Zach Parise : ''Lately, the hockey part has been difficult''
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Huck Cheever
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Parise dragged that free agency out and milked it for everything. I don't feel bad for him one bit.
He had a much better shot winning a cup with him and Suter supporting an old, yet still elite, Datsyuk and Zetterberg.
Cursed Lemon
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I don't know what they were expecting. They went home because it was home, not because Minnesota were on their way to a Cup.
ManwithNoIdentity
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Looks like we dodged a bullet with those contracts although Suter is still very good
Sidney the Kidney
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Maybe Parise should have taken Shero's offer to join the Pens instead of just going home then if winning was what was important to him.
TropicalFruitGirl2
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While it certainly doesn't look like the Wild will be winning a Cup with both Parise and Suter on the roster, I am not ready to call their signings "a failure" just yet.
Yes, I know they are past their prime, but the Wild needed to be more than just Parise and Suter.
I would even say their chances were good a few seasons ago, if not for constantly running into the always-one-step ahead Blackhawks.
Anyone else the Wild would have faced in those years Chicago bounced them, and maybe Minnesota could be sitting with a Cup by now.
I am being optimistic, I know.
Still though...until Parise (or Suter for that matter) absolutely cannot play hockey any longer, this pair of signings still drive the core.
But they need some serious help from the surrounding cast.
I would LOVE to see this Minnesota Wild team play a full season relatively healthy start to finish and see what happens from that.
Suter, Spurgeon, Dumba, Brodin...not a bad top 4 on defense.
Maybe Brad Hunt becomes a nice surprise there too.
GM Paul Fenton has screwed up on some transactions (Granlund for Fiala 1 to 1 was especially egregious), but he did bring in a guy like Mats Zuccarello to help out the vet core, and guys like Jordan Greenway, Ryan Donato, and Ryan Hartman are going to get chances to show they belong full time at the NHL level.
If Parise can stay healthy, and he really, truly wants to win, well, I think the pieces are there for the Wild to remain competitive to that end.
I would be lying though, if I said it didn't bother me when Parise says "the hockey part has been difficult"
Really, now, Zach...the "hockey part" is what matters most.....just go out there and do it.
Yes, I know they are past their prime, but the Wild needed to be more than just Parise and Suter.
I would even say their chances were good a few seasons ago, if not for constantly running into the always-one-step ahead Blackhawks.
Anyone else the Wild would have faced in those years Chicago bounced them, and maybe Minnesota could be sitting with a Cup by now.
I am being optimistic, I know.
Still though...until Parise (or Suter for that matter) absolutely cannot play hockey any longer, this pair of signings still drive the core.
But they need some serious help from the surrounding cast.
I would LOVE to see this Minnesota Wild team play a full season relatively healthy start to finish and see what happens from that.
Suter, Spurgeon, Dumba, Brodin...not a bad top 4 on defense.
Maybe Brad Hunt becomes a nice surprise there too.
GM Paul Fenton has screwed up on some transactions (Granlund for Fiala 1 to 1 was especially egregious), but he did bring in a guy like Mats Zuccarello to help out the vet core, and guys like Jordan Greenway, Ryan Donato, and Ryan Hartman are going to get chances to show they belong full time at the NHL level.
If Parise can stay healthy, and he really, truly wants to win, well, I think the pieces are there for the Wild to remain competitive to that end.
I would be lying though, if I said it didn't bother me when Parise says "the hockey part has been difficult"
Really, now, Zach...the "hockey part" is what matters most.....just go out there and do it.
Zippy316
aka Zippo
Someone fact check me on this, but I'm pretty sure Parise's dad was sick when he hit free agency.
I think that was a huge factor in him going to Minnesota along with it being where him and his wife are from.
Let's not forget the players are also human to, I think many on here would do the same.
lol it was worth it. i mean how many years in a row where we expected and received a playoff spot after abject hopelessness? Anyone remember that? Price you pay.
That said. Do not feel bad. If ours wasn't the highest $$ offer it was a close second and being home tipped the scales, but only among offers of the same money, so please step away with the idea that they came here to be home as if it were the only or even primary reason. The hockey part is hard--yeah i can bet it's frustrating but in all honesty we had three "lead by example only" kind of guys in leadership here and iirc we had a whole "act like you've scored before" attempt by Parise and Suter to quash celebrating after goals. Kinda leads me to believe there was some responsibility there for the joy being sucked out of things if you're shooting irritated side-eyes at your younger teammates when they get jacked up after a goal.
That said. Do not feel bad. If ours wasn't the highest $$ offer it was a close second and being home tipped the scales, but only among offers of the same money, so please step away with the idea that they came here to be home as if it were the only or even primary reason. The hockey part is hard--yeah i can bet it's frustrating but in all honesty we had three "lead by example only" kind of guys in leadership here and iirc we had a whole "act like you've scored before" attempt by Parise and Suter to quash celebrating after goals. Kinda leads me to believe there was some responsibility there for the joy being sucked out of things if you're shooting irritated side-eyes at your younger teammates when they get jacked up after a goal.
Carlos Ranger
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Parise's contract is very tradeable. The bulk of his money has been paid and salary will be going way down in the last 5 years of the deal. Only issue would be his NMC..
and the thought that if Parise doesn't like wherever he goes he can just retire and murder us with a cap recapture.
edit: for clarity, i believe in a players' right to get whatever he can out of a team. I do not fault Parise at all for anything that went awry here--dude's motor is still monsterous and something you want on your team to point at and tell everyone "if you try even half that hard every night you'll stick in the NHL"
edit: for clarity, i believe in a players' right to get whatever he can out of a team. I do not fault Parise at all for anything that went awry here--dude's motor is still monsterous and something you want on your team to point at and tell everyone "if you try even half that hard every night you'll stick in the NHL"
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Huck Cheever
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Tradeable to Ottawa maybe. 6 years left at 7.5 cap hit, yikes.
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Looking back on it now, his contract wouldn't be bad at all if he had only signed for 7-8 years. If he had signed an 8 year deal (even if it were for slightly more AAV), that deal would turn out to be fine, as it would only have one year left and not 6.
That's not to say the deal he did get won't turn out to be fine, he may be LTIR'd before it ends.
That's not to say the deal he did get won't turn out to be fine, he may be LTIR'd before it ends.
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Oneiro
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Parise would've been the ideal winger for Crosby.
It is funny seeing NJ now more well-positioned for the future than Minnesota was when Parise and Suter signed there.
He signed on July 4. He doesn't control media speculation
Jerzey Devil
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Strange thing to say that all you think about is winning when you ditched a team a year after they went to the Stanley Cup finals. I guess he didn’t get to that point until later on in his career.
Foppberg
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Tough shit bub. What did you expect going to Minnesota? Hard to feel bad for a guy on a 100 million dollar contract.
BrockLobster
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6 more seasons at a 7+ mil cap hit for a 35 yr old may be one of the least tradable contracts in the NHL
roflstomper
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The actual dollar amount decreases drastically for the last 3 years. Could be attractive to a cap floor team.
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Parise has been overrated his entire career. He had one remarkable season, that's it. I have no sympathy for him, no one put a gun to his head and made him sign such a lengthy deal in the first place.
Maybe if he had been better in his time with Minnesota then they would have actually won something.
Maybe if he had been better in his time with Minnesota then they would have actually won something.
ColbyChaos
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Not with that post-Lidstrom defense. Even with Parise and Suter Detroit would still have a lot of holes and them being added doesnt magically make Datsyuk and Z less injury prone. Their careers still would have likely gone the way they did post 2013 with Zetterberg in particular having back issue after back issue (basically started in 2014) plus they wouldnt finish low enough in the draft order to get young guys like Larkin.
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