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OHLTG said:
Again, I'm not saying Cristoforo is in the right but "that was a fumble all-around." He messed up. His D partner messed up. The entire PP messed up. It's okay to admit that.

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I have no problem admitting that it was a bad play. It is the usual suspects. I take issue when people staunchly defend the same mistakes. You don't see me picking at Toms, Winegard etc. They don't go tell everyone at the face-off every stoppage what they think should happen and then sh-t tge bed 10 seconds later. People want to call 74 a 4th forward playing at the point, I'm fine with that. By definition defensemen's primary responsibility is to prevent the opposition from scoring. That I do not see happening.
 
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Cherrydon said:
I have no problem admitting that it was a bad play. It is the usual suspects. I take issue when people staunchly defend the same mistakes. You don't see me picking at Toms, Winegard etc. They don't go tell everyone at the face-off every stoppage what they think should happen and then sh-t tge bed 10 seconds later. People want to call 74 a 4th forward playing at the point, I'm fine with that. By definition defensemen's primary responsibility is to prevent the opposition from scoring. That I do not see happening.
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Rarely does
 
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Cherrydon said:
I take issue when people staunchly defend the same mistakes. You don't see me picking at Toms, Winegard etc.
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Here's my thing - with my own eyes/ears, I've seen people criticize Cristoforo for something then, minutes later, praise other D for doing the exact same thing. One example - Cristoforo pinches (for whatever reason)? "YOU'RE A DEFENCEMAN!!" Okay, cool. Shortly after, Woodall pinches? "Good shot, Woodall!" You can't have it both ways. If a player (Cristoforo, Abraham, Greentree, etc etc) screws up, whether it's a bad play, bad pinch, bad penalty, whatever, call it out. But, don't scream at something you know he doesn't have (Cristoforo doesn't have a physical game, Winegard isn't offensive, Smith isn't fast, and the list goes on), or scream at something he did then praise another D for the *exact same play.* That makes no sense.

As for tonight - Windsor looks like they're playing out the stretch. Still 4-0 midway through the 2nd, which has flown by.
 
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OHLTG said:
Here's my thing - with my own eyes/ears, I've seen people criticize Cristoforo for something then, minutes later, praise other D for doing the exact same thing. One example - Cristoforo pinches (for whatever reason)? "YOU'RE A DEFENCEMAN!!" Okay, cool. Shortly after, Woodall pinches? "Good shot, Woodall!" You can't have it both ways. If a player (Cristoforo, Abraham, Greentree, etc etc) screws up, whether it's a bad play, bad pinch, bad penalty, whatever, call it out. But, don't scream at something you know he doesn't have (Cristoforo doesn't have a physical game, Winegard isn't offensive, Smith isn't fast, and the list goes on), or scream at something he did then praise another D for the *exact same play.* That makes no sense.

As for tonight - Windsor looks like they're playing out the stretch. Still 4-0 midway through the 2nd, which has flown by.
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74 does it constantly all game.
Others don't..
U can put whatever spin on u want... lipstick on a pig
 
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I agree with most of that. Ok. Tom's sucked on that 5th goal. One difference. He wasn't a 1st round pick. Woodall yes takes liberties at times as well pinching. 2 differences. Woodall is a rookie and is a -13 compared to a - 31. I know you know that makes a difference.
 

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Cherrydon said:
I agree with most of that. Ok. Tom's sucked on that 5th goal. One difference. He wasn't a 1st round pick. Woodall yes takes liberties at times as well pinching. 2 differences. Woodall is a rookie and is a -13 compared to a - 31. I know you know that makes a difference.
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Don't know..
 

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Here's my thing - with my own eyes/ears, I've seen people criticize Cristoforo for something then, minutes later, praise other D for doing the exact same thing. One example - Cristoforo pinches (for whatever reason)? "YOU'RE A DEFENCEMAN!!" Okay, cool. Shortly after, Woodall pinches? "Good shot, Woodall!" You can't have it both ways. If a player (Cristoforo, Abraham, Greentree, etc etc) screws up, whether it's a bad play, bad pinch, bad penalty, whatever, call it out. But, don't scream at something you know he doesn't have (Cristoforo doesn't have a physical game, Winegard isn't offensive, Smith isn't fast, and the list goes on), or scream at something he did then praise another D for the *exact same play.* That makes no sense.

As for tonight - Windsor looks like they're playing out the stretch. Still 4-0 midway through the 2nd, which has flown by.
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Your example isn't much of a help because it lacks context.
 
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And now it's 2 points. 1 more lost or a Flint win and it's all over for another year.

Edit - Petes lose so nothing changes on the draft lottery front.
 

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7-2 final. It's frustrating but I'm looking forward to the draft lottery and the draft itself. It's going to be a long summer but nobody can say this season was boring.
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How quickly some things change...
 

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Martin should be tried up front with Greentree and Abraham. Put Morneau back with Smith and Spellacy. Gives them 1 consistent line that seems to work. Carry on.
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I wouldn’t mind swapping Abraham out to test Martin.

Martin isn’t, and won’t be a first liner in this league. But we’ve got what 8 games left? Let training camp start now. We have an opportunity to see guys together that haven’t been and maybe something will click. Maybe it won’t, but so what? If we lose, we lose.

Martin/Spellacy/Greentree would be an intimidating line if nothing else. Lots of size and speed. Martin if nothing else may just eat up some space against other teams top lines.

I’d love to see more of Manzo. I think he’s here next year, get him all the experience we can. A defensemen’s confidence doesn’t get wrecked the way a goalies does.

Pros from tonight?
Only 3 even strength goals against.
The home crowd didn’t sit thru it.
No one else got hurt or suspended.
Struthers first goal.
No points gained ;)
 
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Most of the folks sticking up for Bowler seem to have seen the deal and know what needs to happen. Ill comment on his drafting, its been pretty bad! Yes hes got a solid HS but he chooses the player not the scout.
 
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Somebody suggested this earlier but I'm all onboard with it, ride out the remaining games with Donoso in net . Maybe give 1 more to Costanzo. Gives Donoso as many games as possible to end his career and stops the bleeding for Costanzo. He needs time to get his mojo back before next year.

Wassilyn watch continues.
 
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