OT: Winnipeg Blue Bombers 2023 Season - Another terrible disappointment. NEXT: Tough Decisions on How to Rebuild.

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I do cheer for the BB s and am a fan.
LOL...wow., you do a lot assuming......I dont feel any despair, misery, or have given up or will whinge if they lose( I certainly didnt last year!)...and no you wont be joining me if the BB s lose, LOL, and I do enjoy the ride, but not blinded by the bandwagon euphoria, so you and the others go ahead and knock yourself out, no one is stopping you.....I dont live in a totalitarian world that you live in and expect everyone to espouse your sentiments fully.
I clearly wasn't effective in communicating to you... Hopefully I'm clearer this time.

You be you when it comes to being a fan - there are lots of flavours of fans and I find all of them fascinating - I love variety and different viewpoints. I'm not telling you not to post about actual weaknesses you see in the Bombers. They definitely have some. I actually appreciate that you post regularly - activity is important to keep a forum alive, and I'm just as against echo chambers as you are. However, making blanket statements about rose coloured glasses/positivity just gets old fast... My post was very specifically replying to your comment saying optimists were not realistic.

If I made one assumption, then it was assuming that your words during games reflect your mindset. I generally believe people mean what they type, or at least that it reflects their current state of mind. You literally posted "Game Over" in the 1st quarter of the BC game, and posted how it was clear from O'Shea's face he thought it was over, too... And were talking about the post-game show well before the game was over and already making comments that certainly came across as critical/condescending about those who would minimize negatives after this "loss". To be fair, that was an extreme game, and you weren't the only one...

I acknowledge that typing words of giving up and hopelessness ("game over") doesn't mean you are, in fact, feeling those emotions. Just realize that once you type something in a public forum, people are going to read your words and interpret them as written. And maybe in unanticipated ways. However, I didn't really need to bring that up to make my central point, and I could have used less inflammatory words. I'll try better in the future. I'm aware that when I accuse someone else of being condescending, there's a good chance I'm coming across in the same way to the person who's triggering me. Classic psychological mirroring.

I've been married to a "realist"(pessimist) for over 20 years, and I have learned to truly value the prudent caution her perspective brings. She sees things I don't, and I willingly integrate facts and warnings that are logical. I see things she doesn't, and she also has learned to appreciate and value my perspectives, and we're both better together. She's also learned that even if she doesn't feel negative when making negative comments, there is a line where it brings everyone else down. And I've learned that being too positive can be frustrating and trigger others, too. We're both just trying to be helpful, but what we bring isn't always what's wanted and/or needed. But sometimes it is.

Diversity is a strength in online forums, too. There is a line between pointing out negative truths, and tearing down others. I try, and sometimes fail, to minimize harm. And I know that my words sometimes just don't communicate the way I intend them to - and I try to extend that grace to others as well. I'm trying to do that for you here, too. No hard feelings at all, and you're an important part of this little sub-forum.

I think your last line is hilarious, though - my entire life revolves around helping people see multiple points of view and consider multiple possibilities, and empower them to choose what visions they want to pursue rather than be stuck in "totalitarian" narrative loops...

Edit: mods, sorry if this is too meta (and long winded). I'll stop. If this isn't a useful post, you're welcome to delete it; my intention is to try to get us fans to give each other more grace and be self-aware (some of this is a pep talk to myself, too), but it might not come across that way.
 
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Two big surprises.

Oliveira the nominee for MOP over Collaros. This'll be a 3 way battle between VA, Brady, and Kelly. I'm guessing league voters are going to lean in on Kelly though.

And Hardrick getting the lineman nominee over Bryant. I'm not super shocked it's not Bryant and he has started to show his age. Thought it may have been Neufeld though.

League wide my guesses (what I think they WILL be, not what I think they SHOULD be) for winners are
MOP: QB Chad Kelly, TOR
MODP: DE Mathieu Betts, BC
MOC: RB Brady Oliveira, WPG
MOL: OL Dejon Allen, TOR
MOST: KR Javon Leake, TOR
MOR: DB Quantez Stiggers, TOR
 
Rod Pederson throwing Henry Burris out there as most likely for the Riders head coach vacancy.

No idea what to think about that. Honestly he's never given the impression that he'd be a good coach but that's mostly based on his time as an analyst on TSN :dunno:
 
Rod Pederson throwing Henry Burris out there as most likely for the Riders head coach vacancy.

No idea what to think about that. Honestly he's never given the impression that he'd be a good coach but that's mostly based on his time as an analyst on TSN :dunno:
As someone on Reddit aptly put it, “Rod Pederson isn’t the most reliable person in the room when he’s alone in the room,” but whatever it takes to keep them away from Buck Pierce is good for me.
 
As someone on Reddit aptly put it, “Rod Pederson isn’t the most reliable person in the room when he’s alone in the room,” but whatever it takes to keep them away from Buck Pierce is good for me.

Yeah, when I saw that I felt like there was deja vu. I swear that he's been rumored for a head coach position before and it turned out he hadn't even interviewed.

John Hodge's article throws up some much more likely names, Pierce included.
 
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Hopefully Buck doesn't follow the Paul Lapolice train of thought in jumping at every opportunity to be head coach as the opportunities open up. I don't think Saskatchewan is going anywhere with O'Day as GM. Going to Saskatchewan to be a coach under lame duck management isn't a good career move.

LaPo jumping at every (bad) opportunity ruined his reputation.
 
Hopefully Buck doesn't follow the Paul Lapolice train of thought in jumping at every opportunity to be head coach as the opportunities open up. I don't think Saskatchewan is going anywhere with O'Day as GM. Going to Saskatchewan to be a coach under lame duck management isn't a good career move.

LaPo jumping at every (bad) opportunity ruined his reputation.
Didn’t he decline an interview for a head coaching gig last year? Or am I inventing this memory?
 
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Didn’t he decline an interview for a head coaching gig last year? Or am I inventing this memory?

I feel like he did, maybe Montreal to replace Khari?

Edit: Ottawa

Buck Pierce said:
I told Ottawa that I was extremely humbled and honoured to have been thought of as a candidate. But I enjoy being in the moment and doing what I’m doing now, and until that changes I don’t feel like I need to do something else.
 
I feel like he did, maybe Montreal to replace Khari?

Edit: Ottawa
Damn it, beat me to it. I just asked my buddy Google and he said it was Ottawa as well.

In any case, hopefully Buck continues to enjoy being in the moment and sticks around.

I am gonna go undercover and send an email to the Riders with “intel” about who the best possible head coaching hire could be — and his name is Mike Kelly. Wish me luck.
 
good for brady, well deserved....gonna be in tuff against kelly, but brady is more deserving

lol...some people cant get over themselves that being a realist is not the same as a pessimist
 
As expected several changes to the lineup

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Two big surprises.

Oliveira the nominee for MOP over Collaros. This'll be a 3 way battle between VA, Brady, and Kelly. I'm guessing league voters are going to lean in on Kelly though.

And Hardrick getting the lineman nominee over Bryant. I'm not super shocked it's not Bryant and he has started to show his age. Thought it may have been Neufeld though.

League wide my guesses (what I think they WILL be, not what I think they SHOULD be) for winners are
MOP: QB Chad Kelly, TOR
MODP: DE Mathieu Betts, BC
MOC: RB Brady Oliveira, WPG
MOL: OL Dejon Allen, TOR
MOST: KR Javon Leake, TOR
MOR: DB Quantez Stiggers, TOR

I would have nominated Nick Hallett as our MOST

Hard to pick a rookie besides Sheahan because it feels like we have no rookies haha
 
Rod Pederson throwing Henry Burris out there as most likely for the Riders head coach vacancy.

No idea what to think about that. Honestly he's never given the impression that he'd be a good coach but that's mostly based on his time as an analyst on TSN :dunno:
I really like Henry Burris, but I think it's dangerous that the Riders are now selecting coaches based on who has gaps in their teeth most shaped like their province. I mean, I get it, Hank's a shoe-in. But dang.

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I really like Henry Burris, but I think it's dangerous that the Riders are now selecting coaches based on who has gaps in their teeth most shaped like their province. I mean, I get it, Hank's a shoe-in. But dang.

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If this works I can't wait to see Dinwiddie's replacement. :laugh:
 


Two big surprises.

Oliveira the nominee for MOP over Collaros. This'll be a 3 way battle between VA, Brady, and Kelly. I'm guessing league voters are going to lean in on Kelly though.

And Hardrick getting the lineman nominee over Bryant. I'm not super shocked it's not Bryant and he has started to show his age. Thought it may have been Neufeld though.

League wide my guesses (what I think they WILL be, not what I think they SHOULD be) for winners are
MOP: QB Chad Kelly, TOR
MODP: DE Mathieu Betts, BC
MOC: RB Brady Oliveira, WPG
MOL: OL Dejon Allen, TOR
MOST: KR Javon Leake, TOR
MOR: DB Quantez Stiggers, TOR


Weird not seeing Bryant there for once
 
Dru needs to take what the D is giving. 81 Alston was WIDE open over the middle but he tried to force it downfield to Lawler. Lawler nearly bailed him out with a stunning catch, but Alston would have had 15 for an easy first.
 
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