Why Aren't Successive Icings a Delay of Game Penalty?

[KingWantsCup]

Is this not a huge loop hole?

Only a few years back the rules were changed so that the team that ices the puck has to keep those players on the ice, which was awesome.

But what good is that if that team can very literally delay the game repeatedly to get more rest by icing the puck over and over? We see this all the time in the final minutes of a game with the leading team when they're handling the 6 on 5 with the opposing team's goalie pulled.

I mean, I really can't think of anything else that delays the game more intentionally than this. If the rules call for a puck unintentionally barely going over the high glass as a delay of game, how come intentional successive icings isn't?

 

[Siamese Dream]

"New league rule: 5 icings in a row is a penalty!"

 

[HavlatMach9]

The icing team has to do a lot of work to even ice the puck. That ends up more tiring that what icing will recuperate.

 

[Dave is a killer]

I tend to believe that the icing in and of itself gives the other team the advantage like (getting your best players on the ice against a tired group of players)

 

[pucky]

Is this not a huge loop hole?

Only a few years back the rules were changed so that the team that ices the puck has to keep those players on the ice, which was awesome.

But what good is that if that team can very literally delay the game repeatedly to get more rest by icing the puck over and over? We see this all the time in the final minutes of a game with the leading team when they're handling the 6 on 5 with the opposing team's goalie pulled.

I mean, I really can't think of anything else that delays the game more intentionally than this. If the rules call for a puck unintentionally barely going over the high glass as a delay of game, how come intentional successive icings isn't?

Because, there is no choice but to stop play when the puck is shot out of the arena (i.e. in the stands). Shooting the puck down the ice isn't always icing so there's no penalty for icing? Seems like a good response to me.

 

[FlashyG]

I don't mind the idea I'd also prevent teams from being able to call a timeout following an icing.

 

[Davebo*]

The icing team has to do a lot of work to even ice the puck. That ends up more tiring that what icing will recuperate.

Not really. Win draw back to winger, who blasts the puck off of the glass and out.

 

[Dave is a killer]

I don't mind the idea I'd also prevent teams from being able to call a timeout following an icing.

I have no problem with the timeout, I have a problem with the enforcement of the oh my pads are fouled up, my stick broke ... the general jerk offish type **** that goes on in between successive icings

 

[KingWantsCup]

Interesting responses. In my humble opinion I still think it's worth having the league at least kick the tires on the idea. The game needs help. Scoring just seems to keep going down.

Penalizing successive icings could:

1.) Likely allow more goals to be scored.

2.) Make the end of close games even more exciting.

3.) Increase the amount of thrilling come-from-behind victories.


The best thing about successive icing penalties? It's pretty damn near close to a black and white call. Teams that get penalized will do it to themselves.

 

[MarkGio]

Goal scoring lies with the goalies, not the icing. Besides, they need to fix the faceoff procedures first.

Too many times do I see a linesman screw with a player's head and then kick him out of the circle for flinching. Just drop the bloody puck!

 

[Cirris]

Not really. Win draw back to winger, who blasts the puck off of the glass and out.

Then don't let them win the draws then?

See it really comes down to the fact that if you're whining about icing rules, that means your team sucks at taking advantage of offensive zone faceoffs.

Rules are already in place that penalized the team that ices the puck.

IF the team ices the puck 5 straight times that means they haven't been able to change their line for 5 straight stoppages. And the other team has lost 5 straight offensive zone draws.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Ice the puck repeatedly.
Receive a delay of game penalty for doing so
You are now allowed to ice the puck as much as you want

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

This is a rule change I've been advocating for years.

But here's another one, and it's in similar spirit: if you intentionally deflect the puck out of play in your defensive zone twice in a row, that's delay of game as well. and what I'm referring to is when defensemen and goalies deflect pucks out of play. I think it's in a similar spirit: these are all ways defensive players try to stop play in order to minimize chances in their own zone.

and, frankly, I think it's an aspect of the game that only the most hardened veterans would miss. Constant whistles and stoppages (and, in this case, constantly re-breaking the zone) are boring.

 

[Space Herpe]

How many successive icings in what length of time?

 

[BeastoftheEast85]

I think this could lead to some players getting hurt though. That is if a tired defending player must hold the puck rather than clear it for fear of taking a penalty. He may be forced to put himself in the position to take a nasty hit.

 

[MarkGio]

How many successive icings in what length of time?

2 in 2 minutes

 

[Fish on The Sand]

I've always felt that a better way of doing it would be x number of icings in a period. I've always thought 3 was a good number. Once you've iced the puck 3 times in a period and any successive icings in the same period you get a 2 minute minor for delay of game.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Because successive icings are such a minute possibility of happening that it isn't worth the time to regulate in such a manner.

 

[Brent Burns]

Hence why so many coaches put incredible stock in being good at faceoffs

 

[Docgonzo]

If you get a penalty for icing the puck I think it'll slow the game down, it'll cut down the stretch pass. You'll have shorter passes out of the Dzone leading toward teams clogging up the neutral zone slowing the game down.

 

[SpookyTsuki]

I remember a game, Dont remember when, But Anaheim kept icing the puck over and over , about 4 times in like the span of 30 seconds. I think it should be a penalty. Unless a change of lines happen.

 

[Rangers ftw]

No. But take away the time out possibility.

 

[Risingwind]

Ice the puck repeatedly.
Receive a delay of game penalty for doing so
You are now allowed to ice the puck as much as you want

But the point was that this rule change would break that strategy. During penalties they can't get the critical D-zone faceoffs for icing, which makes it impossible to implement the sure-winning "Win the faceoff -> Ice the puck" tactic.

 

[Curufinwe]

Teams that ice the puck repeatedly are already penalized by not being able to change players.

 

[KingWantsCup]

Ice the puck repeatedly.
Receive a delay of game penalty for doing so
You are now allowed to ice the puck as much as you want

With 1 less man and significantly disadvantaged. The 6 on 5 now turns into a 6 on 4. Good luck icing the puck.