Player Discussion: Winnipeg Jets Defense

MardyBum

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And our eye test offsets the models.

Except of course your ass can't describe what you did seven weeks ago on a specific day. You can't even remember personal shit consistently. So you think you're a proper judge of what happened previously in hockey games? Over a season? What a player looked like over a season YEARS ago?

The ego.

List out the Jets first 10 games, go check the scores and give us a summary of your thoughts on how they played each game.

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I agree, f*** that lol.

Game to game the eyetest is fine, but over a season unless you're writing it down it's nonsense and your own notes would be meaningless years down the line without numbers.
 

Buffdog

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Except of course your ass can't describe what you did seven weeks ago on a specific day. You can't even remember personal shit consistently. So you think you're a proper judge of what happened previously in hockey games? Over a season? What a player looked like over a season YEARS ago?

The ego.

List out the Jets first 10 games, go check the scores and give us a summary of your thoughts on how they played each game.

I agree, f*** that lol.
Lol to post THAT and bring up someone else's ego?

Classic @MardyBum right there
 

MardyBum

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Lol to post THAT and bring up someone else's ego?

Classic @MardyBum right there

Tell us again how real hockey is played. I don't need an ego because I'm not arguing from a point of personal opinion.

Tell us how your experiences playing nothing level hockey gave you a keen eye on the minute levels of hockey.


You're not coaching. We're all reacting to things we have no control of. They can be measured. You can form an opinion about recent events, can see a player gripping the stick too much and use your "eye test" to predict he's primed for a breakout or w/e(ignoring analytics can do the same), but the broader the scale and the further you go back in time the more useless your brain becomes.

Sorry?
 

Buffdog

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Tell us again how real hockey is played. I don't need an ego because I'm not arguing from a point of personal opinion.

Tell us how your experiences playing nothing level hockey gave you a keen eye on the minute levels of hockey.


You're not coaching. We're all reacting to things we have no control of. They can be measured. You can form an opinion about recent events, can see a player gripping the stick too much and use your "eye test" to predict he's primed for a breakout or w/e(ignoring analytics can do the same), but the broader the scale and the further you go back in time the more useless your brain becomes.

Sorry?
First of all, define "nothing level". I did play AAA, junior and 3rd rate college hockey. That gives me insight because I did exist in locker room dynamics and had to play after shitty travel experiences. What level did ypu play, do that I can gauge your insights next to mine?
 

MardyBum

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First of all, define "nothing level". I did play AAA, junior and 3rd rate college hockey. That gives me insight because I did exist in locker room dynamics and had to play after shitty travel experiences. What level did ypu play, do that I can gauge your insights next to mine?

Nothing level is anything the NHL would consider nothing level, so that.

"These nerds didnt play enough they can't comment"

So you played low level hockey and that allows you to comment on performance of players over large stretches as anything other than a fan?

Of course former hockey players as yourself and others would be far more useful in a discussion about the actual drama of the Jets a few years back, but this was about performance on the ice, not "culture" and "travel troubles" and the usual hockey player bullshit.

I didn't play hockey to any high level. I'm not a great hockey mind. It doesn't take one to understand modern day "analytics". I'm not pretending my years of sportsing makes me an expert on anything.

You're the future HNIC broadcaster, not me.
 

Buffdog

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Nothing level is anything the NHL would consider nothing level, so that.

"These nerds didnt play enough they can't comment"

So you played low level hockey and that allows you to comment on performance of players over large stretches as anything other than a fan?

Of course former hockey players as yourself and others would be far more useful in a discussion about the actual drama of the Jets a few years back, but this was about performance on the ice, not "culture" and "travel troubles" and the usual hockey player bullshit.

I didn't play hockey to any high level. I'm not a great hockey mind. It doesn't take one to understand modern day "analytics". I'm not pretending my years of sportsing makes me an expert on anything.

You're the future HNIC broadcaster, not me.
I like to put it this way

I hated soccer growing up. I was a baseball player in the summers. I'd laugh and say that "soccer was a game for guys who couldn't hit a curveball"

Fast forward to a couple of years ago and one of my daughters started showing some real potential in soccer. She became part of a regional program that feeds into the national women's team program. We end up in Vancouver for her showcase and since the program is run by the Whitecaps, we go to a game

I was shocked and impressed by the whole thing. Someone suggested "Welcome to Wrexham" as a show to watch. All of a sudden I'm becoming a soccer fan. The Euro Cup and Copa America, along with watching my daughter play higher levels, has turned me into a soccer fan

I decided I needed a Premier League team to cheer for. For some reason, I picked Arsenal.

So why the wall of text? Because as I cheer for them and watch them win and lose, under NO CIRCUMSTANCE would i even pretend to know what soccer is or isn't at that level because I didn't play. And that's regardless of how many advanced soccer stats i may or may not look at - and there's a TON - it wouldn't make me qualified for f*** all

But that's you
 
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Buffdog

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I didn't play hockey to any high level. I'm not a great hockey mind. It doesn't take one to understand modern day "analytics". I'm not pretending my years of sportsing makes me an expert on anything.

You're the future HNIC broadcaster, not me.
BTW, you didn't need to say that. Anyone who has played at least to a moderately high level can tell that by the shit you post

There are others as well that I'm thinking of but won't name
 
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MardyBum

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BTW, you didn't need to say that. Anyone who has played at least to a moderately high level can tell that by the shit you post

There are others as well that I'm thinking of but won't name

Yeah, no worries, would rather not be attached to the detritus of former hockey players floating around.

Spoooooky, he's going to name names! *gasp*
 

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