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Pre-Game Talk: Winnipeg Jets @ our Toronto Maple Leafs, March 31st 7pm

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Why exactly are they breaking up the Gio-Liljegren pairing? Keefe does some seriously puzzling shit.

If Holl was the defensive stud some people think he is - he'd probably get more reps with Rielly, he seems like he'd be the perfect stay at home type to allow Rielly to play his game. But it's clear he's not, and for some reason the coach is willing to mess with perfectly fine pairings just to keep Holl with a defensively proficient partner.
 
I hope Bunting can find his game, only one goal in the last 13 games. There’s a couple of shifts in Boston where he gave up on the play, just doesn’t seem like himself the last month or so.
 
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Clifford and Simmomds playing for a reason. Keefe realizes the need to protect his players thanks to the NHL encouraging such shananigans.

It could be physical due to the bad blood which may make it a bit more difficult for the Jets in back to backs. They are fortunate to dodge the Russian Bear though.

Blackwell back in against Philly. He has earned early respect from this corner.

Get 'er done.
 
zeke said:
The Holl takes continue to be bizarre around here.

He has literally been on our top matchup pairing for the last 3 years. Now we're worried about him playing with Gio?
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What's weird is being lumped in with the Holl naysayers - which I have never been.

What's even weirder is not understanding that this puts 4 players in the disadvantageous position of adjusting to new partners instead of 2. One of whom is an emergency callup, the other who may still be feeling the effects of a puck directly to the cranium.

And the bottom pairing now is basically 2 rookies - with Dahlstrom being no Sandin.
 
Fine with Blackwell sitting in this game now. Keefe's quotes pretty much show it's to have another physical player in the lineup considering what the Jets did last game.
The defence pairings I don't get
 
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Just watched Simmonds Pre-Game Presser. You can tell he knows exactly what the message is tonight.

When asked what to expect from tonight's game:
"we know what we're in for"

When asked how he felt about the way they handled the W last time around:
"whatever they got the win, they're able to enjoy it the way they want, but tonight will be a different story"

Inject that shit into my veins Simmer.

I want him to cave Stanley's face in TBH
 
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kb said:
What's weird is being lumped in with the Holl naysayers - which I have never been.

What's even weirder is not understanding that this puts 4 players in the disadvantageous position of adjusting to new partners instead of 2. One of whom is an emergency callup, the other who may still be feeling the effects of a puck directly to the cranium.

And the bottom pairing now is basically 2 rookies - with Dahlstrom being no Sandin.
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Gio-Lilly have played exactly 51 minutes of hockey together.
 
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I don’t have any real issue with Holl but if he was as good as people want you to believe, Keefe would rely on him to anchor a pair tonight, with two rookies in the lineup.
 
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Twine Tickler said:
Just watched Simmonds Pre-Game Presser. You can tell he knows exactly what the message is tonight.

When asked what to expect from tonight's game:
"we know what we're in for"

When asked how he felt about the way they handled the W last time around:
"whatever they got the win, they're able to enjoy it the way they want, but tonight will be a different story"

Inject that shit into my veins Simmer.

I want him to cave Stanley's face in TBH
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I may need a refresher, was there something about their celebration that was noteworthy?
 
Sypher04 said:
I don’t have any real issue with Holl but if he was as good as people want you to believe, Keefe would rely on him to anchor a pair tonight, with two rookies in the lineup.
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Holl will, as always, be facing the opposition's top line most of the night.

Keefe doesn't want Dahlstrom facing them.
 
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Sypher04 said:
I don’t have any real issue with Holl but if he was as good as people want you to believe, Keefe would rely on him to anchor a pair tonight, with two rookies in the lineup.
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Dahlstrom is 27 and has 65 NHL GP. He's really bad, but not a rookie.

I don't agree with it, but he's basically setting up two pairings as his primaries and Liljegren will likely swap in a couple shifts with Rielly/Gio at different times. I dont expect Dahlstrom to play more than 10 minutes and I expect we get our regular 14-16 of Liljegren.
 
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Morgs said:
Dahlstrom is 27 and has 65 NHL GP. He's really bad, but not a rookie.

I don't agree with it, but he's basically setting up two pairings as his primaries and Liljegren will likely swap in a couple shifts with Rielly/Gio at different times. I dont expect Dahlstrom to play more than 10 minutes.
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I mean, obviously he’s not technically a rookie, but he’s played less than a season worth of nhl games, so semantics really
 
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That’s not necessarily true. Either way, I don’t personally care, I’m just playing devils advocate. I don’t like absolutes. Always gray area in these arguments to me.
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i think we can say with confidence that whoever Dahlstrom is paired with tonight he will be the most sheltered of all the dmen.
 
zeke said:
it's getting to be pure comedy that so many people still don't understand where Holl ranks in the pecking order.
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He ranks about where he should on a team with a 10-15 ranked defense.
 
Maplebeasts said:
I get that they're just in to make sure things don't get too out of hand but taking out Blackwell for Simmonds while still having Clifford in is pure stupidity. I like Keefe as a coach but some of his line-up decisions are just horrendous.
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Seems they've gotten used to having a useless 4th line.
 
zeke said:
that would be true as long as we pretend all goalies are the same.
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No pretending needed. Freddy and Mrazek put up much better numbers on a top-3 defensive team as opposed to a 10-15th defensive team.
 
I’ve had this game circled as a watershed moment since the first game against Winnipeg. Clifford and Simmons in is great but I want to see if they can come together as group, stand up for each other as a group and not just push back but instigate. Show some pride and hit them with the first punch.
This game will make or break my expectations for them going into playoffs
 
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IPS said:
No pretending needed. Freddy and Mrazek put up much better numbers on a top-3 defensive team as opposed to a 10-15th defensive team.
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and Reimer put up much better numbers on a botom-5 defensive team than he did on that top-3 defensive team.

but again, if we pretend that all goalies are equal, then yes using just goals against as your measure of defense makes sense.
 
Sypher04 said:
I may need a refresher, was there something about their celebration that was noteworthy?
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I've included a couple videos just in case lol.







There is a history between these 2 teams. We are dressing a lineup to address this
 
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