Friedman: “Eriksson and Vancouver both want to figure out a trade.”

[Dipsy Doodle]

"No shit"

- Everyone

 

[Lenerdosy]

Eriksson for Ladd straight up?

I would do it at this point. As much as I hate that extra year and 500k isn't much cap hit savings, I am so done with Loui now after his comments in the summer. Problem is Loui's NTC is hanging up everything from the sounds of it.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Three team traded involving Eriksson, Ryan and Ladd?

 

[lauraP]

okposo?

 

[Mr Positive]

Three team traded involving Eriksson, Ryan and Ladd?

any reason why it would be a 3 team trade and not just between two of them?

 

[Langdon Alger]

any reason why it would be a 3 team trade and not just between two of them?

What do you mean? In this scenario Ladd likely goes to Vancouver, Ryan to the NYI and Eriksson to Ottawa.

 

[Mr Positive]

What do you mean? In this scenario Ladd likely goes to Vancouver, Ryan to the NYI and Eriksson to Ottawa.

It's just that the more complexity you add to a trade proposal, the less likely it is. So if Ladd goes to Vancouver, would the Isles so much prefer Ryan over Eriksson? If they would, then for sure, a three team trade might be the best, but I don't see why they'd prefer Ryan so much.

 

[notsocommonsense]

So Van willing to pay a first to get rid of him?

Given the deal w Tampa for miller, the answer to that is NO

I’d sooner bury the entitled SOB

 

[Langdon Alger]

It's just that the more complexity you add to a trade proposal, the less likely it is. So if Ladd goes to Vancouver, would the Isles so much prefer Ryan over Eriksson? If they would, then for sure, a three team trade might be the best, but I don't see why they'd prefer Ryan so much.

Yeah, just thought I’d throw it out there as an idea, but of course three team trades are more complicated as you said.

As for why the Isles might prefer Ryan to Eriksson, I’d say because he had a better year and he’s a bit younger, but I’m not sure the Isles would want either player.

Just a suggestion on a slow day in the summer.

 

[blankall]

Lol wut? I’ll take talking out of my ass without checking facts for $500 Alex!

Lucic buyout next summer is 6years compared to 4 for eriksson. Lucic cap hit over the next 6 years after the buyout is over 14M. Erikssons is over 10M. Even if you take the last 2 years of lucic’s buyout out to make them the same 4 years, Lucic’s Buyout is over 13M over that 4 years. Yes erikssons buyout is a 1M higher for year 1 and marginally higher year 2, there’s a huge difference of 4M for year 3 and then year 4 erikssons is marginally higher and then done whereas Lucic has 2 more years of almost 500k. And that’s only because of the retention.

The buyout for Lucic is
3.2
4.9
3.6
4.9
.5
.5
.5
.5

Eriksson's is
5.5
5.5
3.5
.6
.6
.6

Those 2 years of 5.5 are very tough to swallow. The Lucic buyout pushes the additional year of 4.9 four years down the road. When you're talking cap, the big issues are: delaying and total amount.

 

[me2]

The buyout for Lucic is
3.2
4.9
3.6
4.9
.5
.5
.5
.5

Eriksson's is
5.5
5.5
3.5
.6
.6
.6

Those 2 years of 5.5 are very tough to swallow. The Lucic buyout pushes the additional year of 4.9 four years down the road. When you're talking cap, the big issues are: delaying and total amount.

I don't think you'd win that poll based on buyouts todays, it gets even uglier for you on buyouts at next years window.

 

[Bitz and Bites]

Team wanna get rid of an horrible contract


MORE NEWS AT 6!!!!!!11!1

Umm, yeah.

Thanks for your useful contribution to the thread.

 

[Diamonddog01]

At this point there isn’t much to be done. Loan him to the Texas Stars and buy him out in two years. Sucks for all parties but what can you do.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Alzner for Eriksson?

 

[Langdon Alger]

At this point there isn’t much to be done. Loan him to the Texas Stars and buy him out in two years. Sucks for all parties but what can you do.

If Lucic can be traded there’s hope for the Canucks trying to move Eriksson.

 

[Cancuks]

Send him to Utica, healthy scratch every game. By year two he'll probably retire.

 

[blankall]

I don't think you'd win that poll based on buyouts todays, it gets even uglier for you on buyouts at next years window.

Both are pretty awful contracts that cannot be bought out, so it's a moot point.

I was responding to a poster that stated the Canucks might have to take on Lucic's contact as a last resort. The main point is that there's no way the Flames would ever other that option.

 

[LMFAO]

Umm, yeah.

Thanks for your useful contribution to the thread.

Yours was one for the living too

 

[blankall]

Send him to Utica, healthy scratch every game. By year two he'll probably retire.

No way he retires until after he collects his signing bonus, prior to the last year of his contract.

 

[vanuck]

It's insane how awful the Nucks are at cap management:

Player	AAV	Years Remaining
Loui Eriksson	$6 mil	3
Tyler Myers	$6 mil	5
Brandon Sutter	$4.375 mil	2
Tanner Pearson	$3.75 mil	2
Antoine Roussel	$3 mil	3
Jay Beagle	$3 mil	3
Tim Schaller	$1.9 mil	1

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

They're a rebuilding team, with lots of their top talent on rookie deals, and they're still in cap hell because they give out non-stop terrible contracts to scrubs. The above 7 players are costing them over $28 mil in cap hit, most of that locked in for 3+ years, and the only one who's deserves more than about $1.5 mil/year is Myers. They're paying replacement level players like core pieces, and didn't even save enough $$ to sign a true core piece in Boeser.

I really like Vancouver's young talent (Pettersson, Boeser, Horvat, Hughes, Demko, Podkolzin, etc.), but they need to get rid of Benning SO badly. It's inexcusable for a rebuilding team to be locked into cap hell for the next 3 years due to consistently overpaying scrubs like crazy.

THANK YOU for saying this.

 

[Oleksiak]

Send him to Utica, healthy scratch every game. By year two he'll probably retire.

Make sure his roommate on the road snores.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Staal and Smith for Eriksson

 

[Bitz and Bites]

Make sure his roommate on the road snores.

And has a flatulence problem.

 

[Bitz and Bites]

Yours was one for the living too

Whatever.I’m not the one that interrupted an actual discussion with a pointless post.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Its not happening, he'll come to Canucks camp & end up in Utica at some point.

The fact its a non-playoff team, 2nd fewest points the last 4 years, and we are close to capped out is sad.