WJC: World Junior Championship best international tournaments in hockey world?

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Czech Republic

In the Czech Republic:

Olympics > World Championships (even non-hockey fans follow these two tournaments) >>>>>> World Cup >>>>>>>>>>>>> World Juniors.

WJC is here a very minority event.
 
I think what makes the WJC exciting is the intrigue. There's a lot of players playing in different leagues that people don't see often or head-to-head so there's the unknown quality - which prospect is going to emerge as a star on the highest stage? Which aren't good enough despite all the points they score in their junior league? Add on the NHL team loyalties and draft potential and it's a lot of fun.

The other tournaments, almost all the best players in the world play in the NHL, so there's not nearly as much mystery and excitement.
 
In the Czech Republic:

Olympics > World Championships (even non-hockey fans follow these two tournaments) >>>>>> World Cup >>>>>>>>>>>>> World Juniors.

WJC is here a very minority event.

The bolded is not true. Not many people cared about World Cup this year, WJC is not on the same level as WHC, not close, of course, but it is a lot better than, for example 5-7 years ago.
 
WJC and Olympics for me are the two favorites. WJC seems to have more passion and excitement while the Olympics are better hockey. Love them both.
 
My subjective list in order of entertainment:
WJC Entertaining games, lots of youth and passion.
OG Best players and the great spirit of the olympics.
WC Hockey carnival!
U18 Interesting prospects and entertaining hockey and some prestige.
Hlinka Interesting prospects and entertaining hockey after a long summer.
WoC Smells like money.

I felt like I should explain my picks.
 
Why do you feel that WHC is "hockey carnival". What's the reasoning behind this. Thanks for explaining. :)

European fan culture combined with my Finnish subjective experience. It always seems to me that WC fans are always having a great time partying and watching hockey. I view it as a celebration of this wonderful game that we have. :)
 
I'll never understand how anyone can badmouth the World Championship for "not being best on best" and then go on about how great the World Juniors are. For one, they aren't best on best either, as they clearly lack the most talented players, because those are in the NHL already.

In addition to that, most of the WJC players aren't nearly as good as those on the WCH. They are junior players, they would get their rears handed to them by most seniors. A few are already good enough to be comparable to very good to great seniors, another few might be as good or better once they hit their primes, and a large part of them will never be good enough to represent their countries even at the WCH.
Haha this is a pretty clueless argument.

People don't want the best players at a WJC, it's a prospect evaluation tournament. You get all the kids on a big stage and watch the players pegged as your team's future and make predictions and calls from your couch. The juniors already in the NHL are proven commodities, no one needs to see them anymore. HFboards itself is a testament to how much people love to play scout, 987 pages of long, extensive threads just on the prospects section alone and then each NHL section has it's own individual prospect threads. NHL scouts also use the WJC as a scouting ground and we know that and that adds value to it.

There's nothing to see at the WCH. There's no draw. It's not best on best. It's not a prospect tournament either, the players there aren't getting any better. Last year's tournament actually drew bigger fanfare than the years before, why, because Patrik Laine and Auston Matthews were there so we all got to put on our little amateur scout caps to see it. Regularly, about 3 guys, often less, from the WCH end up receiving NHL deals at the end of it and they usually just turn out to be trash. Even if their play is better, their potential is maximized, there's no illusion of hope, and if you've ever know fans the illusion of hope is one of the strongest driving forces to a fan's heart. And the illusion isn't that intensely far from reality, most stars in the NHL have at some point played in the WJC.

So no, they're nothing alike and that's how you're trying to evaluate them, but if it comforts you then you can believe that. When the WJC comes around I'll be at my couch arguing with friends that Luke Kunin isn't Minnesota's answer because see screen, Dylan Strome is overrated see screen again, or be amazed at how good Nico Hischier is wow he must be so good in the future or talk about how Carter Hart is a franchise goalie and then get called out when he lets in a bad goal. You at the WCH will be saying "well I think Yohann Auvitu at 26 has the potential to be an NHL fourth liner, Pierre Eduoard Bellemare has fourth line potential, Andreas Marthinsen could be a fourth line goon in the NHL, Adam Vay could do below average in the ECHL" there's not even the illusion of hope. And hope is what excites fans, what brings value to the experience.
 
Until a couple hours ago Rasmus Dahlin didn't mean anything to me beyond a name on a message board. Now I am a fan.

The WJC are awesome.
 
The World Juniors were better before when it was a round robin all the way. Now it's a cash grab and it's not even all the best juniors.

Olympics
Worlds
Worlds Juniors.
 
The World Juniors were better before when it was a round robin all the way. Now it's a cash grab and it's not even all the best juniors.

When was the tournament not partially a means of generating cash and when did it have all the best juniors?
 
At least before the Soviets Czechs Swedes Finns almost always had all their best players. When it wasn't every two years in Canada it wasn't a cash grab first tournament. And when it was played in Junior hockey cities...
 
At least before the Soviets Czechs Swedes Finns almost always had all their best players. When it wasn't every two years in Canada it wasn't a cash grab first tournament. And when it was played in Junior hockey cities...

I agree about the second part, but the first part means that you miss the days when only Canada and USA were missing their best players. The total number of missing players isn't necessarily higher today (1985 saw 24 players missing for instance).
 
At least before the Soviets Czechs Swedes Finns almost always had all their best players. When it wasn't every two years in Canada it wasn't a cash grab first tournament. And when it was played in Junior hockey cities...

Canada gets bigtime home ice adavantages .But at least barns are filled up.Adds life to games for us watching.
 
WJC = Most entertaining international tournament

Olympics = Best international tournament

Wold Cup = Entertaining, but not a true international like the rest.

World Hockey Championship = Lots of the best players don't bother playing, making it the worst and least relevant.
 
World Champs, most fun and entertaining. Not just the games, but the carneval.
Olympics! Best on Best or not, it's the most prestigious, but a bit too serious and the audience is often a nowshow.
WJC. Prolly the most interesting, but the play can be hilariously bad sometimes.

Canada/World Cup is on the same level as Soviet era Izvestija. It's more or less a farce, this year being the worst of all time. It was about on the legitimacy level of Spengler Cup. >_<
 
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World Hockey Championship = Lots of the best players don't bother playing, making it the worst and least relevant.

That's a rather dated view. In this millenia most of the available players have answered the call. The no shows are usually legitly injured; or in some cases tried to be shoved into non-positions.
 
That's a rather dated view. In this millenia most of the available players have answered the call. The no shows are usually legitly injured; or in some cases tried to be shoved into non-positions.

Nope. Maybe for Russia, but even then I'm not sure.
 

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