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It's a great documentary despite the name coming off as kind of a mockery/derogatory to that genre depending on who you ask.
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It's a great documentary despite the name coming off as kind of a mockery/derogatory to that genre depending on who you ask.
nyrage
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I didn't get into them initially because I grew up mostly on underground metal and classic rock. This girl into indie music introduced them to me about 12 years ago and I loved them immediately. Then I got sad that I never got to see them.
Luckily they re-formed and I got to see back in 2017 and I've seen them a bunch of times since then (twice in the past year). I also got to meet them back in 2017 and they were incredibly nice. Neil and I watched the Peter Hook (Joy Division/New Order) set together.
eco's bones
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I had all of Crass's LP's. Some of them disappeared over the years though. I do have this and I do have the box set Christ: The Album. I have a few 45's. Penis Envy was their album where the songs were written and sung by the female members of the group.
They were the original anarcho-punk band. They set the stage for the Subhumans, Conflict and Discharge and even Chumbawamba. Steve (Williams) Ignorant still a teenager attends an early concert by the Clash and Joe Strummer tells the crowd to go out and get some friends and they can make their own bands too. Williams knew this eccentric jazz drummer Penny Rimbaud (Jeremy Ratter) who was in his 30's then---knocked on his door and they started working things out between voice and drumbeat. This band was considered dangerous by the Thatcher regime. Go to wikipedia and type in Thatchergate. Very much anti-nuclear and anti-war. They were now and again subject matter with her officials and in the House of Commons. They created their own record label.....played for free gigs (donations accepted) where they would distribute free soup to whoever. It was a different time of course. They broke up in 1984. Some of their last gigs were to support the miners strike.
Anyway I bought all their stuff at Bleecker Bob's in the village.
nyrage
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Now we're talking. I was silently fuming watching the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Induction yesterday thinking about how Joy Division isn't in, but just about everyone else NOT in Rock N Roll is somehow in it.
eco's bones
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Which only tells me such things are jokes anyway. And it's all too dependent on mass popularity.
I liked Joy Division quite a lot or enough to learn a couple of their songs on guitar anyway. That said there's just two LP's really and a bunch of other songs and some live material on Still. They were really good but they weren't my favorite Manchester band of that era. My favorite was The Fall who are an acquired taste for a lot of people but M. E. Smith was truly a unique character.
nyrage
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Almost all of those awards are bunk even beyond popularity. I worked in the record industry and there was so much shady activity. Radio play could be bought. Film reviews could be bought or even Oscars could be heavily persuaded.
Anyway, ever watch 24 Hour Party People? Great film about the Manchester scene and Factory Records/Joy Division. There is a great scene of a small crowd watching the Sex Pistols, but almost everyone at the show becomes a big part of the Manchester music scene.
Control was another film about Joy Division, but not fun like 24 Hour PP.
eco's bones
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I've seen Control. I should say the first New Order lp which I have is to me almost like a JD album at least music wise. Bernard sings most of the songs. Peter does two or three. It's kind of dark but not quite as far out as JD's second album which depending kind of gets oppressive for me. Suicide is kind of there throughout their two albums but in the second it's front and center a lot more. Quite a large % of people during their lifetimes are going to think somewhat seriously about that at least once during their lifetime. It's not that unique but I think looking at Curtis there were particular reasons unique to him why he did what he did. There's also something I find very very 19th century English poet about him and my heritage is more Irish. I don't know. I like both albums but it's not something I want to listen to all the time.
Between creating horror punk and popularizing the use of rockabilly in punk, the Cramps were an influential band.
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