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[CBJWerenski8]

Kings fans aren’t big fans of PLD

 

[Aaaarrgghh]

Kings fans aren’t big fans of PLD

Does he have any fans whatsoever at this stage?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Does he have any fans whatsoever at this stage?

That being said, if LA would take Laine straight up for him or Elvis with some retention….

 

[Viqsi]

That being said, if LA would take Laine straight up for him or Elvis with some retention….

I probably still wouldn't. That's not the sort of attitude I'd want around here.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

I probably still wouldn't. That's not the sort of attitude I'd want around here.

Fair. I just, for whatever reason, still have a like for the player, even if the person inside is a complete ass.

Kinda fits what we need too.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Fair. I just, for whatever reason, still have a like for the player, even if the person inside is a complete ass.

Kinda fits what we need too.

I agree with all this - but the problem is that he profiles as what we need but doesn't actually bring it.

 

[Viqsi]

Fair. I just, for whatever reason, still have a like for the player, even if the person inside is a complete ass.

Kinda fits what we need too.

I'm more concerned about the people inside for the sake of the kids... which is why my silly daydream that shouldn't be considered involves bringing back Atkinson.

 

[Cowumbus]

Kings fans aren’t big fans of PLD

Marek talking about him on his show today.

 

[Jovavic]

I feel this needs posted again

 

[CharlotteJacket]

Marek talking about him on his show today.

And?

 

[Cowumbus]

And?

To paraphrase, basically says he’s not sure what PLD is as a player. Is he a 2-way guy, is he a power forward, is he a skill guy that will put up a lot of points? Nobody really knows and he hasn’t shown a great ability to be any of those things outside of short stretches. Later he added on the question of how long of questioning coaching/system before we question the player? It didn’t work in Cape-Breton and we blame the coach, Columbus we say it’s Torts, Winnipeg it’s the system, LA what do we blame now? Is he a guy that teammates like? To commit that much money to a player it seems like that is something to vet out. Not sure of how he was seen in the CBJ locker room, but many in WPG see him leaving as “addition by subtraction.” Contrary to what some may believe, due to what the NHL considers its year, a PLD buyout would be at 2/3 the cap, not 1/3 like it is for normal u26 players.
- Marek

 

[majormajor]

To paraphrase, basically says he’s not sure what PLD is as a player. Is he a 2-way guy, is he a power forward, is he a skill guy that will put up a lot of points? Nobody really knows and he hasn’t shown a great ability to be any of those things outside of short stretches. Later he added on the question of how long of questioning coaching/system before we question the player? It didn’t work in Cape-Breton and we blame the coach, Columbus we say it’s Torts, Winnipeg it’s the system, LA what do we blame now? Is he a guy that teammates like? To commit that much money to a player it seems like that is something to vet out. Not sure of how he was seen in the CBJ locker room, but many in WPG see him leaving as “addition by subtraction.” Contrary to what some may believe, due to what the NHL considers its year, a PLD buyout would be at 2/3 the cap, not 1/3 like it is for normal u26 players.
- Marek

PLD was actually good in Columbus for almost his whole time here. Usually not great but he was fine. He was either a top six power forward or a low end #1C, it wasn't that much of a mystery for us.

His first year in Winnipeg was horrible. He blamed conditioning. Then he was pretty good for the rest of his tenure in Winnipeg. He may have also been a problem in the room, I don't know, but the on-ice play was relatively good in the last two years.

Then another horrible year in L.A.

His type as a player is not that hard to figure out. It really is just his disappearing act. And is he bad in the locker room? Not someone who trains properly? Those are the questions.

 

[KallioWeHardlyKnewYe]

Gonna be funny when he finally slouches his way to Montreal and they turn on him within 10 games.

 

[squashmaple]

Gonna be funny when he finally slouches his way to Montreal and they turn on him within 10 games.

Habs fans have already turned on him and he’s still a King.

 

[EspenK]

To paraphrase, basically says he’s not sure what PLD is as a player. Is he a 2-way guy, is he a power forward, is he a skill guy that will put up a lot of points? Nobody really knows and he hasn’t shown a great ability to be any of those things outside of short stretches. Later he added on the question of how long of questioning coaching/system before we question the player? It didn’t work in Cape-Breton and we blame the coach, Columbus we say it’s Torts, Winnipeg it’s the system, LA what do we blame now? Is he a guy that teammates like? To commit that much money to a player it seems like that is something to vet out. Not sure of how he was seen in the CBJ locker room, but many in WPG see him leaving as “addition by subtraction.” Contrary to what some may believe, due to what the NHL considers its year, a PLD buyout would be at 2/3 the cap, not 1/3 like it is for normal u26 players.
- Marek

CapFriendly disagrees...but it has to be done quickly as he turns 26 on June 24.

 

[Cowumbus]

CapFriendly disagrees...but it has to be done quickly as he turns 26 on June 24.

Just reporting what Friedman and Marek are sayin!

Buyout window is 24-48 hours after cup final.

 

[EspenK]

Just reporting what Friedman and Marek are sayin!

Buyout window is 24-48 hours after cup final.

Buyout starts the later of 48 hours after SC is awarded or June 15. For the Kings to beat the deadline the remaining series have to be over quickly.

Buyouts | Puckpedia

No mention of season stuff. Someone posted that Friedman said he wasn't sure about that.

If the Kings can do the 1/3 bit they should. If they don't they are dumber than what they appear to be.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

PLD getting bought out would be absolutely incredible lol

also the leafs forcing game 7 with max domi as their temporary 1C is hilarious and undermines the notion that you "can't win with" bad defensive forwards. i wasn't a fan of domi when he was here but it's really frustrating in hindsight that torts and larsen more or less refused to ever play him at center.

 

[MissADD]

I know for Columbus one player is gone and has been off the ice for various reasons since he has been here, but how both Columbus and Winnipeg got multiple decent players for PLD is amazing.

 

[Jovavic]

Someone check on Visqi, that Preds series was a tough one

 

[Viqsi]

Someone check on Visqi, that Preds series was a tough one

f***in latvians, man. latvian f***in goaltenders.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

CBJ inadequacy syndrome: Ferraro talking about the Nylander family and says “his brother Alex is…” *looooong pause* “still out there plugging away.”

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Ain't that a bitch of a rebound straight to Pastarnak off the boards. Not much Samsonov could do about that.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Ain't that a bitch of a rebound straight to Pastarnak off the boards. Not much Samsonov could do about that.

Set play - great work by Lindholm

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Set play - great work by Lindholm

you can call it a set play but you have to hit the boards just right to get it to bounce in front of the next like that if it was truly done on purpose.

I've never seen a CBJ player try that on purpose.