17,585 is the number Delaware North is looking at today

[Fenway]

17,850 is the official sellout number for the Bruins but on Monday the Bruins in the official NHL report said they fell short - Their last non-sellout game was on 12/2/2009 when a Wednesday game vs. TB drew 16,553

The sellout streak was bogus but if it were close enough they would say it was.......... but not last night

Monday at 6:30 PM you could have bought 2 tickets in Loge 108 for $40

There is stuff going on with the Jacobs that nobody outside the family knows. All I can share is this.....

Papa Jacobs loved a tavern in East Aurora, NY, and went there often to see old friends and watch a Bills road game. They have not seen him in 2 years. Truth is Jeremy loves and respects the blue-collar work ethic of Western New York and he kept his family company there.

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[DKH]

This has happened to all our Boston teams last 10 years

The Celtics had loge seats $30 post Pierce-Garnett.

They picked
2014 6th Smart
2015 3rd Brown
2016 1st (3) Tatum

My friend had loge seats those years sold at his cost to friends, however, once bad no interest paying $120 when they were available for less than half that

We bought Red Sox September left field past third lower box my favorite seats two years ago $40

As for Jacobs he wasn’t here for 100 years celebration and rumor health related

He was around a lot prior to that ~ he hasn’t been seen I don’t think in a few years over there

The actual team doesn’t suck imo - and I don’t fall into the American intersection of Panic & overreaction.

Rule 1: you start by changing the most obvious reason for the problem. It either is resolved, improved, or isnt

 

[Fenway]

As for Jacobs he wasn’t here for 100 years celebration and rumor health related

He was around a lot prior to that ~ he hasn’t been seen I don’t think in a few years over there

Papa is 84 and I hope he is comfortable

 

[smithformeragent]

I hope somebody writes a book someday about this ownership group.

What an interesting story.

Jeremy takes a hardline stance in the 90s, and fights tooth and nail against the players association to get his salary cap.

By all accounts, costs the Bruins multiple Cups in the process.

They finally do right through post lockout when they bring in an outsider to assemble the roster and implement his vision.

However, in the grand scheme of things, the one Cup is an under achievement.

Always in the mix, rarely coming out on top.

That’s what the scoreboard says your legacy is.

 

[Dr Hook]

Papa is 84 and I hope he is comfortable

I know yu've probably said all you can or know, but how much legs does this potential swap of ownership with Pens, Bruins, and Sabres have to it? Is this a serious thing that the NHL would be on board with, or just an idea that hasn't gotten much further than preliminary eploration?

 

[Therick67]

Think of all the unsold hotdogs..

 

[Dr Hook]

I don't know what kind of owner John Henry would be as I am not clued in to the Boston pro sport scene outside the Bruins. What I would love for the Bruins is an owner or ownership group that have made their money somewhere else and are owning the team because they love it and are willing to just break even or even run at modest loss from time to time if it means making the club better. I've never liked the Jacobs concession business ties to the arena, it's always felt a bit slimy (even though I admit it might not be).

 

[DGS]

Yeah, all this stuff just makes me think a lot more is going on in the org besides just poor play and poor coaching. In my work, when things seem uncertain and the organizational direction is unclear, you kind of hold steady but don't put all your eggs in any basket. Have to think that is going on with everyone from the front office to the coaches and players.

It also makes more sense than the idea that everyone just suddenly forgot how to hockey.

 

[McGarnagle]

I hope somebody writes a book someday about this ownership group.

What an interesting story.

Jeremy takes a hardline stance in the 90s, and fights tooth and nail against the players association to get his salary cap.

By all accounts, costs the Bruins multiple Cups in the process.

They finally do right through post lockout when they bring in an outsider to assemble the roster and implement his vision.

However, in the grand scheme of things, the one Cup is an under achievement.

Always in the mix, rarely coming out on top.

That’s what the scoreboard says your legacy is.

I don't see how it cost them multiple cups. He didn't have the resources to complete with the Rangers, Red Wings, etc. in the free for all that was the pre-lockout era.

Having probably the best run organization from 2008-2024 and only one cup is a disappointment when you have scummy franchises like Chicago getting multiple titles, but thems the breaks.

I think what cost them a shot at multiple cups early on was how Jacobs and O'Connell had been preparing for the lockout and salary cap years in advance and had most of their big contracts set to expire in 2004 so they could have their pick of all the compliance buyouts in the summer of 05, but the NHLPA pulled the rug from under him with the 25% salary rollback which left very few buyouts and the Bruins having to patch together a full roster from the likes of Brad Isbister and Sean Mceachern.

Papa is 84 and I hope he is comfortable

In your estimation, do you think Sweeney going all in on the 2023 deadline was a directive from above like they wanted to be aggressive to try to win one while the boss was still around to see it?

 

[Ladyfan]

When I first had my ST, the arena was never sold out. Many from the balcony would come sit in the loge. There were about 3000 STH.

They treated the STH much better.

Tickets were more than half cheaper than now. The team was not so good.

The coach was Robbie Ftorek. ..then Mike O'Connell, then Mike Sullivan ..then Dave Lewis...and Claude Julien (my favorite since I have had my ST)...You know the rest.

I hope they fix the problems.

#1 on my bucket list is to see the Bs win the cup on home ice with me there. I am almost 72....Seats are too expensive now and eventually driving to and from NH will be too much for an old lady.

I saw St Louis and Chicago skating on the Garden ice in front of me....

 

[smithformeragent]

I don't see how it cost them multiple cups. He didn't have the resources to complete with the Rangers, Red Wings, etc. in the free for all that was the pre-lockout era.

Having probably the best run organization from 2008-2024 and only one cup is a disappointment when you have scummy franchises like Chicago getting multiple titles, but thems the breaks.

I think what cost them a shot at multiple cups early on was how Jacobs and O'Connell had been preparing for the lockout and salary cap years in advance and had most of their big contracts set to expire in 2004 so they could have their pick of all the compliance buyouts in the summer of 05, but the NHLPA pulled the rug from under him with the 25% salary rollback which left very few buyouts and the Bruins having to patch together a full roster from the likes of Brad Isbister and Sean Mceachern.


In your estimation, do you think Sweeney going all in on the 2023 deadline was a directive from above like they wanted to be aggressive to try to win one while the boss was still around to see it?

Could they have won another Cup in the 70s, 80s, or early 90s had they extended?

90? 91/92?

A bit before my time, so going mostly based on what old timers like my dad have told me.

That and WHA taking a bite out of their core towards the end of the Orr years.

 

[AngryMilkcrates]

I hope somebody writes a book someday about this ownership group.

What an interesting story.

Jeremy takes a hardline stance in the 90s, and fights tooth and nail against the players association to get his salary cap.

By all accounts, costs the Bruins multiple Cups in the process.

They finally do right through post lockout when they bring in an outsider to assemble the roster and implement his vision.

However, in the grand scheme of things, the one Cup is an under achievement.

Always in the mix, rarely coming out on top.

That’s what the scoreboard says your legacy is.

What does the banker say his legacy is?

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Could they have won another Cup in the 70s, 80s, or early 90s had they extended?

90? 91/92?

A bit before my time, so going mostly based on what old timers like my dad have told me.

That and WHA taking a bite out of their core towards the end of the Orr years.

Should have won in '71 and '74 with Orr\Espo but don't see any Cups possible in the
1980's with NYI and Oiler teams, as B's were mediocre when Habs won in '86 and Kluzak's knee prevented them from advancing in '89 when Flames beat Habs.

'90 was best chance no doubt in 90's.

 

[Acie]

I flew out of the airport in Buffalo recently and everybody working near and around the food places were wearing Delaware North uniforms. Surely, they can't be hurting for cash, can they? lol

 

[McGarnagle]

Could they have won another Cup in the 70s, 80s, or early 90s had they extended?

90? 91/92?

A bit before my time, so going mostly based on what old timers like my dad have told me.

That and WHA taking a bite out of their core towards the end of the Orr years.

Jacobs didn't buy the team until after the WHA raided them. And free agency wasn't really a thing prior to the 94-95 lockout. Lots of teams were a player or two away from competing with the 70s Habs, 80s Oilers, or 90s Penguins, but it's not you ever had Gretzky or Bossy hitting the free agent market. And he did give Sinden the go-ahead to get Oates, who wanted out of STL over money, and paid him. The whole Jacobs is a cheapskate who cost them cups narrative hasn't ever passed the smell test to me and seems to be scapegoating an easy target.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Could they have won another Cup in the 70s, 80s, or early 90s had they extended?

90? 91/92?

A bit before my time, so going mostly based on what old timers like my dad have told me.

That and WHA taking a bite out of their core towards the end of the Orr years.

91 when they were up 3-1 in game six against a more talented Penguins team, they had a shot. But Recchi exploded. Sinden also told the team he would try to get Langway that year. He did no such thing.

 

[McGarnagle]

Should have won in '71 and '74 with Orr\Espo but don't see any Cups possible in the
1980's with NYI and Oiler teams, as B's were mediocre when Habs won in '86 and Kluzak's knee prevented them from advancing in '89 when Flames beat Habs.

'90 was best chance no doubt in 90's.

The 88-94 core should've won at least one. 1991 was probably their best shot, and I think a lot of people could argue that if Ulf doesn't cheapshot Neely that they win that series and the cup. By extension, if Neely is healthy in 92, they probably are more competitive in that conference final too. I still have no idea how that 1993 team got themselves swept by Buffalo, because the rest of the division leaders all lost too and the field would've been wide open if they advanced. Just a weird playoff year overall.

Really, most of the 90s failure boils down to Cam's knee and thigh turning to bone. The two years that he missed the playoffs with lingering injuries, the team actually went surprisingly far without him (conference finals in 92, taking a 2-0 lead on the Devils in the second round in 94), to the point where if he were healthy, maybe they go farther.

 

[EverettMike]

Rule 1: you start by changing the most obvious reason for the problem. It either is resolved, improved, or isnt

Can't believe you're advocating for replacing Don Sweeney but I'm glad to have you onboard.

 

[Kate08]

When I first had my ST, the arena was never sold out. Many from the balcony would come sit in the loge. There were about 3000 STH.

They treated the STH much better.

Tickets were more than half cheaper than now. The team was not so good.

The coach was Robbie Ftorek. ..then Mike O'Connell, then Mike Sullivan ..then Dave Lewis...and Claude Julien (my favorite since I have had my ST)...You know the rest.

I hope they fix the problems.

#1 on my bucket list is to see the Bs win the cup on home ice with me there. I am almost 72....Seats are too expensive now and eventually driving to and from NH will be too much for an old lady.

I saw St Louis and Chicago skating on the Garden ice in front of me....

I give you a lot of credit for sticking it out, and I hope you get your wish. There was a huge difference between how we were treated as STH (insane price increases aside) when we first had them and when we left. There are plenty of other options for our disposable income.

I was a bit tipsy over the weekend and bought tickets for the Centennial Game. I decided I really didn't want to go and ended up selling them at a loss.

Whatever.

 

[Ladyfan]

I give you a lot of credit for sticking it out, and I hope you get your wish. There was a huge difference between how we were treated as STH (insane price increases aside) when we first had them and when we left. There are plenty of other options for our disposable income.

I was a bit tipsy over the weekend and bought tickets for the Centennial Game. I decided I really didn't want to go and ended up selling them at a loss.

Whatever.

The games are usually enjoyable. Obviously of late ...not so much. I don't have much disposable income and the Bs are a huge expense. Like I said we usually have fun. I don't do much anymore as getting old is a challenge, so going to the games is important to me.

Even when they were bad, we were able to sell our seats for at least what we paid. They really haven't been a bad team for years.

My hope is they improve.

 

[Pia8988]

Can't believe you're advocating for replacing Don Sweeney but I'm glad to have you onboard.

Only if Harry and Cam share the taxi with him

 

[Aeroforce]

I watch a number of out of town games, and notice empty seats throughout the league. Even the better teams like Carolina don't fill every seat, sold or not.

I imagine with the increased TV revenue and now all this gambling stuff, a few empty seats aren't a big deal.

Personally, as a lifelong small businessman, exorbitant inflation has caused fairly substantial lifestyle changes. I used to venture to Dallas when the Bruins visited; but the price now for everything involved, not just tickets, is cost-prohibitive.

Boy, was that a good decision this year.

But I'm now 56 and my mindset has changed. That's partly due to the aforementioned disruption to my lifestyle; which let's face it, the Garden could be half empty every night and it won't affect the Jacobs family an iota.

But also the realities of life. Honestly I wasn't upset over the loss to Columbus. I still have vivid images of Sean Monahan breaking down on Guy Goudreau's shoulder after carrying Johnny's casket. I was happy for him.

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

I was a STH 2008-2015. It was a good run, had a ton of fun, especially 2008-2013. Life got busy, prices went up. MA started sending 1099 if you sold more than $1k on Stub Hub. I feel like something inside of my fandom was traded away with Lucic in 2015. I guess I found a Chia run team more fun than Sweeney.

I also ditched cable in 2015 so I was not as tuned in as I was before. Still love HF though.

 

[goldenblack]

The OP is mysterious! But with Fenway posting, it's legit.

Someone fill in some of the mysterious implied blanks for me...

 

[EverettMike]

Still love HF though.

You sick f***.