World Cup TV ratings

[FirewagonChange]

World Cup of hockey should be held in early February after this. Shut down the league for two weeks. Players will be in form so there will be less chance of injuries and it'll be a better product. Football and baseball seasons are done, so better TV ratings will pour in for sure. Also, you won't need to play exhibition games that spoil the tournament games. They can just have a mini training camp.

The NHL can even have an All-Star game if they move it back to mid January. Shutting down the league for two weeks has never affected the NHL, in fact it benefits the league because people get excited it's coming back after a layoff. In World Cup years the NHL season will have to start about 10-12 days earlier which isn't a problem.

 

[LaxSabre]

@SportsTVRatings -
World Cup Of Hockey - Russia vs Canada - ESPN2 - 7:30 pm ET-10:22 pm ET - 202K.

https://sportstvratings.com/pardon-...ratings-for-wednesday-september-14-2016/5840/

 

[rubco55]

We'll see what the ratings are if Canada reaches the finals. In the a Olympics, it was over 15M IIRC, so almost half the country.

I'd be surprised if this tournaments finals got more than ~3-4M or so.

Ratings in the 2010 Olympic final were amazing, but I'll never forget Game 8 of the Summit Series on Thursday Sept. 28, 1972...the game was in Moscow. VCR's did not exist and the game was on TV in Canada around 1pm.
People left their jobs, most schools and universities shut down, all the provincial governments and the federal govt. shut down for the afternoon. The country basically stopped...for a hockey game.

 

[The CyNick]

We'll see what the ratings are if Canada reaches the finals. In the a Olympics, it was over 15M IIRC, so almost half the country.

I'd be surprised if this tournaments finals got more than ~3-4M or so.

Do you think ratings success will be measured against the Olympics?

 

[gwh]

Finland: preliminary games on TV4.

470000 Sweden - Finland

527000 Finland - Sweden

(These are finnish numbers only. Swedish spectators not included)
http://www.finnpanel.fi/tulokset/tv/vko/top50p/2016/36/

And for reference: FIN -USA in IIHF WC preliminary round (adults) was 1.7million. Finland - Belarus was 1.4million.

 

[Desdichado93]

I thought it was a handball country?

Not really . Handball is only 4th in the spectator league.

1. Football
2. Ice hockey
3. Speedway
4. Handball
5. Bandy
6. Indoor bandy

http://www.svt.se/sport/fotboll/allsvenskan-rycker-ifran-shl-publikt/
http://www.svt.se/sport/artikel/publikbarometern-norrkoping-vinnare-aven-pa-laktaren/

 

[gwh]

And this is below Karjala Cup in viewership. That is a local national hockey tournament, where players who are not good enough for IIHF WC play.

A tirefire...

 

[xxxx]

Finland: preliminary games on TV4.

470000 Sweden - Finland

527000 Finland - Sweden

(These are finnish numbers only. Swedish spectators not included)
http://www.finnpanel.fi/tulokset/tv/vko/top50p/2016/36/

And for reference: FIN -USA in IIHF WC preliminary round (adults) was 1.7million. Finland - Belarus was 1.4million.

Thurday game's average was 527 000 (peak 1 243 000). Saturday game's average was 472 000 (peak 1 136 000). Both games on free tv.

I think that's solid. Or not?

 

[Bear12Good]

I think that's solid. Or not?

I think not

 

[gwh]

I think that's solid. Or not?

Thats crap. 470k viewers for a game is less than Karjala turnaus gets.

Karjala cup has KHL+FEL players against SEL/KHL players. Tertiary tournament. More viewers.

 

[613Leafer]

Do you think ratings success will be measured against the Olympics?

If they're trying to make THE biggest international hockey tournament, then yes, I would say it makes sense. They should want to show that they can get as much or at least close to as much interest as the Olympic hockey tournament. I don't think that will happen though.

 

[Rayban*]

How in the world did hockey get more views in Canada than American football!?!?

In other news, 3 separate games of a 162 game MLB regular season each drew more viewers than the National Hockey team playing it's fiercest rival...

It's undisputed that the tournament will do well in canada but this here article has a perfect tinge of silliness added to it.

The only mlb team in Canada was in a series for 1st place...it's not surprising at all that it drew more views....

 

[TLeafsFan]

And it was just exhibition.

 

[Jussi]

I think that's solid. Or not?

Thats crap. 470k viewers for a game is less than Karjala turnaus gets.

Karjala cup has KHL+FEL players against SEL/KHL players. Tertiary tournament. More viewers.

Karjala Cup being back on the national brodcasting company YLE helps a lot as they know how to produce sports events on tv and the Finnish public knows it. I don't remember the peak numbers for last years Karjala Cup but the World Championships peak numbers usually closer to two million and those games usually start around 9 pm and it won't stop the early working shift people from watching. I for example have t oget up Monday around 7 am so there's zero chance of me watching the first game vs the other all-star team.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

I'm curious to know what the NHL and Rogers will consider a successful tournament viewership-wise in Canada. Does it just take solid ratings for Team Canada and a lesser extent Team North America games to make it worthwhile. Can they live with a Sweden vs. Russia game at 3 p.m. on Sunday drawing half a million viewers?

 

[xxxx]

Finland's population is 5 million. I think that peak of 1.2 million viewers for an exhibition game for a meaningless tournament is quite a lot.

I'm curious to know what the and Rogers will consider a successful tournament viewership-wise in Canada. Does it just take solid ratings for Team Canada and a lesser extent Team North America games to make it worthwhile. Can they live with a Sweden vs. Russia game at 3 p.m. on Sunday drawing half a million viewers?

I think the TV viewership will easily surpass the last olympics. And I think it could challange the 2010 olympics.

Let us be reminded that, according to the links below, in Sochi, the average television audience for the gold-medal game between Canada and Sweden was 8.5 million (peak of 15 million). This World Cup final will easily surpass that. In Vancouver, the average audience was more than 16 million (half a population), peak was 26.5 million (over 80% of all canadians).
http://www.espn.com/olympics/winter/2010/icehockey/news/story?id=4957570
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...medal-hockey-win-over-sweden/article17076958/

 

[86Habs]

Finland's population is 5 million. I think that peak of 1.2 million viewers for an exhibition game for a meaningless tournament is quite a lot.




I think the TV viewership will easily surpass the last olympics. And I think it could challange the 2010 olympics.

Let us be reminded that, according to the links below, in Sochi, the average television audience for the gold-medal game between Canada and Sweden was 8.5 million (peak of 15 million). This World Cup final will easily surpass that. In Vancouver, the average audience was more than 16 million (half a population), peak was 26.5 million (over 80% of all canadians).
http://www.espn.com/olympics/winter/2010/icehockey/news/story?id=4957570
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/spor...medal-hockey-win-over-sweden/article17076958/

Putting you on the record here, THF.

In all seriousness, the WCOH will be in tough against the Blue Jays. The final games, on Sep 27 and Sep 29, are directly up against the Jays' final home stand against Baltimore (same time slots and everything). The 29th is also up against Thursday night NFL football. There's also a Jays game on Oct 1, exact time TBD, which may or may not be at the same time as final game #3 (if necessary). As a fan of both sports baseball (IMO) lends itself better to real-time viewing than PVRing. Personally I'll watch the baseball (assuming the Jays are still in it) and PVR the hockey finals.

Getting the same number of viewers as the Sochi GMG will be a very tough hurdle, Vanvouver GMG almost impossible I'd dare say. The comps are tough this time of year, whereas there's not much going on during the Olympics except, well, the Olympics.

 

[gattaca]

Rogers will want HNIC ratings for Canada group round games at the minimum. Then Stanley Cup Final ratings with a Cdn team in it for Canada's knockout games.

For the other team group matches, they will want avg 500k to 1 million - though some games are on the weekday, so 200-300k might be okay for some games. But World Cup football matches during the weekday have gotten higher than 200-300k in Canada. This is where Team Europe & NA hurts since there is no large pre-existing fanbase who will go out of their way to watch them play at 3pm on a Tuesday.

For knockout games ex Canada, Rogers will be looking for HNIC type ratings.

For the final, if Canada is in, Rogers will want to match World Junior ratings of 6 million+. They could match Olympics 2014 Sweden ratings given it started between 3-830am in Canada and if Canada is playing Russia or USA. But it is a 2 out of 3, so I doubt it unless it went to game 3.

They won't match Vancity Olympics since very few tv programs get over 10 million viewers in Canada and not an extended 2 out of 3 - you need one game and you need to get an already established pre-tourney groundswell and then the tourney itself must really capture the imagination of the country. The former hasn't happened and the latter has never happened for a World Cup - it has for a Canada Cup but that was pre best on best Olympic days.

 

[Jussi]

Finland's population is 5 million. I think that peak of 1.2 million viewers for an exhibition game for a meaningless tournament is quite a lot.

Compared to hockey games with much less NHL players or even without, it's not. The fact that he numbers dropped for the saturday game, is interesting.

 

[Jonas1235]

Blue Jays will be out of playoff contention by September 29th. So don't worry.

 

[FVM]

Finland's population is 5 million. I think that peak of 1.2 million viewers for an exhibition game for a meaningless tournament is quite a lot.

Nah, it's not super impressive, which just shows how hockey crazy we are here. International hockey is the bomb ratings wise. Hockey is Finland's game

 

[cutchemist42]

I'm curious to know what the NHL and Rogers will consider a successful tournament viewership-wise in Canada. Does it just take solid ratings for Team Canada and a lesser extent Team North America games to make it worthwhile. Can they live with a Sweden vs. Russia game at 3 p.m. on Sunday drawing half a million viewers?

I think you'll tell by how much gloating/PR/etc SN-connected guys start tweeting. If ratings are great and meeting expectations, they post that immediately with Blue Jays.

 

[kabidjan18]

You are confused that hockey got more than American football, but also confused it got less than baseball?

PS. Canadian Football also fared better than the US version. (except for if you combine 3 different games)

The Jays are huge right now across the country, and will be the biggest story until the NHL season starts, and will continue to match it since they will be well into the playoffs if they are up against each other.

Reading comp bro, nobody's confused about anything, pointing out the absurdity of claiming an achievement...

 

[stl76]

more of a meatball country, really.

But seriously, I had no idea what Bandy was until reading this thread.



Looks fun...kind of like field hockey on ice (but not ice hockey haha)

 

[adsfan]

But seriously, I had no idea what Bandy was until reading this thread.



Looks fun...kind of like field hockey on ice (but not ice hockey haha)

Same here. It looks like 9 or 10 skaters and a goalie in front of a soccer net.

I like sports that are new to me. A futsal court just opened in a park near my house. My wife said "what is futsal?" I replied that the local soccer coach, Keith Tozer, was one of the best coaches in the world. The US has a second and third place finish in the World Cup and is usually in the top 10 internationally.

Next is pickleball. My kids played it in gym class in high school. My retired brother is playing in a league in Arizona. I think the world is passing me by sometimes!

I want to catch more WCH games, if possible. The local bar was showing the US versus Finland while I was playing trivia. I think I was the only one watching out of about 30 people. To be fair, the Milwaukee Brewers were playing baseball and that game was getting ignored too. They are fighting for last place in the division with the Cincinnati Reds. Not much enthusiasm for baseball around here at the moment.