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“It could go to $9M… Sign Knies first and see what’s leftover… because he’s going to get offer sheeted.”
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Why is it every other team locks these guys up right away and we always wait till the price goes up?
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Aashir Mallik
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I’m taking the 4 1st round picks.
Knies is good, he’s not 2 million dollars less than nylander good
It’s a 3 year bridge, the team or player don’t need to complicate this
Knies is good, he’s not 2 million dollars less than nylander good
It’s a 3 year bridge, the team or player don’t need to complicate this
DarkKnight
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Thanks for all the picks Matthew, best of luck to you buddy.
I guess once these guys get a taste of the Toronto money, it's never enough eh?
thewave
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Toronto player on the rise?! Quick say he is worth an obscene number based on speculation, rumor and narrative building!
He is strong enough to rip the ears off a Gundarr
He is strong enough to rip the ears off a Gundarr
Leafsfan74
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See my chart, he wouldnt qualify for the 4 1st Round Picks.
Im on the record as saying I'd basically allow any player to leave for 4 1st Round picks. In fact, I was hoping Marner would get offered sheeted lol but Dubas gifted him money no team would be foolish enough to give in an RFA. The cap savings on a player has great value as well and I could pry many excellent players with those picks and cap space.
That said, I want Knies to stay here no question. He was an untouchable to me as he came through the system and I am a big fan of his. He could become a real hero in this city with his play. A modern day Gary Roberts but with better teammates. The sky is the limit here no question.
God, this board keeps so many of these people paid. Everyone hears one fear mongering guest and goes crazy.
How many GOOD teams that Knies would consider leaving for have their 1st, 2nd and 3rd?
thewave
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And then Matthews is paid 11.5m and Marner gets 10.9... yep, it's all smoke in Toronto until David Clarkson David Clarkson David Clarkson!!
Leafsfan74
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Yeah I saw that and it almost certainly has a withdrawal clause if he leaves the Canadian market.
I saw this as a real positive sign for Knies wanting to stay here. The guy is playing with a fellow Arizonan who is a mega star in the country, they have Doan here and he is in the biggest hockey market on earth. All signs point to him wanting to stay for every reason one could think of.
This Adidas agreement is basically a sugar laden appeal that allows the Leafs to have greater buying power above the cap limit. Similar to endorsement deals Matthews, Nylander and Marner seems to get with their commercials. You aren't getting endorsements in many hockey markets and they accumulate in some places. Hell, his brother is in one of the ads which means he's even getting rewarded for Matthew Knies hockey career, it's great as a player to be able to reward family who were part of your success in one form or another.
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Stephen
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I thought the Dylan Guenther deal would be a potential comparison with Knies. 8 years, $57 million, over $7 million in AAV.
thewave
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Heck no, money wise Toronto goes from 0 to Kucherov in about 1.5 seasons flat lol
Insanity... 25 goals shooting 21%, while being the obvious 3rd wheel on the line.
On pace for less than 60 points.
Knies is overrated because he is a power forward (still a great player), that discussion was stupid.
On pace for less than 60 points.
Knies is overrated because he is a power forward (still a great player), that discussion was stupid.
ToneDog
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Here's hoping he signs an OS and Leafs match (could be a good thing like the Aho OS).
If he gets a ridiculous OS and you take the picks and Marner walks for nothing, they are f***ed. LOL.
There’s a ton of comparables for this not to get crazy, you have Guenther, you have Boldy, you have Beniers, you have Mercer, you have Byfield, you have McTavish
are we? I thought we could just sign a bunch of UFA’s with the extra cap space and be fine? Hard working ones!
Every single player had more hype and a higher ceiling though... I think they are comparable to an extent.
If he gets offersheeted at 9mil I think it's a pretty easy decision to let him go, especially if it's from a club that's expected to be on or outside the playoff bubble next season. At 9.16mil or above it's a no brainer.
Exactly and those players were 1st rounders too. What I’m saying is I don’t think the leafs will over pay based on the 5 guys I named. A few of them signed bridge deals too,
Ya, I was agreeing with you, there are some comparables, but every single one listed has a better chance of being a superstar over Knies, so I think some potential is built into their contracts where I see a lower ceiling with Knies.
If anything, he should be slightly below those comparables.
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Let's not forget who he is playing with. Similar to Domi last year, he looks like an all star, take him off of the line and he is a mere mortal.
He wouldn't have these number of goals playing with anyone. Just the facts.
He wouldn't have these number of goals playing with anyone. Just the facts.
ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
Easy to replace a soft, perimeter player who can't score and disappears past game 85 and wants $13+m. More difficult to also replace what Knies brings in the playoffs and he still hasn't reached his ceiling at 22.
Even so, I'll take the picks if he signs an OS for $9m. That is not good business.
