Would you rather finish bottom-5 this season or fight for the playoffs?
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TominNC
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Stay the course. Make the deadline trades that need to be made. Continue to play and develop young guys. They'll surprise some teams and screw up some games but they're fun to watch. The pick will be what it is. You can't "try" for a better one.
And for those who are quick to dump Buchnevich, Duclair says hi from the all star game.
And for those who are quick to dump Buchnevich, Duclair says hi from the all star game.
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My position is that Kreider and Fast will be moved as upcoming UFAs and potentially Skjei and Buchnevich could also be moved in hockey trades. Staying in the playoff hunt means 90+ points. So if the post-TDL roster can get to 90 points then something had to go extremely right and would outweigh whatever extra balls are there for a lottery win between hypothetical 14 and 9 spots.
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rooting more to win the NHL lottery as finishing 5th worst doesn’t mean much, we learned that last year
Players sometimes need new scenery to find success. No guarantee Duclair would have had that success if he stayed a Ranger.
Look at DeAngelo, took him 3 teams to finally find success.
TominNC
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And sometimes it’s hust a matter of giving up too soon on young men.
they didn't just "give up" on him though.
They moved him in an attempt to try to push a contender over the top.
GunkWinger
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I see this as more " Would the team be better off if... "
I want them to win every game. I cant actively root against them. But I think finishing top 5 pick would be best for the team.
I want them to win every game. I cant actively root against them. But I think finishing top 5 pick would be best for the team.
eco's bones
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If we end up 9 or 10 I'm alright. That's about where I think we'll be. Maybe we get to 8......and who know maybe we'll win the lottery again. We're not going to lose all our games though. Rangers are 10-5 against their own division--we have 13 games left within our division. Keeping in mind who we trade I would think we're going to win 4 or 5 of them anyway. We have two games against Detroit--2 against Buffalo. Home games against L. A. and San Jose--so there are some weaker teams ahead. How many of those we win are going to have a lot to do with where are draft placement is.
Like it or not we have real good goaltending. Our defense isn't great but our defensemen can put up a lot of points. We have two legit 1st line players each capable of carrying a line on their back. A team with those components isn't likely to collapse.
Like it or not we have real good goaltending. Our defense isn't great but our defensemen can put up a lot of points. We have two legit 1st line players each capable of carrying a line on their back. A team with those components isn't likely to collapse.
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Mandar
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So, for the next season and a half, don't try to win....just lose for a chance at a better pick?
Then tell us why any fans should show up to watch them? For the joy of losing?
Ohhhh....this is how you build a team....cause it's always about the far future....every year. It's not only "wait till next year"...its keep playing for years down the road...and when those years come up, well then....just lose for the following year. Brilliant!
Can we get a date when it's okay to try to win again....this is all just so confusing.
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well i said exactly when i think they're ready to invest in contending rather than investing in gathering and developing young talent - after NEXT season
I know some folks will disagree, and i am not hoping the players don't try
but i don't want the team to trade young assets to push for a playoff spot this year, or try too hard next year
i have been thru the Staal and St Louis and Yandle and Clowe trades
this is not yet the time for that
i am willing to wait a bit longer
let the the kids get acclimated and more of the kids make the NHL
get through the final years of the Staal, Henry and Smith contracts,
and come out the other side of the Seattle expansion draft,
with KK and Krav as 3rd year wings, Shesty acclimated, Lindgren and other young D carrying more of the load, Trouba and Panarin and Zib still in their prime, Chytil and Lemieux hitting their prime
thats when the new core is the main core, we hope, and thats when to begin taking those extra steps to compete with the best
just my opinion, i dont expect everyone to agree,
i've been thru the years where the team was a top 16 but not top 6 team
i prefer the eras when NYR are one of the top top teams - early '70's, mid-90's, 2010's
i can see this group getting there, but there is no way to rush it that doesn't likely drive regretted decisions
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Make trades in keeping with the long term vision. Fight to make the playoffs. Fail to make the playoffs. Hope for luck in the lottery.
I don't think there is one poster on here who would want to trade any kind of young asset/pick for a player that would help us get to a playoff spot this year or even next. At least not that I have come across. Stay the course.
eco's bones
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It's not really a problem because the team is going to do what the team is going to do but IMO this team is going to seriously try to push for a playoff spot next year but yeah if we fall short again there will be some who say 'yep, we need another top 10 this year and another next year and then we should be good to go'--kicking it another year further down the road. Thing is it's going to be much more like an imperative next year. There's only so many years and then it becomes a real trend that you can't bust.
The other thing about next year--when it's over there will be no Staal, Smith and probably Lundqvist too. Whether or not the Rangers still have Kreider or Fast they'll have deals if they do and the house will have been completely cleaned out. Primarily what we'll have to trade at that point are young players, prospects and draft picks. We're also going to have to start thinking about Zibanejad. He'll have a couple years left on his contract still but a 7-8 year deal to a guy who will be 29 at that point is something to think about. I think we probably do it because A) he's a beast and B) we should have the cap space because of having so many young players but the last year or two of a 7-8 year he might not be worth it.
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Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Ha! Not sure if I agree. I, for one, would've changed my vote to top five pick, if that were the case...
bbny
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I have two subscriptions, the NHL and a tv one for the blackout games (Premier Sports). I want them to finnish low for a draft pick since the start of the season. But when I watch them I want them to win. So it is a never ending conflict, the only good thing is, when they lose, I comfort myself with that it is a good thing for a draft pick, best for me would be they compete hard every game for the win, but end up losing enough for a good draft pick.
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Oscar Lindberg
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There's almost no chance they make the playoffs, but I see almost no value in them getting in
It's the dreaded middle all over again. Making the playoffs so people feel better for the short term
It's the dreaded middle all over again. Making the playoffs so people feel better for the short term
TheBloodyNine
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This type of thinking, aka lack of patience, is what leads to the dreaded middle. You don't want it done right, you want it done fast.
Edge
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If it's between the two, I go with the a top 5 pick.
As we've seen this season, even with a prospect pool that is ranked at or near the top of the league, there are a lot of variables that can derail even the best laid plans and hopes.
I think we need more ammo, and I think this is probably the last draft where we actively go in and seek it.
But, in full disclosure, my mindset has always leaned toward losing some battles to win a war.
As we've seen this season, even with a prospect pool that is ranked at or near the top of the league, there are a lot of variables that can derail even the best laid plans and hopes.
I think we need more ammo, and I think this is probably the last draft where we actively go in and seek it.
But, in full disclosure, my mindset has always leaned toward losing some battles to win a war.
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