the field would've been wide open if they advanced. Just a weird playoff year overall.

Really, most of the 90s failure boils down to Cam's knee and thigh turning to bone. The two years that he missed the playoffs with lingering injuries, the team actually went surprisingly far without him (conference finals in 92, taking a 2-0 lead on the Devils in the second round in 94), to the point where if he were healthy, maybe they go farther.

1993 is still one of their biggest disappointments. An amazing regular season with the B's, Nords and Habs alternating over 100 points. B's won the division with the prize of playing a .500 Sabres team, and scored about 6 goals total in a 4-game sweep.

 

[McGarnagle]

1993 is still one of their biggest disappointments. An amazing regular season with the B's, Nords and Habs alternating over 100 points. B's won the division with the prize of playing a .500 Sabres team, and scored about 6 goals total in a 4-game sweep.

The crazy thing is that they actually put up 12 goals in the four games (technically 12 in three and one shutout in game 2). Adam Oates had nine apples, Neely was 4G-1A, Juneau 2G-4A. And despite leading both sides with 9 points, Oates was an even +/-. Andy Moog just got lit up by Mogilny.

And that team wasn't a fraud that got out to a hot start and faded down the stretch, they won their last eight games of the season to win the division and Buffalo lost their last seven of the season to limp into the playoffs.

That was a little before my time as a fan so I didn't get to watch it as it unfolded, but just through stat sheets and such I still cannot make sense of that series for the life of me.

 

[Fenway]

The OP is mysterious! But with Fenway posting, it's legit.

Someone fill in some of the mysterious implied blanks for me...

The reality is Papa is 84 and the family is bracing for life without him.

In your estimation, do you think Sweeney going all in on the 2023 deadline was a directive from above like they wanted to be aggressive to try to win one while the boss was still around to see it?

No doubt in my mind that is why they went all in

 

[Fenway]

Here’s the thing about those boos. They’re heard loud ‘n’ clear 450 miles west in Buffalo, where team owner Jeremy Jacobs knows the perils of not keeping the customer satisfied. The boos can convert overnight to empty seats, a devalued product.

A quick look on line Monday afternoon had Loge 8 tickets for the CBJ game being offered up at $20 a pop–upward of a 90 percent discount from what season ticket holders pay when investing in their full-season package. It’s also about what Jacobs charges for a draft beer at Garden concessions. Painful Jacobsnomics.

The Bruins, the Garden, and surrounding real estate development, including the $65 charge to park at Bruins-Celts game, have become a Jacobs/Delaware North diamond mine through the decades. Bruins hockey has been the gemstone at the center of it all. In the scheme of things, tossing the coach overboard to help preserve that core is a mere bottle cap removed from another pricey tallboy at the concession stands.

Jim Montgomery’s message was not getting through, but roster composition a big part of problem for Bruins - The Boston Globe

We can question Montgomery’s cooking, but as they’ve been wont to say for years now in Foxborough, he didn’t buy the groceries.

www.bostonglobe.com

 

[Ladyfan]

I think I have the worst likes to post ratio in all of HF. Seems to check out

I like you!

 

[TP70BruinsCup]

On the subject of missed Cups, I often think of 1982-83. They were #1 overall. They looked poised to be the one's to pass the Islanders and the new champs. Two things though: O'Reilly hurt his knee and that was massive for the leadership of that team (..........funny, almost 40 years later and we are talking about a team that is missing in the leadership department. Go figure!). Also Pete Peters couldn't beat that Islanders. He was an MVP finalist that season but in that semi final year he just flaked out vs them. Too bad as that would have given Brad Park a Cup that year, given Cashman another one too and Cheevers one as coach. That would have been cool! That team that year had it all................for the most part.

 

[Johnny Upton]

The crazy thing is that they actually put up 12 goals in the four games (technically 12 in three and one shutout in game 2). Adam Oates had nine apples, Neely was 4G-1A, Juneau 2G-4A. And despite leading both sides with 9 points, Oates was an even +/-. Andy Moog just got lit up by Mogilny.

And that team wasn't a fraud that got out to a hot start and faded down the stretch, they won their last eight games of the season to win the division and Buffalo lost their last seven of the season to limp into the playoffs.

That was a little before my time as a fan so I didn't get to watch it as it unfolded, but just through stat sheets and such I still cannot make sense of that series for the life of me.

I did get to watch at it unfolded and it was a total kick in the jimmies. The worst part was they were up 5-3 in Game 4 headed into the 3rd period so I thought, at least it won’t be a sweep! Yeah, not so much.

 

[Gordoff]

On the subject of missed Cups, I often think of 1982-83. They were #1 overall. They looked poised to be the one's to pass the Islanders and the new champs. Two things though: O'Reilly hurt his knee and that was massive for the leadership of that team (..........funny, almost 40 years later and we are talking about a team that is missing in the leadership department. Go figure!). Also Pete Peters couldn't beat that Islanders. He was an MVP finalist that season but in that semi final year he just flaked out vs them. Too bad as that would have given Brad Park a Cup that year, given Cashman another one too and Cheevers one as coach. That would have been cool! That team that year had it all................for the most part.

Brad Park never sipping Champagne from the Cup is almost criminal.
I still get a lump in my throat thinking about that and the fact that the B's
passed on him for some lump in the 1970 amateur draft only to finally get him in the blockbuster trade of '75 when Orr was skating on essentially one leg.
Did the Bruins management of '70 think that they had Orr and didn't need another uber talented blue-liner?
Imagine (for those of you who also lived in that most incredible time in Bruins history) Orr and Park on defense, on the PK, and especially the PP
for the Bruins for multiple years. Also, if Orr wasn't rushed back from surgeries from day one as a Bruin he maybe could've had several more season patrolling the Bruins blueline and racking up Cups. I've gotta go roll up in a ball and cry now.

 

[Fenway]

Brad Park never sipping Champagne from the Cup is almost criminal.
I still get a lump in my throat thinking about that and the fact that the B's
passed on him for some lump in the 1970 amateur draft only to finally get him in the blockbuster trade of '75 when Orr was skating on essentially one leg.
Did the Bruins management of '70 think that they had Orr and didn't need another uber talented blue-liner?
Imagine (for those of you who also lived in that most incredible time in Bruins history) Orr and Park on defense, on the PK, and especially the PP
for the Bruins for multiple years. Also, if Orr wasn't rushed back from surgeries from day one as a Bruin he maybe could've had several more season patrolling the Bruins blueline and racking up Cups. I've gotta go roll up in a ball and cry now.

It's sad Park never got his number retired here or in New York.

 

[quietbruinfan]

On the subject of missed Cups, I often think of 1982-83. They were #1 overall. They looked poised to be the one's to pass the Islanders and the new champs. Two things though: O'Reilly hurt his knee and that was massive for the leadership of that team (..........funny, almost 40 years later and we are talking about a team that is missing in the leadership department. Go figure!). Also Pete Peters couldn't beat that Islanders. He was an MVP finalist that season but in that semi final year he just flaked out vs them. Too bad as that would have given Brad Park a Cup that year, given Cashman another one too and Cheevers one as coach. That would have been cool! That team that year had it all................for the most part.

They needed more scoring. Ironically if Levielle does not go down,i think they have a chance. I doubt they finish first, but they have a chance.

 

[Clode]

When I first had my ST, the arena was never sold out. Many from the balcony would come sit in the loge. There were about 3000 STH.

They treated the STH much better.

Tickets were more than half cheaper than now. The team was not so good.

The coach was Robbie Ftorek. ..then Mike O'Connell, then Mike Sullivan ..then Dave Lewis...and Claude Julien (my favorite since I have had my ST)...You know the rest.

I hope they fix the problems.

#1 on my bucket list is to see the Bs win the cup on home ice with me there. I am almost 72....Seats are too expensive now and eventually driving to and from NH will be too much for an old lady.

I saw St Louis and Chicago skating on the Garden ice in front of me....

I remember back in 09 when I was 14 my dad snagged 4 balcony tickets to a Saturday night game against Florida for like 30 bucks a piece. They won 6-1 and the crowd was chanting for Byron Bitz in the finals minutes because he had 2 goals that night. Those were the days....

 

[TheRealChrisKelly]

The 88-94 core should've won at least one. 1991 was probably their best shot, and I think a lot of people could argue that if Ulf doesn't cheapshot Neely that they win that series and the cup. By extension, if Neely is healthy in 92, they probably are more competitive in that conference final too. I still have no idea how that 1993 team got themselves swept by Buffalo, because the rest of the division leaders all lost too and the field would've been wide open if they advanced. Just a weird playoff year overall.

Really, most of the 90s failure boils down to Cam's knee and thigh turning to bone. The two years that he missed the playoffs with lingering injuries, the team actually went surprisingly far without him (conference finals in 92, taking a 2-0 lead on the Devils in the second round in 94), to the point where if he were healthy, maybe they go farther.

Great post.
Adam Oates stat line from the Buffalo series is the craziest thing. They scored 12 goals in the 4 games. Oates assisted on 9 of them!

 

[Ladyfan]

I remember back in 09 when I was 14 my dad snagged 4 balcony tickets to a Saturday night game against Florida for like 30 bucks a piece. They won 6-1 and the crowd was chanting for Byron Bitz in the finals minutes because he had 2 goals that night. Those were the days....

That was such a fun game. We were there too.

 

[Patdud]

Jim Montgomery’s message was not getting through, but roster composition a big part of problem for Bruins - The Boston Globe

We can question Montgomery’s cooking, but as they’ve been wont to say for years now in Foxborough, he didn’t buy the groceries.

www.bostonglobe.com

Roster composition and the coaches scheme/style haven't matched up other than his first year. This is a grinding/mucking team by composition and the whole "not a volume shot team" comment cemented that it was a bad marriage bound to spoil as soon as the goaltending and Bergy rug was pulled out from under them.

Need to find a coach that will play fast, scrappy, and toeing over the edge of dirty.

 

[goldenblack]

The reality is Papa is 84 and the family is bracing for life without him.

Yeah that much was the part I got. I just wondered what life without him might look like, for all of us...

 

[Ludwig Fell Down]

It's sad Park never got his number retired here or in New York.

I've become semi-obsessed with Park as I've aged. One of the most under appreciated stars of that era, along with Marcel Dionne. And in my younger days I always thought he had a much longer career with the Rangers, but he had almost equal time with both franchises. He, Ratty and Middleton were three of the keys to the B's staying competitive post Orr and Espo. Watching replays of the '76 and '77 finals the Habs were pressuring him constantly, which I'm sure was a purposeful strategy.

 

[SpeedyLazaro]

so are they considering selling the team? That would be interesting

 

[Fenian24]

I've become semi-obsessed with Park as I've aged. One of the most under appreciated stars of that era, along with Marcel Dionne. And in my younger days I always thought he had a much longer career with the Rangers, but he had almost equal time with both franchises. He, Ratty and Middleton were three of the keys to the B's staying competitive post Orr and Espo. Watching replays of the '76 and '77 finals the Habs were pressuring him constantly, which I'm sure was a purposeful strategy.

It was, Bowman used that same strategy with Orr in the 70's final. Pressure and shut down the teams best D and hem the team in. Didn't work with an expansion team in 1970 (though they did do a good job of shutting down Orr as much as anyone could) but worked great with the late 70's Habs juggernaut

 

[smithformeragent]

The reality is Papa is 84 and the family is bracing for life without him.




No doubt in my mind that is why they went all in

https://www.hhof.com/induction_archives/ind17Jacobs.shtml

Is there a good book about the Jacobs family?

 

[smithformeragent]

I remember back in 09 when I was 14 my dad snagged 4 balcony tickets to a Saturday night game against Florida for like 30 bucks a piece. They won 6-1 and the crowd was chanting for Byron Bitz in the finals minutes because he had 2 goals that night. Those were the days....

I had an absolute blast from 2006-2010 watching this team.

Went to probably 15-20 games a year as a poor college kid, delivering pizzas.

They were still "off-brand" in terms of the Boston sports landscape. It was amazing when they finally broke through and won the Cup, but I'll always love those pre-Cup days with the die hard fans.

I remember seeing them get killed 10-2 one night by the Leafs. Remember scoring $30 loge tickets against teams like Florida, Nashville, and Edmonton.

What great memories.

 

[the negotiator]

I had an absolute blast from 2006-2010 watching this team.

Went to probably 15-20 games a year as a poor college kid, delivering pizzas.

They were still "off-brand" in terms of the Boston sports landscape. It was amazing when they finally broke through and won the Cup, but I'll always love those pre-Cup days with the die hard fans.

I remember seeing them get killed 10-2 one night by the Leafs. Remember scoring $30 loge tickets against teams like Florida, Nashville, and Edmonton.

What great memories.

So true- I moved backed to Boston in 2006 and bought season tickets for 06-07 ...back in the days when it was buy one- get one. ( YES really). Lots of nights when it felt like there were more visitors fans than Bruins fans.

And then it all changed and we have been graced with an extended run of very good hockey... it has been a really fun ride, even if there was only one Cup when there should have been 1 or 2 more.

I am not ready for that to change- hopefully the guys who put on the sweaters and skates feel the same way. And more importantly- show it on the ice