Right. Though I wouldn't necessarily call it bad, just underachieving.
What doom and gloom? I think most people here still believe we have a roster that can compete for deep runs and yet we haven't for years. When that happens it is usually the coach who pays the price and in the case of this team I think it would be warranted. If JBB can let Stammer walk - and it was the right thing to do - then giving Coop his walking papers should not be a problem.
We have a hodge podge of late prime/aging stars, meh depth, and scraps. We're not that fast of a team and we don't dig in defensively like we did during the 2020-2022 runs. Idk the identity of this team, there really isn't one.
Except coaches that have Cooper's success rate and track record don't get fired. If he wants to leave, then sure, but JBB and ownership aren't getting rid if him just because of a couple if 1st round exits after 3 straight SCF trips. Every other post on here is spouting how bad the team is/season over/window's closed etc. It's been 14 games lulz, not 54 or 64. It's the same every year after a bad stretch, and while it's both expected and just laughable from some, it's as usual, also way too early. It's a good thing this team isn't one with some decades long Cup drought and not 3 while years, as one could only imagine the level headed tales on here.
And until this year superstars with a track record like Stammers weren't shown the door. The league is changing and allowing coaches to stick around because of their track record (as opposed to their team's current performance) is on it's way out too. Vegas is the new paradigm. Coops message is stale and not working and hasn't been for years. Time to try a different approach.
Stamkos had been struggling considerably and getting worse 5v5. It's a considerably different scenario. Cooper hasn't lost the room by all accounts, and his approach has been successful. A new defensive or maybe special teams coach could be argued for, but getting rid of Cooper 14 games into the season is not. Cooper's seat isn't even a little warm, and it would take either losing the room completely or the team becoming a lottery team this year and continuing into next season for management or ownership to make a move.
btw i looked closer at other teams to try to understand why their bottom can score and ours is so useless and i realized that the problem is not even in the forwards. Other teams have 3-4 defensemen who can move the puck and can shoot the puck. we only have Hedman and 5 dudes who have ZERO offensive talent. And this is a problem because the bottom players usually score dirty goals, right? Tipping the puck or score after a rebound, but they don't have such opportunities when the defensemen can't hit the net.
Moser has more talent than he shows but he tends to stay back more often than not.
Maybe we should judge by the current situation and not by past success? He won cups, but he did it with a stacked team. Now it's a different team and when he is totally outplayed by St. louis and Philadelphia he should leave. Every game is the same, we just wait for the first line to be on the ice and do something on its own. Everyone else just exists. this team has no structure
To be moderately fair to Cooper, the soul has been taken out of the dressing room with the removal of Maroon and to a lesser extent Bogosian & Perry. I understand needing to get younger & in general I'm all for it, but the intangibles of having a solid environment where everyone in that dressing room is held accountable are immense.
Goncalves got his chance and he looks terrible. Duke is the only player who can probably help the team.
yeah i would do that. not that he is much worse than Perbix defensively but definitely much better offensively. Or you can reunite Raddysh with Hedman and move Moser to LD
We already tapped the one solution we had in the farm and that's Geekie. Duke could maybe help the lower six, but I doubt anyone else is ready to come in and make an impact. In spite of that, I wouldn't be surprised if we do see one or two come up only because Girgensons and Atkinson have been so unimpressive.
Again, it was 2 games. Coaches don't get fired over small 2-4 bad games in the regular season.
