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TLeafsFan said:
It isn't just the players, though.

There used to be true rivalries.

Now there's just Canada and the rest.

Speaks volumes as to our national development program though.
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Oh I know it's not just the players, the Soviets were a big part of it. The SU sucked but the one good thing about it was that hockey team that was just fantastic. There was always suspense because they were Canada's equals basically and there was always mystery because they were behind the Iron Curtain. Those are absolutely huge factors and as I've said before, that was the golden era of international hockey and it's gone for good, nothing you can do about it. That's why I laugh when people dump all over the NHL and the tournament format comparing it to previous tournaments saying there's no buzz and all this other nonsense - they just don't get the fact that those days are over, period. You could have exactly the same format that once was, there would still be nowhere the excitement there used to be.
 
Fenway said:
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh-game/the-great-canadian-ratings-report-221734280.html#more-id

Here are the most-watched sports events on English-language television from the past weekend, according to Numeris overnight ratings:

1. World Cup of Hockey, Canada vs. Russia, Saturday, CBC-Sportsnet: 3,100,000

2. MLB, Yankees at Blue Jays, Friday, Sportsnet: 1,580,000

2. MLB, Yankees at Blue Jays, Saturday, Sportsnet: 1,580,000

4. MLB, Yankees at Blue Jays, Sunday, Sportsnet: 1,430,000

5. NFL, Steelers-Eagles/Seahawks-49ers, Sunday, CTV-TSN2: 632,000

6. World Cup of Hockey, Sweden vs. Europe, Sunday, CBC-Sportsnet One: 625,000

7. CFL, Tiger-Cats at Roughriders, Saturday, TSN: 513,000

8. CFL, Lions at Eskimos, Friday, TSN: 475,000

9. NFL, Early games, Sunday, CTV: 434,000

10. CFL, Blue Bombers at Stampeders, Saturday, TSN: 412,000
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Those numbers seem pretty impressive all things considered. I kept reading here how nobody cares, people don't even know the tournament is happening etc., all that talk seems like a huge load of crap now (well to be fair, it always did :laugh:). Twice as many viewers as the Jays in the thick of a pennant race seems yeah, not bad at all. Now imagine if instead of Russia, it was the Soviet Union coming from behind the iron curtain with their usual super strong team with mystery players we knew little about, the ratings would be through the roof!
 
I think those saying this is disaster for the NHL are wrong.

It's not like this tournament compares to the Olympics or even the Worlds. But they sold the rights, they sold most of the tickets, the Canadian ratings are not terrible. Europe being in the final is probably the worst possible scenario but they did that to themselves.


This tournament needs like two or three more runs on a consistent basis to actually establish itself as something regular and meaningful. As it is now most hockey fans treat it like a joke because the NHL treated it like a joke.
 
Xokkeu said:
I think those saying this is disaster for the NHL are wrong.

It's not like this tournament compares to the Olympics or even the Worlds. But they sold the rights, they sold most of the tickets, the Canadian ratings are not terrible. Europe being in the final is probably the worst possible scenario but they did that to themselves.


This tournament needs like two or three more runs on a consistent basis to actually establish itself as something regular and meaningful. As it is now most hockey fans treat it like a joke because the NHL treated it like a joke.
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No, Sweden did that to them. So did USA. Both laid an egg against Europe.
 
Xokkeu said:
I think those saying this is disaster for the NHL are wrong.

It's not like this tournament compares to the Olympics or even the Worlds. But they sold the rights, they sold most of the tickets, the Canadian ratings are not terrible. Europe being in the final is probably the worst possible scenario but they did that to themselves.


This tournament needs like two or three more runs on a consistent basis to actually establish itself as something regular and meaningful. As it is now most hockey fans treat it like a joke because the NHL treated it like a joke.
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Problem is they plan to hold another one in a few years.
 
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And that's just Vancouver.

TSN1040 said that this tournament feels like the Pan Am Games. Not the Olympics. I'll take it with a grain of salt since it's TSN and they're probably laughing hysterically. Still, 3 million TV viewers for the Russia game. I'm sure Game 2 will have similar ratings.
 
syc said:
What have the tv ratings been in the USA? Obviously low but I wonder how low. I'm sure espn isn't happy.
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USA - Canada was 700k which is about double an NHL regular season game.


The other USA games were in the 100s-200s. NHL average is about 350k. For the winter classic and if a big metro area US team gets in the Stanley Cup finals you usually get in the 1-4 million range.
 
Xokkeu said:
Who knows if they host it in Vancouver or whatever. Guessing that would sell
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Probably not as the entire thing will be compared to the Olympics.

"Why would we pay that much for this? We've had the real thing!"

Given how fair-weather people are with the Canucks these days I doubt the World Juniors would sell out at Toronto/Montreal prices.
 
The Great Canadian Ratings Report: Hockey, baseball make September sweet for Rogers

It remains to be seen if Canada's opponent in the best-of-three final (the ugly duckling Team Europe) can generate more interest than the Russians, but even if they don't there's a bright side to this for Rogers -- assuming Canada wins.

With the start of the NHL season only weeks away, nothing could boost interest more than a Canadian victory in this sporadic competition. Add in the arrival of some fresh talent and renewed hopes in places like Toronto and Edmonton (there's always renewed hope in Edmonton) and things might start looking up for Rogers after a pretty dismal NHL season.

At least, that's what the suits at the Rogers campus are hoping.

As for hoping, the CFL is hoping that some of the numbers it's seen the past two weeks aren't indicative of what's to come. While Saturday's Hamilton-Saskatchewan game did well (513,000 -- the second most-watched football game of the weekend), the Toronto-Ottawa game on Friday averaged a paltry 273,000 up against the Blue Jays.

Here are the most-watched sports events on English-language television from the past weekend, according to Numeris overnight ratings:

1. World Cup of Hockey, Canada vs. Russia, Saturday, CBC-Sportsnet: 3,100,000

2. MLB, Yankees at Blue Jays, Friday, Sportsnet: 1,580,000

2. MLB, Yankees at Blue Jays, Saturday, Sportsnet: 1,580,000

4. MLB, Yankees at Blue Jays, Sunday, Sportsnet: 1,430,000

5. NFL, Steelers-Eagles/Seahawks-49ers, Sunday, CTV-TSN2: 632,000
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Surprised they got that many viewers for the Canada/Russia game. I wonder what the numbers would be had it only been on Sportsnet.
 
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v-man said:
I wouldn't be surprised if some, if not most of the discounted tickets on Stubhub were put there by the organizers, not other re-sellers who paid face value. There were 13 consecutive seats available from the seller I purchased from, and it's unlikely a scalper would purchased so many so close together. At the game I went to there were accredited organizers in suits walking around the upper deck with stacks of lower bowl tickets they were handing out so the TV optics would be better.

Other than the shady format and general needlessness of the thing, another aspect they missed out on is atmosphere - which is very often the case at tournaments in Canada - once the actual games are done, you wouldn't know there's an international hockey tournament in town. They had the right idea with the Fan Village, but it was so remote that most of the city had no clue it existed, hence it failed to garner attention from anyone other than the limited fans who ventured out to see it before or after a game. It was next to empty every time I saw a broadcast from it. This should have been held right downtown in Nathan Phillips Square instead, like the 100th Grey Cup and Pan Am fan zones were, which were hugely successful.
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Depends if the Organizers sold tickets directly to the scalpers or not.
 
Crap tourny. I look forward to OG. Dont care about NHL players top to bottom. OG are the greatest.

Fiasko

Boring

Bill Daily

Bla bla.
 
Gary Nylund said:
Those numbers seem pretty impressive all things considered. I kept reading here how nobody cares, people don't even know the tournament is happening etc., all that talk seems like a huge load of crap now (well to be fair, it always did :laugh:). Twice as many viewers as the Jays in the thick of a pennant race seems yeah, not bad at all. Now imagine if instead of Russia, it was the Soviet Union coming from behind the iron curtain with their usual super strong team with mystery players we knew little about, the ratings would be through the roof!
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The thing is games against Russia have pulled much better numbers in recent years. The 2010 Olympic QF averaged 10+ million viewers and the 2015 WJC final averaged 6 million viewers... Both those games happened well after the USSR dissolved. So under the right circumstances (whatever those might be) Canada vs. Russia can still pull a huge number.

I think a lot of the complaining and mocking of the tournament we saw here and other places is proving to be not just a case of a relatively small, yet vocal, group of people whining about it on the interwebs, but instead a somewhat accurate reflection of the general feeling towards this edition of the WCup.

I think another problem is that at the very top international hockey just isn't that interesting right now. There is a gap between Canada and everyone else. Then again, there's the WJC... Over the past 2 or 3 years that tournament has actually been pretty interesting, but for much of its existence the field for that has been pretty thin and that never seemed to dampen people's enthusiasm for it... So I dunno.:dunno:
 
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ForumNamePending said:
The thing is games against Russia have pulled much better numbers in recent years. The 2010 Olympic QF averaged 10+ million viewers and the 2015 WJC final averaged 6 million viewers... Both those games happened well after the USSR dissolved. So under the right circumstances (whatever those might be) Canada vs. Russia can still pull a huge number.

Yeah it's hard to say just how good or bad those numbers are. Still, more than 3 million, twice as many as the Jays in the thick of a pennant race ... how bad can they be? I'd say offhand that the numbers aren't amazing, but they're not terrible either. The Olympics draw more, that's a given. It should be said that many of those people tuned in (women mostly) aren't really watching, they're just part of a crowd participating in a social event and are just in the room while the TV's on.

The World Junior is an interesting case where it's also hard to say exactly what the numbers mean. We do love our juniors, the numbers are also helped I'd think by the fact that they take place over the holidays where people are in hockey mode and also have time on their hands. Another big factor IMO is that the Junior game is always expected to be competitive. If the same could be said for the Russian World Cup roster then the numbers would likely have been much better also.

I think a lot of the complaining and mocking of the tournament we saw here and other places is proving to be not just a case of a relatively small, yet vocal, group of people whining about it on the interwebs, but instead a somewhat accurate reflection of the general feeling towards this edition of the WCup.

I think it's a bit of both. ;) I've agreed with most of the criticisms of the event, I just think the mockers are overdoing it and the event is not without value and does have some positive aspects if people could see past their hate. It seems that this vocal bunch sees it as all or nothing and since it's not all, it must be nothing which to me makes no sense.

I think another problem is that at the very top international hockey just isn't that interesting right now. There is a gap between Canada and everyone else. Then again, there's the WJC... Over the past 2 or 3 years that tournament has actually been pretty interesting, but for much of its existence the field for that has been pretty thin and that never seemed to dampen people's enthusiasm for it... So I dunno.:dunno:

Yes! At the top, international hockey is at a low point. This tournament kind of sucks but for my money, so did the Olympics. Hopefully things will be better some years down the line. The WHC I've never paid much attention to so I can't say much about that. :cheers:
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The hockey is more interesting in the Spengler Cup. I'm glad most people have said no to this nhl-nhlpa cash grab garbage. The players themselves don't care one bit.
 
Xokkeu said:
Who knows if they host it in Vancouver or whatever. Guessing that would sell
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Ok, solves tickets but not TV rights. Vancouver is a more expensive flight from Europe also. Regardless, filling a stadium isn't the issue, but if your ratings are bad, people are willing to give less for your rights. The NHL estimates 100 million from this tournament which means each clubs may accept now but they'll want more and not less as the tournament ages.
 
kabidjan18 said:
Ok, solves tickets but not TV rights. Vancouver is a more expensive flight from Europe also. Regardless, filling a stadium isn't the issue, but if your ratings are bad, people are willing to give less for your rights. The NHL estimates 100 million from this tournament which means each clubs may accept now but they'll want more and not less as the tournament ages.
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Yeah good luck with that.
 
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