News Article: 12 more f*****g years

[McShogun99]

Be thankful you missed pre cable television and only having CTV and CBC and French CBC. Then we got ITV and they showed Canucks games. So even at that we would get one Saturday night game, two if you wanted to watch in French, but usually at same time. Then you got a Wednesday Nucks game. Overall since 80's we've been spoiled with increasing amounts of games on TV. Even in 80 there would be maybe 20-25 Oilers games on. The rest sometimes you could get going to a lounge if they had early satellite. For instance picking up MSG OOT broadcasts. Which you had to guess at because there was no internet telling you if any particular broadcaster was showing game and of course no streams.

This ties in to the other poster talking about reading the newspaper the next day to find out what happened. This was pretty much my childhood with Oiler hockey.

 

[brentashton]

You didn't have that black box that played every channel (signal descrambler?)

And I'm honestly gonna go with an IPTV on my firestick. I'm sick of paying $300 a year for hockey and needing a VPN to get around blackouts.


Illegal or not IPTV's are a much better service. I'll pay for the services when they become better than something a 14 year old kid in Cambodia can setup.

You will still want the VPN to cloak the use of the IPTV from your ISP.

 

[Drivesaitl]

This ties in to the other poster talking about reading the newspaper the next day to find out what happened. This was pretty much my childhood with Oiler hockey.

For me it was either having the radio on or watching the latenight news or a sports channel recap.

Indeed during the 90's playoffs when I wasn't going to games I was working. Worked long hours back then, 3 jobs, and would often be driving home listening to third periods on radio. Back up next morn to do it all over again. 60-70hr weeks.

I remember "Roll on down the Highway" tune by BTO played often from 90-92. I'd pump the volume each time. jmo theres never been a better goal song than that one. It just kept rollin down the Highway. Funny thing is this was a mid 70's skipping school song. Get in somebodies ride and hit the road to a party somewhere. I loved he song then, the song had so many lives and still Rolling on.

 

[Drivesaitl]

You will still want the VPN to cloak the use of the IPTV from your ISP.

Plus um, do it before the firestick install. Ummm, I don't know how I know that.

lol I didn't even bother Roku, Firestick, Googlechrome. If its not there I don't need to watch. I would have cut cable already years ago but the wife wants cable. happy wife happy.......

 

[Fourier]

I get what you're saying, and said something similar in an earlier post in thead, but the slippery slope is starting and more games will be sold off to various streaming channels and being able to watch in future, and in the duration of this new contrac will require buying other subscriptions. The Prime this season was an obvious trail balloon. Due to fans oddly accepting that we will get a lot more of that now.

This was the first time in decades that not all Oilers games were available. Not since PPV had this occurred. So that for the consumer, viewer, things are sliding back again to pay to view.

That is certainly a danger, or more accurately a reality for where this is going. I guess for me it will come down to exactly how much I want to invest.

I am going to retire in a two months and originally our plans were to return to Edmonton. I was pretty sure I would at least have a half share ST for the team. That alone would have cost me per year what I would have to spend over two decades even if things go the streaming route. Since my plans have changed and I will not be retiring in Edmonton, my options are limited if I want to continue to follow the team to the degree I have in the past. For me this is a choice that I may make even if it is reluctantly. But I fully respect others decision not to do so. By the way I did not get Prime this year and as such I missed almost as many Oiler games as I have in two decades combined. What I will do in the future, I am not sure.

 

[Drivesaitl]

You nailed it.

There is an age demographic and socio economic demographic that will be impacted this way. They overlap as well but they are separate groups and are both significantly sized. Watching the continuing evolution of streaming will be interesting to observe. I’m not sure entertainment companies will recognize the need to walk a fine line between content offering and cost.

Or walk a fine line between content offering and dust...

With the continued fractioning of streaming and more and more providers wanting more and more and there being more and more content what ends up happening is the type of dilution where inevitably there is no mainstream, and content is marginal because the cost of provision of content is not paid for in a significantly portioned market.

Death of music industry

Death of movie industry

Death of Pro sports coming.

The whole entertainment industry is headed for spotification, then death of any new content. Or more content using hand held cameras that costs 50bucks to produce because there is no sufficient mainstream market.

We're already in a zeitgeist where mainstream is maybe 5 recording artists, 5 programs and no water cooler convos because nobody consumes the same entertainment beyond maybe a few things if that.

I've said before in music we're back to an industry where the choices are essentially Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, Pat Boone, Bing Crosby. Only the names are different but its only the multi selling that even make it in the door. just like the 40's or 50's.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Shorter form. Almost all of us were intergenerationally taught to be pro sports consumers Dads bringing kids to games Mostly dads watching games with their kids on the tube. its this story for most people. But whats happening now is whole age cohorts and population cohorts having no habit of watching or consuming the pro sports products. It took several generations to prop pro sports to the point it was. We're now seeing generations passing on it and the vast majority of populations today not being able to afford the product, or at least going to it. Pro sports is pricing itself to irrelevance. Its already moving hard to 1 percenter consumption.

Not just the viewers or consumers die out though. People play hockey less now because of price, because of less exposure, and because of hockey now being a sport only for the wealthy class. The latter has been going on for around 30yrs.

 

[Stoneman89]

I am no fan of Rogers, but for less than I would pay for one Oiler game I can get pretty much every NHL game plus a whole slew of OHL games that I can watch anytime I want. With all there is to complain about these days I think I will give this one a pass.

You can't get the "Bobby Nicks burger" at home though, and for the low bargain price of only $18 and swished down with a $16 beer, what's not to like?

 

[Fourier]

You can't get the "Bobby Nicks burger" at home though, and for the low bargain price of only $18 and swished down with a $16 beer, what's not to like?

The routine in the old days for guys I went with use to be a "gut bomb with fried onions" (hot dog) or some popcorn and a pop. We are probably talking about $3 bucks at the peak. But that was almost 1/2 the price of my ticket!!!!!!!!

 

[rboomercat90]

This ties in to the other poster talking about reading the newspaper the next day to find out what happened. This was pretty much my childhood with Oiler hockey.

The radio broadcasts were big in those days. Few games were on tv but all were on the radio and, of course, were free to listen too. That’s how Rod Phillips became so popular here to a couple generations of Oilers fans. He literally was the voice of the team for years when there was no other option to consume the product.

 

[Drivesaitl]

The routine in the old days for guys I went with use to be a "gut bomb with fried onions" (hot dog) or some popcorn and a pop. We are probably talking about $3 bucks at the peak. But that was almost 1/2 the price of my ticket!!!!!!!!

Favorite chocolate bar in pocket. Then grab a soda and a popcorn. Along with Oilers WHA Hudson Bay ticket thats 5bucks all in. Me and my friends would go get a Pizza after game at Coliseum Steak House and we were living like Kings. A Pizza big enough to feed several youth 10bucks. The whole night didn't cost any of us even 10bucks. Got to see the best player on Earth for that.

 

[abootzky]

This better not mean 12 more years of Debrusk, or I’ll run amok.

Dig in!

 

[Chet Manley]

Blackouts........

f*** me

Blackouts are in place by the NHL/teams.

 

[bone]

12 more years of Sportsnet.

f*** me.

While Rogers isn't great, anyone complaining about Rogers streaming obviously haven't dealt with TSN streaming very often.

In terms of the actual show production though yeah, I'm not a fan.

 

[Stoneman89]

The routine in the old days for guys I went with use to be a "gut bomb with fried onions" (hot dog) or some popcorn and a pop. We are probably talking about $3 bucks at the peak. But that was almost 1/2 the price of my ticket!!!!!!!!

Three bucks won't even get you half of the bun these days. Maybe just the condiments.

 

[Stoneman89]

Favorite chocolate bar in pocket. Then grab a soda and a popcorn. Along with Oilers WHA Hudson Bay ticket thats 5bucks all in. Me and my friends would go get a Pizza after game at Coliseum Steak House and we were living like Kings. A Pizza big enough to feed several youth 10bucks. The whole night didn't cost any of us even 10bucks. Got to see the best player on Earth for that

Favorite chocolate bar in pocket. Then grab a soda and a popcorn. Along with Oilers WHA Hudson Bay ticket thats 5bucks all in. Me and my friends would go get a Pizza after game at Coliseum Steak House and we were living like Kings. A Pizza big enough to feed several youth 10bucks. The whole night didn't cost any of us even 10bucks. Got to see the best player on Earth for that.

My friends elderly mom went to the game many years ago and was taken away by security after a check at the entrance. Her crime? When they checked her purse, they found an Oh Henry in it. She usually took a chocolate bar with her to give to her granddaughter when she sent to watch her ski, and had forgotten this one was still in the purse. After whisking her away to the "green room" (Oilers security interrogation room), they scolded her, confiscated the chocolate bar, reduced her to tears, and then let her go to her seat. A seat, by the way, which was part of a pair of 20 plus years season tickets. Her son was furious when he found out, but she convinced him to leave it alone and blamed herself for being so "careless". This was pre Katz, and the Oilers leaking ticket holders and struggling to stay alive.

 

[Drivesaitl]

My friends elderly mom went to the game many years ago and was taken away by security after a check at the entrance. Her crime? When they checked her purse, they found an Oh Henry in it. She usually took a chocolate bar with her to give to her granddaughter when she sent to watch her ski, and had forgotten this one was still in the purse. After whisking her away to the "green room" (Oilers security interrogation room), they scolded her, confiscated the chocolate bar, reduced her to tears, and then let her go to her seat. A seat, by the way, which was part of a pair of 20 plus years season tickets. Her son was furious when he found out, but she convinced him to leave it alone and blamed herself for being so "careless". This was pre Katz, and the Oilers leaking ticket holders and struggling to stay alive.

Yeah. I had a similar incident here in 2006. I'm celiac as you might remember. I can't eat the garbage they sell in rinks. So I had some gluten free trailmix and a little bag of those mini carrots. They frisked me, they lied that it was a "security search" when it was as much about confiscation of footstuffs. Made me throw the food in the garbage. I had come right from work so I was already hungry. Just had to go without.

The security were even escalated and physical. Had to have been some lawsuits about it back in the day. They hired people to do this that I think got off on the food cop role.

 

[Fourier]

My friends elderly mom went to the game many years ago and was taken away by security after a check at the entrance. Her crime? When they checked her purse, they found an Oh Henry in it. She usually took a chocolate bar with her to give to her granddaughter when she sent to watch her ski, and had forgotten this one was still in the purse. After whisking her away to the "green room" (Oilers security interrogation room), they scolded her, confiscated the chocolate bar, reduced her to tears, and then let her go to her seat. A seat, by the way, which was part of a pair of 20 plus years season tickets. Her son was furious when he found out, but she convinced him to leave it alone and blamed herself for being so "careless". This was pre Katz, and the Oilers leaking ticket holders and struggling to stay alive.

That was pretty much how much the Oilers valued STH in my time as well. The difference was that back then if you gave up your seat it was gone right away.

 

[Stoneman89]

Yeah. I had a similar incident here in 2006. I'm celiac as you might remember. I can't eat the garbage they sell in rinks. So I had some gluten free trailmix and a little bag of those mini carrots. They frisked me, they lied that it was a "security search" when it was as much about confiscation of footstuffs. Made me throw the food in the garbage. I had come right from work so I was already hungry. Just had to go without.

The security were even escalated and physical. Had to have been some lawsuits about it back in the day. They hired people to do this that I think got off on the food cop role.

Did you at least connect with the punch when you took a swing at one of them?