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[LemonSauceD]

I have nothing against ShanaPlan B or Seldom Queef

But watching the Leafs lose was super super fun


Marner to... ?

Marner to anywhere but us lol

 

[VanillaCoke]

Y'all are thinking about it backwards from the jump, forget the 3c nonsense label.
Does joshua garland lindholm play or produce like a third line?

Sign Lindholm and you have arguably three 1C.
All near enough selke level, all pk1 & pp1 level.

It's top 3(2?) Down the middle in the league, and tocchet clearly loves it.

(also Baby Pettersson f***s.)

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Possibly, but it will be a bit of a push under Tocchet's watch. He clearly views Lindholm as a centre and likes the depth down the middle of Miller/Pettersson/Lindholm. The trick will be addressing Pettersson's wing in that scenario while also finding cap space to extend Lindholm. Not to mention all the other free agents.

Which is the problem. Tocchet just seems obsessed with the three center idea despite it not being a good long term solution. We were pretty mediocre after the allstar break. Not bad by any means just decidedly average outside of a few spots. Us finishing top of the division was in large part to how insane we started. Everyone was popping off with shooting percentages they likely won't keep.

Even squeezing very team friendly deals for the likes of Tanev (3.25M), Joshua (3M), Toffoli (4.25M), I just couldn't fit everyone in. We're either losing Lindholm, Zadorov or Joshua on the UFA side. Or we're trading Hronek. Moving Garland makes zero sense now.

In my opinion, Joshua and Zadorov should be the main priority. I'm hoping we can get them to take longer dollar amounts in exchange for term. Give Joshua 4-5 years and maybe 3M is doable. Same with Zadorov at the 4.5/5M range.

From there, we need to look at the possibility of Guentzel, or the lesser option in Toffoli or Bertuzzi. If we can nap any one of them, that takes a higher precedence than Lindholm imo.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Guetzel 8 - Miller 8 - Boeser 6.6

Hoglander 1.1 - Pettersson 12- Lindholm 8

Joshua 2.8 - Suter 1.9 - Garland 4.9

Podkolzin .925 - Aman .825 - Bains- .925



Hughes 7.8 - Hronek 7.5

Soucy 3.2 - Tanev 4.5

xxx- Juulsen .700



Demko - 5

xxx



OEL 2.3



Total 87Mill Ish

This is just a rough draft and not what I expect but just proving that we can remain flexible this offseason and I think we are gonna see some bigger moves than everyone thinks.

I would rather keep Zadorov over Hronek and move Tanev up to Hughes side.

Joshua will get 3.5mil.

I could see Guentzel signing a cap friendly deal with Carolina (AAV of 9 mil?). Would think it would take way more to bring him up here.

 

[TruGr1t]

Which is the problem. Tocchet just seems obsessed with the three center idea despite it not being a good long term solution. We were pretty mediocre after the allstar break. Not bad by any means just decidedly average outside of a few spots. Us finishing top of the division was in large part to how insane we started. Everyone was popping off with shooting percentages they likely won't keep.

Even squeezing very team friendly deals for the likes of Tanev (3.25M), Joshua (3M), Toffoli (4.25M), I just couldn't fit everyone in. We're either losing Lindholm, Zadorov or Joshua on the UFA side. Or we're trading Hronek. Moving Garland makes zero sense now.

In my opinion, Joshua and Zadorov should be the main priority. I'm hoping we can get them to take longer dollar amounts in exchange for term. Give Joshua 4-5 years and maybe 3M is doable. Same with Zadorov at the 4.5/5M range.

From there, we need to look at the possibility of Guentzel, or the lesser option in Toffoli or Bertuzzi. If we can nap any one of them, that takes a higher precedence than Lindholm imo.

I don't think you can realistically keep Hronek and Lindholm. That will just leave too many holes elsewhere. If they're serious about Lindholm, they probably have to find another partner for Hughes.

 

[ziploc]

If Lindholm is somehow kept, I see no reason for him not to centre the second line with EP, and Blueger to centre the third with Garland and Joshua. I seem to recall that line working pretty well.

Likely would mean both Mikh and Hronek have to be dealt.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I don't think you can realistically keep Hronek and Lindholm. That will just leave too many holes elsewhere. If they're serious about Lindholm, they probably have to find another partner for Hughes.

Agreed. Which I'm not against either. If we can bring Tanev back, he might be the perfect stopgap for Willander. Not to mention, we'll get back decent assets for Hronek.

That all said, I think this only happens if Hronek insists on 8M.

 

[Grip it N RYP it]

Marner to anywhere but us lol

August 1st, 2024:

"Why would we add more to Marner, he's the better player!? Petterson and Hoglander, bro, minimum."

"EP had half a bad year and..."

"You Canucks are out of your minds. Marner is supreme and warrants 10 draft picks and all of your swedish prospects, plus your first born and the top shelf peanut butter in your dumb west coast cupboards."

Me - "This is EA Sports thread, man."

 

[Bobby9]

Guetzel 8 - Miller 8 - Boeser 6.6
Hoglander 1.1 - Pettersson 12- Lindholm 8
Joshua 2.8 - Suter 1.9 - Garland 4.9
Podkolzin .925 - Aman .825 - Bains- .925


Hughes 7.8 - Hronek 7.5
Soucy 3.2 - Tanev 4.5
xxx- Juulsen .700

Demko - 5

Suter - JT - Boeser = 16.35M
Hog-EP-Marchessault = 18.25M
Joshua-Chand-Garland 12.9M

Hughes - **** = 7.8M
Soucy -Zad = 8.2M
Dillon - Myers - 6M

Demko = 5M

74.5 M

March = 5-5.5M x 5
Chand = 5-5.5M x 5
Dak = 3M x 4
Zad = 5M x 5
Dillon and Myers = 3m each

Still need a top RHD

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

Which is the problem. Tocchet just seems obsessed with the three center idea despite it not being a good long term solution. We were pretty mediocre after the allstar break. Not bad by any means just decidedly average outside of a few spots. Us finishing top of the division was in large part to how insane we started. Everyone was popping off with shooting percentages they likely won't keep.

Even squeezing very team friendly deals for the likes of Tanev (3.25M), Joshua (3M), Toffoli (4.25M), I just couldn't fit everyone in. We're either losing Lindholm, Zadorov or Joshua on the UFA side. Or we're trading Hronek. Moving Garland makes zero sense now.

In my opinion, Joshua and Zadorov should be the main priority. I'm hoping we can get them to take longer dollar amounts in exchange for term. Give Joshua 4-5 years and maybe 3M is doable. Same with Zadorov at the 4.5/5M range.

From there, we need to look at the possibility of Guentzel, or the lesser option in Toffoli or Bertuzzi. If we can nap any one of them, that takes a higher precedence than Lindholm imo.

I like having 3 strong centres in theory. You really need good winger depth and probably contributors on ELCs like Dallas to really make it work though or you end up watering down at least 1 line. That’s what we’ve seen here the last few years with Pettersson playing with wingers like Mikheyev and Beuvillier. Also if it takes 7x7 to keep Lindholm than he can get it somewhere else.

 

[wonton15]

Mikheyev is good as gone. They probably run Juulsen full time next year, too. I still can’t see a world where Lindholm makes too much sense given our weakness in scoring wingers. The issue is the value he brings down the middle and the likely reluctance Tocchet already has and will have in moving him onto the second or first line.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

I’m probably in fantasy land here, but players I’d base a Hronek trade around:

-Benson

-Clarke or Kempe

-Crouse

-Andersson (would need to be a 3-way deal for it to make sense for Calgary) - same with Sanheim

-Jarvis/Necas

An interesting name is Theodore, who’s $5.2 mill contract ends next year. Vegas might struggle with their cap given the Hertl and Hanifin contracts, and might not be able to afford Theodore on his new deal.

 

[Peen]

I mean, they’re going to have to pay to dump Mikheyev this summer. We are asset poor.

Lindholm is a guy the coach likes.

Getting something for Hronek means you can get out of Mikheyev.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Joshua is probably around $3.5M AAV I'd think, while Lindholm won't make $8M AAV at this point, probably about $1-1.5M less.

In this scenario, I suspect you'd see the Suter-Miller-Boeser line stay together and the Lindholm line. Guentzel would line-up with Pettersson and Hoglander. That may also be a too low AAV for Guentzel, but he doesn't have to be the winger in that equation.

Ya didn't have the numbers exact nor put much thought into the lines. Just a rough draft to show we can make some moves.

 

[credulous]

An interesting name is Theodore, who’s $5.2 mill contract ends next year. Vegas might struggle with their cap given the Hertl and Hanifin contracts, and might not be able to afford Theodore on his new deal.

how does trading theodore for hronek save vegas money?

 

[Vector]

how does trading theodore for hronek save vegas money?

I would assume you trade Hronek for picks and prospects then flip those for Theodore.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

I'm bored so let's try this again. Fantasy while trying to be realistic. Trade Hronek for a 1st, 2nd ect. Use a pick to dump Mikheyev. Sign Guentzel and Tanev as UFAs.

Suter 1.9 - Miller 8 - Boeser 6.6

Guentzel 8 - Pettersson 11.6 - Hoglander 1.1

Joshua 3 - Lindholm 7 - Garland 4.9

Podkolzin .925 - Raty .825 - Lekkerimaki .950



Hughes 7.8 - Tanev 4.5

Soucy 3.2 - Myers 4

Zadorov 5 - Juulsen .700


Demko - 5
Silovs - 1


OEL 2.3
Total 87.8ish

Again need to massage the cap a bit and don't have any extra players on roster but certainly possible.

 

[Aqualung]

Utah casually announces building of a practice facility with two rinks. Meanwhile Canucks are now behind what once was a joke of a franchise.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

how does trading theodore for hronek save vegas money?

He doesn’t, I should have worded it differently. I’m saying maybe the Canucks have a shot at him as a UFA.

 

[credulous]

He doesn’t, I should have worded it differently. I’m saying maybe the Canucks have a shot at him as a UFA.

oh maybe. the canucks have a challenge in the 2025 offseason though because the only significant money they lose is boeser and the oel cap hit goes up another 2.5m. if they cap out this summer (and i see no reason they wouldn't) they won't have more than ~8m in 2025 and hoglander will be up for a new deal

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

I like having 3 strong centres in theory. You really need good winger depth and probably contributors on ELCs like Dallas to really make it work though or you end up watering down at least 1 line. That’s what we’ve seen here the last few years with Pettersson playing with wingers like Mikheyev and Beuvillier. Also if it takes 7x7 to keep Lindholm than he can get it somewhere else.

That's my take as well. If Lekkerimaki was on the cusp of being NHL ready and showed the potential to be an impact player already, we could potentially take the gamble of three strong centers. Right now, we'd just be forcing another season on Pettersson to have lackluster support.

 

[Jerry the great]

Suter - JT - Boeser = 16.35M
Hog-EP-Marchessault = 18.25M
Joshua-Chand-Garland 12.9M

Hughes - **** = 7.8M
Soucy -Zad = 8.2M
Dillon - Myers - 6M

Demko = 5M

74.5 M

March = 5-5.5M x 5
Chand = 5-5.5M x 5
Dak = 3M x 4
Zad = 5M x 5
Dillon and Myers = 3m each

Still need a top RHD

you're 7 depth players (and a top pair D) short of a 23 man roster and missing the OEL dead cap hit of 2.35MM. even if you only factor in $900k per depth player you're at $83.15MM before filling that #1RD hole.

 

[Nucker101]

you're 7 depth players (and a top pair D) short of a 23 man roster and missing the OEL dead cap hit of 2.35MM. even if you only factor in $900k per depth player you're at $83.15MM before filling that #1RD hole.

Marchessault at 5.5 also a big lol

 

[Vector]

Is Hiring Travis Green the canary in the coalmine for the Senators making stupid moves? Let's hope!

ZUB! ZUB! ZUB! ZUB!

Joseph

 

[VanillaCoke]

Mik (+Hronek?) to Ottawa pls thx