Prospect Info: 12th Overall 2024 Draft, LHD Zeev Buium

[P10p]

Im over being upset. Just hope for a W tonight and go from there.

Question though, if the wild win does the outrage disappear? I mean it's easy to say "you ice the best team" to throw shade but none of us know if zeev is part of the best team we can ice at this moment. He just played some grueling hockey and is really only 19 years old. We will see in the next few weeks how it shakes out I guess.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Nothing is stopping you from offering a contract after year 2 and before year 3.

Correct. And there's nothing stopping Buium from saying "nah, I'll play out the 3rd year and see if I can't do better".

 

[AKL]

I don’t disagree with what your saying. The best teams do tend to get tons of value from ELCs. Most of the surplus value in the NHL each year is coming from ELCs. Rossi, Boldy, Faber, and Kaprizov’s ELCs single-handedly kept us competetive during the buyouts. But what I would also say is that good cap health in general is imprtant, regardless of the contract type. We need players on good value deals there’s a chance making him sign his second contract well before his theoretical prime kicks in is really advantageous for us in terms of getting out in front of a potential superstar breakout.

I'm just not as convinced that we're gonna time it that well and the difference will be 8 vs 13, as I am convinced that having that third ELC year will be more impactful.

Assuming he doesn't play in the playoffs of course. If he does play I have no problem burning it.

 

[DigitalBoldy]

Correct. And there's nothing stopping Buium from saying "nah, I'll play out the 3rd year and see if I can't do better".

If he wants to risk it, that's on him. A 3rd year breakout isn't a guarantee.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

If he wants to risk it, that's on him. A 3rd year breakout isn't a guarantee.

Neither is a 3rd year regression. Could just be that whatever contract is there after year 2 would probably still be there after year 3, so might as well take a chance on a jump.

It's not that rare to go to the end of the ELC. Makar did it, Q. Hughes did it, Seider did it.

 

[NHL1674]

Im over being upset. Just hope for a W tonight and go from there.

Question though, if the wild win does the outrage disappear? I mean it's easy to say "you ice the best team" to throw shade but none of us know if zeev is part of the best team we can ice at this moment. He just played some grueling hockey and is really only 19 years old. We will see in the next few weeks how it shakes out I guess.

If the Wild win, the question will become does he get time in the playoffs? I keep going back to Boldy being held out when he could have made a big difference against Vegas. I think it was Vegas....or was it Vancouver? My mind is mush right now.

 

[57special]

If the Wild win, the question will become does he get time in the playoffs? I keep going back to Boldy being held out when he could have made a big difference against Vegas. I think it was Vegas....or was it Vancouver? My mind is mush right now.

I would guess no, unless there are a ton of injuries.

 

[AKL]

If the Wild win, the question will become does he get time in the playoffs? I keep going back to Boldy being held out when he could have made a big difference against Vegas. I think it was Vegas....or was it Vancouver? My mind is mush right now.

If the Wild win the question is which star is Jon Merrill at the end of the night?

The Wild should win this game, and Jon Merrill figures to be a tiny part of the success. Better to know what you have in Buium so you don't have to wonder in the playoffs.

So if the Wild win I imagine the answer to your question is no.

Was Vegas btw.

 

[Wabit]

lol very close! I actually am playing a rogue, and we have a bag of holding.

Bags of holding are useful and fun.

Here's a neat trick; that will work only once if the DM is good. Slight of hand check for a rouge (as example) to get the bag over the head of the enemy (2' diameter to work with) then destroy the bag (tear it, pierce it, put another bag of holding over it, etc.).

Downside everything that was inside the bag is now lost (scattered across some astral plane). Upside is there is still a body left to loot.

 

[Al Lagoon]

Some of you guys have a very pessimistic outlook. He doesn't play as a 19 year old with 1 practice under his belt in a pivotal end of season game, and now he's gonna want to leave ASAP?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Wasn't flawless, didn't expect it to be.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

Wasn't flawless, didn't expect it to be.

Bust.

 

[AKL]

I'm ready to trade him for a big body bottom 6er

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Hard to kill that pass at the end without seeing the lane from his view. I did think there was an earlier time, probably in the 2nd period, where he hesitated way too long to shoot and he was in pretty darn close.

 

[BagHead]

Lots of rookie mistakes and some lead-footed moments. We'll need to see how he adjusts. The potential is there and is obvious.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Perplexing he had 2 offensive zone starts the entire game.

 

[MrRuin]

Tough first game for sure. They tried something with throwing him into the fire and it didn’t really work out. Going to be interesting if we see him again next game.

 

[keppel146]

Tough first game for sure. They tried something with throwing him into the fire and it didn’t really work out. Going to be interesting if we see him again next game.

Show him some video and let him play

 

[57special]

Perplexing he had 2 offensive zone starts the entire game.

Not when you know who his partner is.

Zeev was fine. Skating was better than i thought it would be, but he needs to recalibrate to the speed, power, and smarts of the NHL. No coasting back on the puck retrievals(as someone else on here said)... you need to get to the puck ASAP. With some work on his skating with the Ness's, he'll be a vg skater.
The last pass, again, he probably could've gotten away with in college. I would bet he doesn't make that mistake again. i do question Hynes decision to stick him out there in his very 1st NHL game, leaving guys like Faber and Spurgeon on the bench.

Faber made a mistake on the 1st goal, Bogo a big, and unforced one, on the 3rd. I'm not going to get on Zeev for that final one.

He has already made Chisholm redundant. Merrill, too, though he plays a different game.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

Tough first game for sure. They tried something with throwing him into the fire and it didn’t really work out. Going to be interesting if we see him again next game.

I’m suprised how many people thought he was Brutal

 

[MNRube]

Saw enough to reinforce that he is going to bring a new element to the blueline. Bit of a gunslinger but we need more offense. Bad gap on the 3rd goal but Bogo also made that way too easy for Vegas.

I hope they give him a long leash this series. Pulling him now seems like a cruel move after being thrown into the lion’s den.

 

[57special]

I’m suprised how many people thought he was Brutal

Me too. I was pleasantly surprised at how good his skating was, and he showed flashes of intriguing puck handling/decision making. Hynes was just an idiot to stick him in at the end in his very first game.

I never expected a seamless transition to the NHL. He was playing beer pong at DU 10 days ago, and is 19 yo.

 

[MrRuin]

I’m suprised how many people thought he was Brutal

Not sure where I said "brutal" and for sure I didn't mean it like that. In the end he played like a Rookie defenseman would probably play his first game in the NHL. But he did get thrown into the fire and he had a few rough shifts. Don't think anyone disagrees with that? It was probably more noticeable than it should have been because he had ice time in some very prominent situations like the PP (which we already knew about) and also at the end of the game. Cannot really say if it was good or - maybe not "bad" but maybe not optimal is more of the right word - to play him in game one. Have to see what the staff is going to do for the rest of the series.

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

Not sure where I said "brutal" and for sure I didn't mean it like that. In the end he played like a Rookie defenseman would probably play his first game in the NHL. But he did get thrown into the fire and he had a few rough shifts. Don't think anyone disagrees with that? It was probably more noticeable than it should have been because he had ice time in some very prominent situations like the PP (which we already knew about) and also at the end of the game. Cannot really say if it was good or - maybe not "bad" but maybe not optimal is more of the right word - to play him in game one. Have to see what the staff is going to do for the rest of the series.

Well you said it didn’t really work and I don’t know if I agree with that

 

[Al Lagoon]

From what little I saw, he wasn't significantly worse than the rest of the d-corps. That all made mistakes.