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Post-Game Talk: #1 - 10/3/19 | jets @ RANGERS

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True Blue said:
Being out against top players is not an excuse for looking out of position. What are my expectations, better play.

It is not, no chances = good, many chances = bad. But play starts with being sound positionaly.

You can like his game, that is fine. I thought he was poor.
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That's fine. You can have an opinion. It wouldn't hurt to point out, specifically, where he was lacking positionally, because I didn't see much of it.
I just think its easy to jump on here and carry on the narrative that some others have started, that Skjei stinks, without pointing out specifics. Stating he wasn't sound "positionally" while keeping opponents scoring chances down, just doesn't make sense.
Now, if Skjei starts to decline and play poorly, I will be the first to say it, but last night, he was just fine.
 
NYRFANMANI said:
I mean this morning, I just saw the highlights on nhl.com and Hank looked like hot doodoo, but only because it's pretty much only the goals against they showed.

Then I got here and saw a 91.5 save% on 4 goals against ... and I was like "giaaad daaayum", that's solid.
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Hank was good, not great. I think the Jets hit him a lot, which is either a testament to Hank's positioning or their lack of accuracy.
FWIW, I only saw one softy against.
 
Another poster pointed that out too, that we didn't command respect in our crease and let Hank be bullied.

Unbelievable, it's been so for Hank's entire career ... why?! Were/are our defensemen such wimps? wtf

I think it comes down to strength and balls. I guess Trouba is the only guy that fits the bill atm. Miller will hopefully be a monster. Robertson maybe?

It's a shame.
 
NYR94 said:
Seeing Trouba play will put things in perspective for some people in regard to where a player like DeAngelo is along the development curve. The Rangers did not have a defenseman of Trouba's caliber last season.
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We also never had a Dman with the offensive caliber of ADA until last season either . He'll be OK...likely will never win the Norris but he will be a good part of the top 4 at least and as good as anybody on the O side of things . I think Trouba has a few more games under his belt at this point than ADA....so the accolades for Trouba are understandable at 8 Million a year . Maybe we review it by season end and see the bang for the buck final numbers .
 
leetch99 said:
We also never had a Dman with the offensive caliber of ADA until last season either . He'll be OK...likely will never win the Norris but he will be a good part of the top 4 at least and as good as anybody on the O side of things . I think Trouba has a few more games under his belt at this point than ADA....so the accolades for Trouba are understandable at 8 Million a year . Maybe we review it by season end and see the bang for the buck final numbers .
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In that case, may I introduce you to Adam Fox.
 
The funny thing is that Trouba himself is all of a year-and-a-half older than ADA, and the guy he was traded for.

It feels like there's more of an age gap there. In my mind it feels like ADA is 22 and Trouba should be closer to 27ish.
 
Gotta love the start Johnny Trouba got...

I agree with Edge, he looks like a veteran out there.
 
I'm not really sure I get where this Hank narrative is coming from- which goals exactly were softies besides the 2nd Wheeler goal? The first goal was a behind-the-net slot pass to Scheifele who absolutely roofed it and shouldn't have been open in the first place. The 3rd was a terrible play by ADA to let Ehlers blow by him and set Wheeler up for an easy royal road tap-in. The 4th was a deflection from point blank by Connor. Even on the third goal, Howden let Wheeler basically walk into the zone untouched and no one bothered to try to prevent him from shooting the puck.

If we're looking outside of that, what about the saves he made on Laine in tight or the save on Scheifele's mini-breakway late in the third. We gave up 15 high-danger scoring chances last night.

Tawnos said:
They were having problems defending wings coming on with speed all night. Their gaps were completely off and forwards in the NZ were out of position.
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I agree, but that wasn't what happened on the play I'm referring too. Morrissey was coming down the center lane and deferred it back to the high right wall to Wheeler. It's more of a structural thing that we consistently yield the blue line to attacking teams. It's frustrating and allows them to enter the zone with way too much momentum.
 
The S5 said:
That's fine. You can have an opinion. It wouldn't hurt to point out, specifically, where he was lacking positionally, because I didn't see much of it.
I just think its easy to jump on here and carry on the narrative that some others have started, that Skjei stinks, without pointing out specifics. Stating he wasn't sound "positionally" while keeping opponents scoring chances down, just doesn't make sense.
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I am not sure what to tell you. Did he throw the puck at another player that led to a goal? No.

Here is what positionally is. How about being on the wrong side of the ice, which leads to scoring chances for the other team? Scheifele is very good, but he moved around like Skjei was not even there.

What else? How about being very slow to clear puck or frankly move fee? To simply chip the puck off the boards with no pressure whatsoever?

He had a few good plays, but overall he was pretty terrible last night.
 
ADA is paid less than 1 mil per

And he will be one of the best values in the entire league by mid season.

2nd line 5v5 mins

PP1 and 2

Solid 5v5

Prob 40 points

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ADA is paid less than 1 mil per

And he will be one of the best values in the entire league by mid season.

2nd line 5v5 mins

PP1 and 2

Solid 5v5

Prob 40 points

value value value
 
Every body is riding high on this win, but this was ugly. We let up 47 shots and got tripled in high danger chances. If Winnepeg had even average goaltending that is a loss.

It took Panarin, Trouba, Zibenejad, and Lundqvist playing at top level, a Winnepeg team not as good as last year, terrible goaltending on the other side, to scrape by with a win.

You cannot win long term with that kind of defense. The defense was atrocious. They will easily be bottom 10 if they play that type of defense.

Positive was Kakko looked really good despite not getting on the scoreboard.
 
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It would be fine if Lias were buried but the other options were established good players.

In this case, the other options are murdering their line.
 
Machinehead said:
As long as I don't notice it :dunno:

I guess it was a good enough game. I'm sure there will be plenty of times where we're down 3-0 and haven't had a shot in 11 minutes and somebody cranks it up. Those people belong in prison.
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There were like 5 or 6 potvin events. Always bums me out that Ranger fans keep the memory of an islander legend alive more than the islanders do. Let him fade to oblivion.
 
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