Confirmed with Link: Jean-François Houle Extended (updated post #531) - Laperriere & Marciano Also Extended

Should Houle be brought back?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 33.7%
  • No

    Votes: 55 66.3%

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Estimated_Prophet

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wow, that’s a missed opportunity? Other programs are moving forward & the Rocket are stuck listening to the same old song & dance. Reminds me of the Therrien days… management telling the fans “yeah but this year will be different”? Houle fanboys telling us well, he is just coaching the way he’s told….great not only is he a below average coach but he’s also feckless, awesome!! I guess we should prepare ourselves for another year of breathtakingly spectacular PP coaching from the “specialist coach” Burrows?

So Hughes and Gorton are fanboys and the the couch Gm's are the objective one's lol.....ok :help:
 

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Why is any of this surprising? Hughes & Houle’s relationship goes black 30-years.
So … it’s mostly based on who knows who?

Like every other management appointee, essentially.

Similar rationale as to why Burrows has a job or has the job he has. What classes did Bouillon do before he got his current job? What coaching experience did MSL have?

Now, some of these appointees end up working out but all too often, there is no meritocracy motivating their hiring and that’s one of the most predictable of NHL practices.
 

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So … it’s mostly based on who knows who?

Like every other management appointee, essentially.

Similar rationale as to why Burrows has a job or has the job he has. What classes did Bouillon do before he got his current job? What coaching experience did MSL have?

Now, some of these appointees end up working out but all too often, there is no meritocracy motivating their hiring and that’s one of the most predictable of NHL practices.

Nepotism.

It can work if those in charge remains focused on the goal, but it can backfire big time too if they're too 'buddy-buddy'. It's a dangerous game.
 
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So … it’s mostly based on who knows who?

Like every other management appointee, essentially.


Similar rationale as to why Burrows has a job or has the job he has. What classes did Bouillon do before he got his current job? What coaching experience did MSL have?

Now, some of these appointees end up working out but all too often, there is no meritocracy motivating their hiring and that’s one of the most predictable of NHL practices.
How is it any different than the real world?

That’s the way life works, people in leadership bring in people they know & trust (their team), all one can ask is the leaders are capable enough to assess competency & proper fit for a role - HuGo obviously feel they’ve build a competent hockey ops team

There’s no way Hughes takes his summer camp “business” he cultivated & grew w his brother and just hand it to some schmuck to destroy profitability - when Houle took over they had confidence he could keep growing it, by doing a good job cultivating & growing prospects, which he did. That’s likely was enough to establish Houle’s credibility
 
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How is it any different than the real world?

That’s the way life works, people in leadership bring in people they know & trust (their team), all one can ask is the leaders are capable enough to assess competency & proper fit for a role - HuGo obviously feel they’ve build a competent hockey ops team
The big difference is that the NHL operates in a self-contained chamber where there are a select number of candidates for every opportunity but where the track records of those candidates tend to be widely known across NHL orgs.

This type of intel is not as widely known to potential employers in the real world and in major corporate settings there will be a modicum of due diligence, that is all too often set aside when the likes of Chiarelli and other incompetents keep getting opportunities.

Plus, in the real world, there tend to be more stringent and recurring performance reviews whereas lame-ass nepo appointees tend to languish for years before ownership finally wakes up.
 

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The big difference is that the NHL operates in a self-contained chamber where there are a select number of candidates for every opportunity but where the track records of those candidates tend to be widely known across NHL orgs.

This type of intel is not as widely known to potential employers in the real world and in major corporate settings there will be a modicum of due diligence, that is all too often set aside when the likes of Chiarelli and other incompetents keep getting opportunities.

Plus, in the real world, there tend to be more stringent and recurring performance reviews whereas lame-ass nepo appointees tend to languish for years before ownership finally wakes up.
And the Wall Street isn’t, or corporate world in general isn’t?

JP Morgan is a Princeton company
Goldman Sachs is a Harvard company
Google is a Stanford, and MIT company

Etc
 
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And the Wall Street isn’t, or corporate world in general isn’t?

JP Morgan is a Princeton company
Goldman Sachs is a Harvard company
Google is a Stanford, and MIT company

Etc
Who said anything about Wall Street? The discussion was about the real world. I don’t believe Wall Street represents it. The comment was more about a much larger hiring base that doesn’t necessarily have tentacles that limit hiring decisions the way the NHL’s nepo chamber does.

Anyway, this is going nowhere and getting into a multi-post exchange that will not resolve anything so I’m moving on.
 
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Nepotism.

It can work if those in charge remains focused on the goal, but it can backfire big time too if they're too 'buddy-buddy'. It's a dangerous game.
I think you need to differentiate between someone getting the job solely based on the personal relationship.

As opposed to someone getting it because of the element of trust because of the personal relationship.

In the case of Houle, I feel that KH wants someone who will follow the organization's wishes in terms of playstyle and deployment, and prefers someone he knows and trusts not to freelance to pad his personal resume like Boucher and Bouchard did.
 
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I think they just don't want to change coaching staff in the middle of a rebuild and disrupt it for a year while everyone adjusts.
 

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By the way, Sylvain Lefebvre is going to his second straight Cup Finals as an assistant-coach with Florida.
 
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By the way, Sylvain Lefebvre is going to his second straight Cup Finals as an assistant-coach with Florida.
I remember way back when Pat Burns talked about how he liked Lefebvre as an assistant.
He should never lead anything though.
 
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I disagree with that assessment. Offence was not the issue, they were in the top7 of the league for pretty much the whole season.

What they needed is to stop breaking down defensively.
You aren’t wrong and I agree about the team D, but because they were so close, a couple more goals probably would have made the difference. It’s not like they missed by 10 points.
 

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