GDT: 12/19/24 Kraken @ Hawks CHSN 7:30

Kevin Musto

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Played well last few games...not tonight. And Nazar? Thought we'd see way more offense.
The only glaring mistake from Frank was trying to pass to bum Reichel when he should've ripped it top corner.

Otherwise, he's still getting settled in. The points will come. Then his swagger will be unmatched.

They need to get him up with Bedard, and away from Hall.
 
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Pez68

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For pete sake Blackhawks, either get Mikheyev to learn some english, or find a Russian translator when he gets 1st star. They could have easily found someone, we don't live in Curacao. It would be nice to hear his voice. Ridiculous.
To be fair, if I was living in a country for five years, I would learn the f***ing language.
 
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hawksfan50

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Nazar.. again no shots on goal...again no points and terrible on draws. .4/12 = 33%; sane as last game pointless and no shots on goal and he was 0/7 on draws that game..so he is 4/19 on draws last 2 ganes with no points ...bestvyou can say is he posted Even stats..
Connor Bedard tonight...pointless...And just 1 shot on goal..He failed to get puck out and turned it over to Seattle who went on to score
on that Bedard fail....on the positive side for him he was 67% on draws to lead the Hawks in tgat stat...4/6 ...Also he was there with Foligno causing the screens at the crease allowing Allan to fire into a gaping pretty open space at the net for that goal Allan scored.
Still..you cannot have Bedard and Nazar going pointless and combining for just 1 shotbon goal..
Hawks won despite there lack of production..

If you add in Dickinson and Reichel then it means tge combinedceffirtscofvtgec4 centers Hawks structure the team with put up Zero points a combined 1 shot on goal..that isvno recipe for a team needing offebsive scoring..

Lucky tge Mikeyev TT winger libematesxsibehowchave gelled into offebsive dynamos together.

It iscalk very strange..poor up the middle production...yet somehow the team is now winning.
Bedard is not getgingvthstcshotboff...and thatcrealkybis is best asset..This might have been a one off on thatv67% on draws butbonlyv6vdraws isxa small usage and they probably limited hom to his strong side...thoughIvdovrecalk 1cofvhisxwibsxwas in tgecd-zobe..I was quite taken aback I sgock he win one ofvthose.

But Nazar has beenatrociiuscintgecdotvladtc2cganes..4 outvofvlsdtc19bdraws just cannot rely on hom for such..

Anotger fail at C? Movevto wing Ir he us notcreDyvand send homback down?

WE cannot continue if thec4 guysxwe have at Center are pointless and combine for a Total of just 1 shotvon goal.

What NHL team is as bad as that wotbtheirc4 Centers?
 

hawksfan50

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Tgerecisxsinething wring when Foligno is 1LW and leads team in shots ongoal..no pointsxofccourse..

Seewe need wingersxtovsetvup Bedard for his Henerational Shot...not Bedard trying to set up Fokigno and Donato for attempted pretty goals...It iscall backwards..
Then you get slowxFomigno ubabkevto get to his checks as they pass to each other ona string and hemming the Bedard line ina push ....causing Brdard to turn over pucks ..faikingvtobgetbitboutvtovrekueve pressure.Dobato unable to take pucks away tov relieve pressure either.. point is ..get us 2 fast but strong wingers to get pucks off the opps and and transition rush back into the seetying Bedard up on 2on1 abd 3on1 rushes for rekease of hos shot...we cannot have 1 shot Connor...We need him as a top liner not to over pass to slow or average skaters shootersxand poor puck handlers..Bedard cannot defer his shot to bum wingers...he needs to defer and over-psss to little talent wibgers with poor pure shots
...He needs to be more selfish and shoot first..but it should be his wingers who rush pucks out in transition then enter o-zone and juse drop passes to Bedard for shot on goal and scores.Or if Hawks posssess lengthy time pressure in o-zone then hisxwibgers need to find hom for one timer releases of that shot..Instead wexare getting 1 shot Commor ganes and hom over-pasibg to not ideal wingers who cannot finish enough goals off.

They need to rethink what they are doing with Bedard.
 

SC116

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95 speaks English ok - he gets post game questions, and they are on the Hawks site. Presumably those are not provided in advance - so it's a bit of a beat up to claim that he doesn't. Considering how cheezy those are - frankly, I don't blame him. They didn't require 1st stars ever to do that in the 80's or 90's - in fact they just plain didn't do it, so I don't actually get why it is 'a problem'.

Didn't see Crevier being brutal. maybe I missed it -but I don't have that high of expectations for a #7 D-man. It was 3-1 right? so his 'brutal' play cost them the game, did it?

Man what a cool tribute to JR - man that is what Chicago hockey was. I wished he'd have spent his entire career in Chicago. If anything those 90's teams were even better than the 80's.

Speaking of which - if only I could get Richardson back, just to fire him again. At this point I am not seeing any reason that Sorenson is not a bonafide NHL coach. Breakouts are working, and they actually look like they are playing hockey - not whatever that was before.

Disagree with 'Hall being selfish' -Domi, he was selfish player who was auditioning to get out of town - and it worked for him.
 

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Tgerecisxsinething wring when Foligno is 1LW and leads team in shots ongoal..no pointsxofccourse..

Seewe need wingersxtovsetvup Bedard for his Henerational Shot...not Bedard trying to set up Fokigno and Donato for attempted pretty goals...It iscall backwards..
Then you get slowxFomigno ubabkevto get to his checks as they pass to each other ona string and hemming the Bedard line ina push ....causing Brdard to turn over pucks ..faikingvtobgetbitboutvtovrekueve pressure.Dobato unable to take pucks away tov relieve pressure either.. point is ..get us 2 fast but strong wingers to get pucks off the opps and and transition rush back into the seetying Bedard up on 2on1 abd 3on1 rushes for rekease of hos shot...we cannot have 1 shot Connor...We need him as a top liner not to over pass to slow or average skaters shootersxand poor puck handlers..Bedard cannot defer his shot to bum wingers...he needs to defer and over-psss to little talent wibgers with poor pure shots
...He needs to be more selfish and shoot first..but it should be his wingers who rush pucks out in transition then enter o-zone and juse drop passes to Bedard for shot on goal and scores.Or if Hawks posssess lengthy time pressure in o-zone then hisxwibgers need to find hom for one timer releases of that shot..Instead wexare getting 1 shot Commor ganes and hom over-pasibg to not ideal wingers who cannot finish enough goals off.

They need to rethink what they are doing with Bedard.

Bless yer cotton socks, me ol' trout. Ya needs a voice to text than can cypher Newfie, me b'y.
 

Pez68

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Tgerecisxsinething wring when Foligno is 1LW and leads team in shots ongoal..no pointsxofccourse..

Seewe need wingersxtovsetvup Bedard for his Henerational Shot...not Bedard trying to set up Fokigno and Donato for attempted pretty goals...It iscall backwards..
Then you get slowxFomigno ubabkevto get to his checks as they pass to each other ona string and hemming the Bedard line ina push ....causing Brdard to turn over pucks ..faikingvtobgetbitboutvtovrekueve pressure.Dobato unable to take pucks away tov relieve pressure either.. point is ..get us 2 fast but strong wingers to get pucks off the opps and and transition rush back into the seetying Bedard up on 2on1 abd 3on1 rushes for rekease of hos shot...we cannot have 1 shot Connor...We need him as a top liner not to over pass to slow or average skaters shootersxand poor puck handlers..Bedard cannot defer his shot to bum wingers...he needs to defer and over-psss to little talent wibgers with poor pure shots
...He needs to be more selfish and shoot first..but it should be his wingers who rush pucks out in transition then enter o-zone and juse drop passes to Bedard for shot on goal and scores.Or if Hawks posssess lengthy time pressure in o-zone then hisxwibgers need to find hom for one timer releases of that shot..Instead wexare getting 1 shot Commor ganes and hom over-pasibg to not ideal wingers who cannot finish enough goals off.

They need to rethink what they are doing with Bedard.
Post in English or just f*** off already.
 
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Clownish

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95 speaks English ok - he gets post game questions, and they are on the Hawks site. Presumably those are not provided in advance - so it's a bit of a beat up to claim that he doesn't. Considering how cheezy those are - frankly, I don't blame him. They didn't require 1st stars ever to do that in the 80's or 90's - in fact they just plain didn't do it, so I don't actually get why it is 'a problem'.

Didn't see Crevier being brutal. maybe I missed it -but I don't have that high of expectations for a #7 D-man. It was 3-1 right? so his 'brutal' play cost them the game, did it?

Man what a cool tribute to JR - man that is what Chicago hockey was. I wished he'd have spent his entire career in Chicago. If anything those 90's teams were even better than the 80's.

Speaking of which - if only I could get Richardson back, just to fire him again. At this point I am not seeing any reason that Sorenson is not a bonafide NHL coach. Breakouts are working, and they actually look like they are playing hockey - not whatever that was before.

Disagree with 'Hall being selfish' -Domi, he was selfish player who was auditioning to get out of town - and it worked for him.
Hall had the right idea. How many similar plays lead to a pass that isn't received and the play is dead? Try to put it on net and hope for a rebound once in a while. Maybe a pass to Donato would've worked, maybe not. Crevier was fine enough, and the three stars interview is lame and cheesy.
 

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Nazar has been fine. Still adjusting. Good to see him positionally sound for the most part, playing deeper in the d zone.
 

fiddytranslator

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Tgerecisxsinething wring when Foligno is 1LW and leads team in shots ongoal..no pointsxofccourse..

Seewe need wingersxtovsetvup Bedard for his Henerational Shot...not Bedard trying to set up Fokigno and Donato for attempted pretty goals...It iscall backwards..
Then you get slowxFomigno ubabkevto get to his checks as they pass to each other ona string and hemming the Bedard line ina push ....causing Brdard to turn over pucks ..faikingvtobgetbitboutvtovrekueve pressure.Dobato unable to take pucks away tov relieve pressure either.. point is ..get us 2 fast but strong wingers to get pucks off the opps and and transition rush back into the seetying Bedard up on 2on1 abd 3on1 rushes for rekease of hos shot...we cannot have 1 shot Connor...We need him as a top liner not to over pass to slow or average skaters shootersxand poor puck handlers..Bedard cannot defer his shot to bum wingers...he needs to defer and over-psss to little talent wibgers with poor pure shots
...He needs to be more selfish and shoot first..but it should be his wingers who rush pucks out in transition then enter o-zone and juse drop passes to Bedard for shot on goal and scores.Or if Hawks posssess lengthy time pressure in o-zone then hisxwibgers need to find hom for one timer releases of that shot..Instead wexare getting 1 shot Commor ganes and hom over-pasibg to not ideal wingers who cannot finish enough goals off.

They need to rethink what they are doing with Bedard.
There's something wrong when Foligno is the 1st line winger and leads the team in shots on goal with no points, of course.

We need wingers to set up Bedard for his generational shot, not Bedard trying to set up Foligno and Donato for attempted pretty goals. It's all backwards. Then you get slow Foligno, who is unable to get to his checks as they pass the puck to each other, hemming the Bedard line in a push and causing Bedard to turn over pucks, faking to relieve pressure. Donato is unable to take pucks away to relieve pressure either. The point is, get us two fast but strong wingers to win pucks off the opposition and transition quickly, setting up Bedard on 2-on-1 and 3-on-1 rushes for the release of his shot. We cannot have one shot, Connor. We need him as a top liner, not to overpass to slow or average skaters, poor shooters, and bad puck handlers. Bedard cannot defer his shot to bum wingers. He needs to be more selfish and shoot first, but his wingers should be the ones rushing pucks out in transition, then entering the offensive zone and dropping passes to Bedard for a shot on goal and scores. Or, if the Hawks possess the puck for a lengthy time in the offensive zone, his wingers need to find him for one-timer releases of that shot. Instead, we are getting one-shot games and him overpassing to not ideal wingers who cannot finish enough goals.

They need to rethink what they are doing with Bedard.
 

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There's something wrong when Foligno is the 1st line winger and leads the team in shots on goal with no points, of course.

We need wingers to set up Bedard for his generational shot, not Bedard trying to set up Foligno and Donato for attempted pretty goals. It's all backwards. Then you get slow Foligno, who is unable to get to his checks as they pass the puck to each other, hemming the Bedard line in a push and causing Bedard to turn over pucks, faking to relieve pressure. Donato is unable to take pucks away to relieve pressure either. The point is, get us two fast but strong wingers to win pucks off the opposition and transition quickly, setting up Bedard on 2-on-1 and 3-on-1 rushes for the release of his shot. We cannot have one shot, Connor. We need him as a top liner, not to overpass to slow or average skaters, poor shooters, and bad puck handlers. Bedard cannot defer his shot to bum wingers. He needs to be more selfish and shoot first, but his wingers should be the ones rushing pucks out in transition, then entering the offensive zone and dropping passes to Bedard for a shot on goal and scores. Or, if the Hawks possess the puck for a lengthy time in the offensive zone, his wingers need to find him for one-timer releases of that shot. Instead, we are getting one-shot games and him overpassing to not ideal wingers who cannot finish enough goals.

They need to rethink what they are doing with Bedard.
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Tgerecisxsinething wring when Foligno is 1LW and leads team in shots ongoal..no pointsxofccourse..

Seewe need wingersxtovsetvup Bedard for his Henerational Shot...not Bedard trying to set up Fokigno and Donato for attempted pretty goals...It iscall backwards..
Then you get slowxFomigno ubabkevto get to his checks as they pass to each other ona string and hemming the Bedard line ina push ....causing Brdard to turn over pucks ..faikingvtobgetbitboutvtovrekueve pressure.Dobato unable to take pucks away tov relieve pressure either.. point is ..get us 2 fast but strong wingers to get pucks off the opps and and transition rush back into the seetying Bedard up on 2on1 abd 3on1 rushes for rekease of hos shot...we cannot have 1 shot Connor...We need him as a top liner not to over pass to slow or average skaters shootersxand poor puck handlers..Bedard cannot defer his shot to bum wingers...he needs to defer and over-psss to little talent wibgers with poor pure shots
...He needs to be more selfish and shoot first..but it should be his wingers who rush pucks out in transition then enter o-zone and juse drop passes to Bedard for shot on goal and scores.Or if Hawks posssess lengthy time pressure in o-zone then hisxwibgers need to find hom for one timer releases of that shot..Instead wexare getting 1 shot Commor ganes and hom over-pasibg to not ideal wingers who cannot finish enough goals off.

They need to rethink what they are doing with Bedard.
You need to rethink about making the effort to post crap like this
 
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Salvaged Ship

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The cup is ALWAYS half full with HF50.

I look at last night's game as a solid team win. I especially liked the play of Allan, Mikheyev and Soder in net. That's 3 wins in a row and the team has some confidence.
They played well, great the first half then were pushed the second half but not sure what some expect, this team does not have the roster to dominate a game start to finish. They are playing hard, competitive most nights, getting some wins.

Bitching about Bedard and Nazar, a 19 and 20 year old, is ridiculous.
 
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