GDT: #11 | Flyers at Senators | November 5, 2022 | 7:00 PM | A Tire Shop on Palladium Drive | SN1, TVAS2, NBSCP, ESPN+, 97.5

[Beef Invictus]

Both Ottawa and Flyers lineups are updated in the OP to reflect today's updates.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Was a big Giroux fan, but Giroux's last good playoffs with the Flyers was 2011-12.

His last four playoffs as a Flyer were subpar, with 3 first-round losses.

And then the second he was on a good team where he couldn't be gameplanned against as one of very few threats, he had a good playoffs. Weird how that works, isn't it? That's how it has always been in this sport, too.

You have to be Ristolainen-level bad for a skater to be blamed for sinking a team. Blaming Giroux when he wasn't anywhere near that level is just another way of absolving the failures up top for always failing.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Good to see we’re doing the “Giroux is the bum and was part of the problem” thing again.

 

[04hockey]

G was as effective as ol' lindy was as capt.

you "youngsters" MISSED the real thing .....

 

[Beef Invictus]

Good to see we’re doing the “Giroux is the bum and was part of the problem” thing again.

Weird how the team is not better without him, then.

 

[Beef Invictus]

G was as effective as ol' lindy was as capt.

you "youngsters" MISSED the real thing .....

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Oh, you mean the guy who did nothing but lose without Parent carrying his team?

Without Parent, Clarke spends his whole retirement being mocked as a worse choker than Dionne. Leadership is a bullshit narrative.

 

[macleish1974]

FLYERS: 5-3-2 (5th in Metro)
Senators: 4-6-0 (8th in Atlantic)

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FLYERS LINEUP:

Farabee-Hayes-Konecny
Cates-Laughton-Tippett
Bellows-Laczynski-MacEwen
Deslauriers-Sedlak-Allison

Provorov-DeAngelo
Sanheim-Ristolainen
Seeler-Zamula

Hart
Sandstrom

1st PP:

Laughton-Hayes-TK
DeAngelo-Tippett

2nd PP:

Allison-Cates-Bellows
Provorov-Farabee

1st PK:

Cates-Farabee
Provoro-DeAngelo

2nd PK:

Hayes-Laughton
Sanheim-Seeler

Injuries:

Atkinson (Day to Year)
JVR (IR)
Anisimov (Lurks)
Brown (IR)
Brink (IR)
Couturier (IR)
Ellis (A stone I died and rose again a plant; A plant I died and rose an animal; I died an animal and was born a man. Why should I fear? What have I lost by death?)

Senators Lineup:

Brady Tkachuk-Stützle-THE Giroux
DeBrincat-Pinto-Batherson
Motte-Brassard-Joseph
Kelly-Kastelic-Watson

Chabot-Brannstrom
Sanderson-Hamonic
Holden-Zaitsev

Forsberg
Hellberg

Injuries:

Talbot (IR)
Norris (IR)
Zub (IR)​

*All images stolen from NHL.com. All lineups based on whatever was last reported by media or last game, supposedly. Beef-Manufactured Lineups are prone to error, ingest with caution. Side effects may include twitching and bile. Information may be updated at random as it arrives*

Ellis (A stone I died and rose again a plant; A plant I died and rose an animal; I died an animal and was born a man. Why should I fear? What have I lost by death?

Lord Byron or Dostoevsky??

BTW.....Torts is a serial liar......thinks the fans are stupid......while hear is one fan who thinks he is an insipid louse....... send him to the OstFront....

 

[Gert B Frobe]

Oh, you mean the guy who did nothing but lose without Parent carrying his team?

Without Parent, Clarke spends his whole retirement being mocked as a worse choker than Dionne. Leadership is a bullshit narrative.

Leadership is like coaching - it helps, and can push a team over the edge if they're good enough. But lack of leadership at the pro level doesn't make that much difference. In the NHL every guy on the team was at one point the best player / leader of a really good team in a very competitive league.

Except for Winnipeg where Wheeler and Scheifele are total dicks and they lose because nobody wants to play with them. And it's Winnipeg - no offence but it's a godforsaken frozen wasteland. If 3 of the top 10 things to do in your town are a river, a park and a museum - your city sucks. (see Pittsburgh)

I want to argue with the people who say Giroux was a disappointment / didn't show up in the playoffs but I already ignored them because they're idiots.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Leadership is like coaching - it helps, and can push a team over the edge if they're good enough. But lack of leadership at the pro level doesn't make that much difference. In the NHL every guy on the team was at one point the best player / leader of a really good team in a very competitive league.

Except for Winnipeg where Wheeler and Scheifele are total dicks and they lose because nobody wants to play with them. And it's Winnipeg - no offence but it's a godforsaken frozen wasteland. If 3 of the top 10 things to do in your town are a river, a park and a museum - your city sucks. (see Pittsburgh)

I want to argue with the people who say Giroux was a disappointment / didn't show up in the playoffs but I already ignored them because they're idiots.

Hey!!! Pittsburgh is a wonderful town.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Leadership is like coaching - it helps, and can push a team over the edge if they're good enough. But lack of leadership at the pro level doesn't make that much difference. In the NHL every guy on the team was at one point the best player / leader of a really good team in a very competitive league.

Except for Winnipeg where Wheeler and Scheifele are total dicks and they lose because nobody wants to play with them. And it's Winnipeg - no offence but it's a godforsaken frozen wasteland. If 3 of the top 10 things to do in your town are a river, a park and a museum - your city sucks. (see Pittsburgh)

I want to argue with the people who say Giroux was a disappointment / didn't show up in the playoffs but I already ignored them because they're idiots.

There are even examples of really good, even championship teams, that would be considered a toxic failure of leadership.

Pro athletes are mercenaries doing a job.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Ellis (A stone I died and rose again a plant; A plant I died and rose an animal; I died an animal and was born a man. Why should I fear? What have I lost by death?

Lord Byron or Dostoevsky??

BTW.....Torts is a serial liar......thinks the fans are stupid......while hear is one fan who thinks he is an insipid louse....... send him to the OstFront....

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Jalal al-din Rumi

 

[deadhead]

Not sure what Ottawa's trying to do,
on the one hand you got Tkachuck #3, Stutzle #3, Sanderson #5, Pinto #32, Brannstrom (Vegas #15), the fruits of tanking.
But they bring in G (35) to go with Hamonic (32), Brassard (35), Holden (35), Zaitsev (31), Watson (31).

When Brassard is your 3C, depth is an issue - which is the problem with top heavy rebuilds, you need some stars, but you also need to draft and develop bottom 6/bottom 3 guys.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Not sure what Ottawa's trying to do,
on the one hand you got Tkachuck #3, Stutzle #3, Sanderson #5, Pinto #32, Brannstrom (Vegas #15), the fruits of tanking.
But they bring in G (35) to go with Hamonic (32), Brassard (35), Holden (35), Zaitsev (31), Watson (31).

When Brassard is your 3C, depth is an issue - which is the problem with top heavy rebuilds, you need some stars, but you also need to draft and develop bottom 6/bottom 3 guys.

This is an admission that Fletcher has done a bad job. Brassard was just our 3C, deep into his tenure.

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Not sure what Ottawa's trying to do,
on the one hand you got Tkachuck #3, Stutzle #3, Sanderson #5, Pinto #32, Brannstrom (Vegas #15), the fruits of tanking.
But they bring in G (35) to go with Hamonic (32), Brassard (35), Holden (35), Zaitsev (31), Watson (31).

When Brassard is your 3C, depth is an issue - which is the problem with top heavy rebuilds, you need some stars, but you also need to draft and develop bottom 6/bottom 3 guys.

Brassard is their 3C because they're missing their 1C, Josh Norris.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Good to see we’re doing the “Giroux is the bum and was part of the problem” thing again.

I was a fan,

Now am a fan of Risto Hayes Seelsy Macewan and Deslaurier

Game
Set
Match

 

[Flyer lurker]

I was a fan,

Now am a fan of Risto Hayes Seelsy Macewan and Deslaurier

Game
Set
Match

Rasmus Ristolainen, Kieffer Bellows and Felix Sandström are getting extra time on the ice after morning skate once everyone else is off. Tortorella would not say who was coming out of the lineup tonight when he spoke before skate, but this would be an indication.

Is 5m for 5 years a good contract when he gets scratched?

 

[bennysflyers16]

Rasmus Ristolainen, Kieffer Bellows and Felix Sandström are getting extra time on the ice after morning skate once everyone else is off. Tortorella would not say who was coming out of the lineup tonight when he spoke before skate, but this would be an indication.

Is 5m for 5 years a good contract when he gets scratched?

Risto is hurt if he’s out of lineup

But I will give Torts props if he healthy scratches that slug.

 

[ybnvs]

I am at the lowest point in my life I have ever felt. Everything I knew and loved and believed is now foreign, lost, and wrong.

I want nothing more than the Flyers to lose everything and to read miserable posts from you all. I want to know, even in a minuscule way like through a dumb sporting event that means nothing in the grand scheme of things that other people are also feeling at least a little bit of misery when I do, because I know there are some people here who love the Flyers.

Yeah yeah, I know - Be thankful for what I have. Sure.

Just someone, please, lend me a time machine or put me out of my misery. I'm far too chicken shit to do that.





Go Sens! Welcome back, G! Missed you buddy.




Edit: I am NOT a sadist.

 

[Canfly]

Talbot gets the start tonight for the Sens as per TSN

 

[Ironmanrulez]

I am at the lowest point in my life I have ever felt. Everything I knew and loved and believed is now foreign, lost, and wrong.

I want nothing more than the Flyers to lose everything and to read miserable posts from you all. I want to know, even in a minuscule way like through a dumb sporting event that means nothing in the grand scheme of things that other people are also feeling at least a little bit of misery when I do, because I know there are some people here who love the Flyers.

Yeah yeah, I know - Be thankful for what I have. Sure.

Just someone, please, lend me a time machine or put me out of my misery. I'm far too chicken shit to do that.





Go Sens! Welcome back, G! Missed you buddy.




Edit: I am NOT a sadist.

sometimes your posts are not clear to me. Did you meant it in a sarcastic way? Or do you really value our community?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Risto is hurt if he’s out of lineup

But I will give Torts props if he healthy scratches that slug.

It would be the first hint of fair accountability in years. Only a hint.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Talbot gets the start tonight for the Sens as per TSN

I'll edit, then

 

[Rebels57]

Hope Giroux goes ham on them

 

[bennysflyers16]

Provy and Mac Attack still on PP

Torts is such a Dino

 

[Ghosts Beer]

no he wont... he will be a roster staple for every game hes not injured for...

Wrong again, Marge!

Looks like Risto is a healthy scratch tonight. Along with Bellows.