I know a few others quoted you already but it's been said by a lot of people that this is a weak year in general, specifically in all countries besides Canada. Which non-Canadian do you think is that much of an outlier here, that needs to be in the first round.
Nothing angry in my post.
How does an American player who wasn’t picked last year because he was cut for some of those YEARS YOUNGER American players and viewed by them as the worst forward on the team end up ahead in the draft rankings this year of those players? It seems like something is wrong with this equation.
Oh yes, always a weak year to stuff the coffers with Canadian and CHL players. Then those “weak years” for other countries beat Canada at the main international tournaments for these age groups and achieve better success relative to draft position.
Of course there’s major bias. No one knows that far in advance. And of course you didn’t answer my point about all these bums that got drafted ahead of Cole Hutson. What’s the reason for that?
It is two years. It does seem a bit premature to be dancing on the grave of Canadian junior players. A lot of internal issues have gone into these last two years but I don’t see how anything you said refutes my original point? As for Hutson…I think that has a lot more to do with NHL teams having a tendency to over rate size over any kind of nationality bias. There is zero good reason for an NHL team to give a damn where a player was born.
Well no, we are talking about 4 years. 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007.
I mean at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter though? Like as long as you get drafted….if you are that good then you will show that over time. I’m also not sure why the NHL would be biased to Canadian players? I don’t think it is a conspiracy I think Canada just still has a larger quantity of players.
Sure, it matters how well you play after you get drafted, but it does become a little crooked when Canada’s share of NHL success goes down every year and their share of at least the top NHL draft picks goes up. It can be demoralizing for these players from countries other than Canada I’m sure when they know that they have to perform that much better than the Canadians and it’s demoralizing for fans to know that our players are not going to be valued fairly and will be drafted in slots where the odds say they are longer shots to succeed than their level of play and potential suggests.
Here's a list of some Americans that got drafted before Jordan Kyrou:
Oh stop, you’re just being dishonest. I told you the players drafted right ahead of him.
I am still just not sure exactly what an NHL front office has to gain out of propping up Canadian players?
They are biased. NHL front offices are overwhelmingly Canadian.
I mean....maybe? I guess I just don't see what is to gain by dominating the draft? They don't hand out medals for having the most 1st rounders lol in the end it all comes out in the wash based off of what happens on the ice. If a player falls because of some preconceived bias....some NHL team is getting lucky. The player will still get their full NHL career.
I think scouts are just averse to small puck moving defensemen, it’s not a whole conspiracy. He definitely had a better u18 than Eliasson and Emery and was still picked behind them. Hell, even Kleber who didn’t even make the NTDP was taken in front of him. It’s a general philosophical groupthink that leads to him or his brother falling further than they should, not whatever passport they have. Apart from Basha, the players you listed would be described as not small players, and NHL teams get too hyper focused on that
All the Americans systemically fell as we got closer to the draft, so I’m not buying it was due to his size.
100%. These goobers are probably still looking for box scores in their local newspaper.
