Cropduster said:
Flukeshot said:There are so many ifs ands or buts behind that guesstimate. We definitely can all do the same, but the number does come from some bit of ration. If they were in the legal position to, it is not unreasonable to guess that on average the 4th/healthy scratches plus a D from each team would cross. There are 3 healthy scratch players per team which if usually are the AHL callup guys. Anyway, it is then reasonable to think that about 5 guys per 2003-04 pro-roster would cross. 150 guys as a starting point is a decent guess using Dupont's logic.
However there is a HUGE flaw in his thinking. "Small" players, as in 4th liners or the lower paid guys does not equal, players most likely to cross. Why can't a 4th liner making $450,000 a year be a diehard union thumper? There are way too many variables. The player's personal assessment of the circumstance matters most. Does the player judge it to be in his best interest to cross? That is all that matters, regardless of how much he gets paid or whether he is a small, medium or large.
Yes more small players may think that it is better to cross then big players do, but that is not to say that Mike Modano doesn't see his poor dog starving and decides he has to play to keep it alive.
hot airCropduster said:
Nice post. Just like most of your others.mr gib said:hot air
he's just as bad as brooks and strach you guys whine about so much - we'll see what happens when it happens - i'm sure there will be some guys crossing - happy nowryz said:Nice post. Just like most of your others.
I think more players than PA supporters think will cross. Just as an example (obviously not representitive of the whole PA), I know 2 NHLPA members fairly well and speak with them both on a weekly basis. One is a #5-7 defenseman, 26yrs old and says he will cross if it comes down to it. The other is a star, 1st liner and point-per-game player, 24 yrs old that also said he WILL be in camp on day 1 if the NHL comes to accepting replacement players. I garauntee they aren't the only ones. And he won't be the only 'star' player either that is sick of this and will be in an NHL team camp on day 1.
mr gib said:name the players eh? i know some too
The Iconoclast said:Guessing? Dany Heatley and Lance Ward.
PeterSidorkiewicz said:Sidorkiewicz would then be elected to the NHL replacement allstar game and earn his second NHL allstar appearance of all time. It would be breathtaking.
I'm sure you do. Why don't you go and ask them their feelings.mr gib said:name the players eh? i know some too
i know - just goating you - carry onryz said:I'm sure you do. Why don't you go and ask them their feelings.
As per the 2 guys I know, out of respect for their privacy, I obviously don't want to name names.
mr gib said:i know - just goating you - carry on
Cropduster said:
ryz said:Nice post. Just like most of your others.
I think more players than PA supporters think will cross. Just as an example (obviously not representitive of the whole PA), I know 2 NHLPA members fairly well and speak with them both on a weekly basis. One is a #5-7 defenseman, 26yrs old and says he will cross if it comes down to it. The other is a star, 1st liner and point-per-game player, 24 yrs old that also said he WILL be in camp on day 1 if the NHL comes to accepting replacement players. I garauntee they aren't the only ones. And he won't be the only 'star' player either that is sick of this and will be in an NHL team camp on day 1.
ryz said:The other is a star, 1st liner and point-per-game player, 24 yrs old that also said he WILL be in camp on day 1 if the NHL comes to accepting replacement players. I garauntee they aren't the only ones. And he won't be the only 'star' player either that is sick of this and will be in an NHL team camp on day 1.
Flukeshot said: