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GDT: 01/20/25: Kraken vs. Sabres — (4pm EST) Sabres Are So Popular They Got Relegated to 1520AM Today

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SundherDome said:
Sitting has done anything, Quinn has responded but having Kulich out (now back), McLeod and Greenway...you are kinda forced to roll with what ya got. I'd trade Bryson or Jokiharju for whatever I could get and call up Jobst or Murray and tell Peterka, this is on you.
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Mr chain hang em w enough rope already. .I Love releasing or trading jokiharu. And some other dead weight. We need two Rochester guys so Happy to be in nyl to WIN two of these four or season is finished.

Is novikov better. He Hits we need teams to Dread having to get harmed Greenway and kulich are worst losses

One more message right jettison sending jokihsru down as Black Hawks Coach was Right to Take dude not his brother over the frostration of Henri jokeman.

I liked losmam. If he was coached Right but that staff blew w him and his name doomed him playing against CIA coach and sleeze staff and cough Brady who got better giving all the Right plays knowing everything bills were thinking I'm second and all signs and play calls.
 
KiwiGriff said:
The GDTs are getting shorter and shorter. I forgot the game was on. Dialled in to see Tuch score and then McCann. Turned it off again.


Instead of scheduling games between the Sabres and the Kraken, they should just give Seattle 2 points and save everyone the hassle.
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I mean its not fun to watch them. It hasn't been fun for a while but it was still fun to come here and make fun of the team a bit and predict what they could do in the future. Now it's not anymore. The team sucks, nothing is going to change and this board is a quicksand pit of negativity as a result. To be clear, the board being this way is the teams fault, not the posters. People can only take so much.
 
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Quinn peterka w kulich Rosen? vet's gets 60 points

Tage and Tuch if the had evander Kane playing hard every night average over a point and tage more

Benson w Zucker and good vet as THIRD tears up league

Chain Wahlberg Biro Rosen anyone go.to net like kulich
Field all bruisers Gilbert NOVIKOV Murray

Razor punches the crap out of perimeter guys til they like it
 
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Can we have two Fourth lines that hit like Malenstyn and kubel is okay. Is Lafferty hurt.

NOVIKOV and Clifton would be hated
Samuelson getting confidence back can't he or Gilbert play w power and Owen simply skates ouck up ice instead of passing Gilbert or Bryson sits and plays agressive waits to skate and obliterat.turnover

Playing in NHL dream rrousek and two grinders sit cozens til he's so pissed or or is on Zoloft

Filling greeway McLeod kulich and dick Kevyn couldn't get someone like better zucker of Rosen isnt ready and a first vw jokiharu can't we get someone to sit cozens

Psychotic Happy energy q vwt and two ROC players before they all checked out

We were a good older defense star hates to lose for byrum
Two vets they hate zegras and a peca type Guy pissed he's here for two years bit of he is were fooking working and hating losing

I hate you Kevin first injury you needed to trade for someone better Not hang em out to dry like Jason butterill part Deux

Win two games out west at least and play SABRES hockey. Destroy our locker room. F it

Climb one beating check and goal crashing the net and going straight out of hockey hell anyone tough like Wahlbueg on mission to win five or die cozens Krebs or anyone can sit watching deficiencies and fill that or took off.
 
Why the f*** can't we watch the bills inspire winning hockey or help the team take a spill onto IR we have skills where is give games of heart and will tip we get player back and Kevyn doesn't sell low

Fuuuuccckk. I didn't care if I watched the game. I like Good hockey better than football other than Superman
 
SundherDome said:
I don't think getting away from ownership/management is remotely the issue here. These players go to teams that the entire team has bought into playing a system from day one and they hold each other accountable. We can piss and moan about Adams and Pegula but at the end of the day ... It's, again, on the players. The players can barely string together passes, they rifle terrible shots that are nowhere near the net, they rarely attack the net, they have zero idea what to do with the puck when it comes around the boards. When they are in their own end, they have no awareness for where they or other players are. The dmen collapsed at least 4 or 5 times today in which they ended up bumping into Levi and the surprise on their face was laughable. It genuinely feels like they are half implementing Ruff's system because they don't want to pay the physical price of playing it for 60 minutes. It trickles down because of you see your co-workers half assing it, you will prob do the same. Their are a handful of players who bring it every shift and it is glaring.
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Personally I think the players and their shitty performances are a symptom of shit ownership and management. If there are no consequences then players get complacent and stop caring. Ever work somewhere where the boss is checked out and doesn't care? You get a few workers with good work ethic and pride still showing up and working. The rest are also checked out because they aren't being held accountable. That's what I believe we're seeing.

If the players won't buy into a coach's system then most teams would make changes. Bench or even trade players, or fire their coach and bring in one who might be better suited for how the team is built. Yet nothing. Crickets. We get smartass comments about players wanting palm trees. The whole thing stinks of lack of accountability from the top down. I guess it's to be expected. 14 years of ownership and 0 playoff games isn't exactly a result you get from an owner who knows what the hell they're doing.
 
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BB79 said:
Personally I think the players and their shitty performances are a symptom of shit ownership and management. If there are no consequences then players get complacent and stop caring. Ever work somewhere where the boss is checked out and doesn't care? You get a few workers with good work ethic and pride still showing up and working. The rest are also checked out because they aren't being held accountable. That's what I believe we're seeing.

If the players won't buy into a coach's system then most teams would make changes. Bench or even trade players, or fire their coach and bring in one who might be better suited for how the team is built. Yet nothing. Crickets. We get smartass comments about players wanting palm trees. The whole thing stinks of lack of accountability from the top down. I guess it's to be expected. 14 years of ownership and 0 playoff games isn't exactly a result you get from an owner who knows what the hell they're doing.
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The above logic is solid, for normal day to day jobs. These are top in the world players (mostly) that have scouts and fans watching them, every minute of every game. It is much different when you make this kind of money and this visibility. You have to maximize you earning in this timeframe, they shouldn't have this "I'll take a shift off mentality".

Even with shitty management, the goal is to win a cup and get paid. If it were me, I would be in my teammates faces holding them accountable. It's also tough to get people to come to a toxic work environment, the palm trees comment was wildly overblown by fans but we know it's all true. People see it as an excuse when it is a larger driving force. Team like Winnipeg win and still have issues with players wanting to stay/go there.

I would fully expect Adams and Ruff to be here next year and between now and the start of next season, they need to move on from Cozens, Peterka, Joki and Samuelsson. They need to also use that capital to get a dman for Power, a competent 2C and a proven scoring winger. It's a monumental task, hope he is up for it.
 
May Day 10 said:
17 wins in 46 games.

Year 5 of this "management". How can this be allowed to continue? Such a slap in the face of the fans and community
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Depends on what year the plan for success was, first two years were rebuilding years. The 22-23 season was the real problem, everyone exceeded expectations and Adams buying in on it has hurt this team the last two years.
 
this is a weird take, but seeing dahlin score on clappers from the blue line actually annoys me more than anything else about this team. it is unbecoming of his talent that the organization has reduced him to that. It would be like if the oilers used mcdavid primarily by having him dish the puck to zach hyman and go stand in front of the net for rebounds.
 
May Day 10 said:
17 wins in 46 games.

Year 5 of this "management". How can this be allowed to continue? Such a slap in the face of the fans and community
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I think it was on a podcast I was listening to but someone feel free to correct me. But they said something like the Bills have either the same or more home wins than the Sabres do.
 
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SundherDome said:
The above logic is solid, for normal day to day jobs. These are top in the world players (mostly) that have scouts and fans watching them, every minute of every game. It is much different when you make this kind of money and this visibility. You have to maximize you earning in this timeframe, they shouldn't have this "I'll take a shift off mentality".

Even with shitty management, the goal is to win a cup and get paid. If it were me, I would be in my teammates faces holding them accountable. It's also tough to get people to come to a toxic work environment, the palm trees comment was wildly overblown by fans but we know it's all true. People see it as an excuse when it is a larger driving force. Team like Winnipeg win and still have issues with players wanting to stay/go there.

I would fully expect Adams and Ruff to be here next year and between now and the start of next season, they need to move on from Cozens, Peterka, Joki and Samuelsson. They need to also use that capital to get a dman for Power, a competent 2C and a proven scoring winger. It's a monumental task, hope he is up for it.
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Adams: “move on from Cozens, Peterka, Joki, Samuelsson? Best I can do is extend Joki and trade Zucker for a 2nd rounder at the TDL”


it’s beyond obvious he’s not up to the task.
 
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