Prospect Info: General Discussion of Prospects

[SnuggaRUDE]

Not arguing with you but are there 14 teams with better 3rd or 4th forward prospects

I'm not sure there are, but there wouldn't need to be for the Sabres to ranked 14th. There are teams with better #1-3 prospects.

 

[Ace]

Bader said that in his model Benson and Levi still counted.

In this example their third of fourth best prospect are Savoie or Kulich

Rosen is sixth. And the model is stupid

 

[joshjull]

Bader listed his methodology after that rankings tweet.

It would be an understatement to say there is a lot of subjectivity in his “data” driven model.

 

[joshjull]

 

[TheMistyStranger]

 

[Fjordy]

 

[sabremike]

"Hopefully one day soon Byron Bader will hear a loud popping sound: The sound of his head popping out of his ass."

 

[Chainshot]

Kinda crazy that all three CHL finals were sweeps:

 

[Old Navy Goat]

Kinda crazy that all three CHL finals were sweeps:

Did he give any juicy tidbits as most tsn videos don't work over here

 

[Chainshot]

Did he give any juicy tidbits as most tsn videos don't work over here

Not really, just going over how it is the first time ever that all three league championship series were sweeps.

 

[Snippit]

Will be rooting for London but good to see Savoie and Komarov make it

 

[Fly Boy]

Good news everyone! I had no idea the Memorial Cup was in Saginaw, Michigan this year. That's only about 2 hours from where I live and the GF's parents reside 30 min from the stadium. Needless to say I got pretty lucky having a few days off, so I'll be going to the games on the 27th and 28th. London vs Moose Jaw and Drummondville vs Moose Jaw. That's 2 Savoie games, 1 Komarov and a nice look at Dickenson. Super pumped!

 

[Willgamesh]

Good news everyone! I had no idea the Memorial Cup was in Saginaw, Michigan this year. That's only about 2 hours from where I live and the GF's parents reside 30 min from the stadium. Needless to say I got pretty lucky having a few days off, so I'll be going to the games on the 27th and 28th. London vs Moose Jaw and Drummondville vs Moose Jaw. That's 2 Savoie games, 1 Komarov and a nice look at Dickenson. Super pumped!

Enjoy it man, seems like an awesome time.

 

[Chainshot]

Good news everyone! I had no idea the Memorial Cup was in Saginaw, Michigan this year. That's only about 2 hours from where I live and the GF's parents reside 30 min from the stadium. Needless to say I got pretty lucky having a few days off, so I'll be going to the games on the 27th and 28th. London vs Moose Jaw and Drummondville vs Moose Jaw. That's 2 Savoie games, 1 Komarov and a nice look at Dickenson. Super pumped!

I've enjoyed games but it's been since Mississauga hosted since I have been. That was McNabb's Kelowna team, suspension year.

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

I'm 90% sure it's PNHLe. By that system nothing about his ranks are all that provocative.

Quinn - 68
Savoie - 70
Kulich - 67
Ostlund - 56
Rosen - 49

Those make up the top 5. They have some modeling which predicts if a player will be a Regular or "Star". Sabres do a little better on top 5 stars vs regulars. Probably because Savoie has boom or bust characteristics according to models.

Notable depth players would be:

Komarov - 48
Benson - 47
Wahlberg - 33
Neuchev - 37

I don't think these models do a good job of predicting teenagers who are already playing in the NHL but aren't future MVP candidates. So Benson looks a lot worse than he would have otherwise. If he stuck in the WHL and had a ~90 PNHLe season they're right around the top 5.

If these models were actually good we wouldn’t get to see them.

 

[Chainshot]

If these models were actually good we wouldn’t get to see them.

As an aside, the PDO cast was pointing out something I’ve noticed really great scoring chances that are not being scored as scoring chances by NST. Somebody gets a breakaway and they’re signing really low values to it, but if there’s a rebound or a deflection all of a sudden it’s the greatest thing since sliced bread. I think NST needs to work on their model. And a couple of the other public stat gatherings are also using NST data, it kind of excuse their outcomes as well.

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795295459646562681

 

[Old Navy Goat]

T doubt any of them get contracts

 

[Chainshot]

Two undersized offensive defensemen who weren't really good at that role at their tier and a smaller-sized checking center who hasn't had any offensive breakthrough, though plays against men... nah. They could look elsewhere for UDFA/UFA/OAs and probably get bigger, harder to play against folks

 

[Reddawg]

It's going to be a shame to see ML's mom take her fandom to another team.

 

[Blowfish]

Hey guys any word on the Buffalo Prospects Challenge? Dates? Team invitees?

 

[Gabrielor]

Hey guys any word on the Buffalo Prospects Challenge? Dates? Team invitees?

You won't get those until August/September.

 

[Chainshot]

I wonder if Braden Hache will have officials protecting him in the AHL like he did in the OHL now that he's signed an AHL deal with the Barracuda?

 

[toddkaz]

Any chance Paltapov makes the jump to the AHL next year?

Feels like its best for his development to play in the AHL next year.

 

[Gabrielor]

Any chance Paltapov makes the jump to the AHL next year?

Feels like its best for his development to play in the AHL next year.

Still has 1 year left on Russia deal. You'd have to get him out of that.