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I have no horse in this race. Always appreciated Canadiens and their community. I think they deserve this one. Too bad the team f***ing sucks when the season is on the line.
 
Lshap said:
Full credit to Columbus. Five wins in a row! Still two big "Ifs" to overcome – Montreal's game and their final game against NYI – but no matter what happens, it's a successful season, a kind of redemption, and something to build on.

Montreal's the second youngest roster in the league, a freshly rebuilt team that wasn't supposed to be in the playoffs, yet here they are – 1 point from clinching a spot. Two points in their last three games is a frustrating tease, but this was after a six-game winning streak. They weren't going to win every game. Nothing's settled yet, but no matter what happens, definitely a successful season for the Habs that bodes well for next season and beyond.

Both teams had huge ups and downs. In the end, whichever team makes it deserves it. Period.
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jackjohnson said:
You think Canucks would not have beaten Montreal or Ottawa if they were in the East? East also has crap teams like Buffalo and their top teams like NJD is weak as hell. Western conference seems much more physical and tougher to beat except maybe Chicago and SJ.
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It’s just the west have a 20 and 25 win team. Bottom two teams in the East have 33 wins. This is a massive difference.
 
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jackjohnson said:
You think Canucks would not have beaten Montreal or Ottawa if they were in the East? East also has crap teams like Buffalo and their top teams like NJD is weak as hell. Western conference seems much more physical and tougher to beat except maybe Chicago and SJ.
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Conveniently left out Nashville and Seattle I see. Anaheim struggle for a good chunk of this season as well. 4 of the 5 worst teams in the 1-32 standings this morning? Western teams. The west is top heavy, the east is more balanced. West has the better teams at the top I will admit, with Winnipeg and Vegas
 
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Viqsi said:
It's funny, I remember preseason debates with Habs fans about our teams being in similar positions and just needing to take that "next step". Didn't expect that'd mean we'd be in lockstep. :)
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Yeah, I think you and I discussed this!

There's something romantic about how these two teams fought off all other suitors and, despite all odds, found their way back to each other.
 
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jackjohnson said:
You think Canucks would not have beaten Montreal or Ottawa if they were in the East? East also has crap teams like Buffalo and their top teams like NJD is weak as hell. Western conference seems much more physical and tougher to beat except maybe Chicago and SJ.
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Canucks have a 0.547P% vs East teams and a 0.561P% vs West teams, if they were in the East and played more games against the East they'd lose points and would have missed out. Ottawa is similar in that they beat the West more than the East (0.582 vs 0.594), lots of free points up for grabs playing West teams.
 
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Everyone saying it should be easy for Montreal because of the Canes' AHL roster playing... not so fast. These kids are basically taking this game as an early audition for next season, so they'll be hungry.
 
Scotlander said:
Canucks have a 0.547P% vs East teams and a 0.561P% vs West teams, if they were in the East and played more games against the East they'd lose points and would have missed out. Ottawa is similar in that they beat the West more than the East (0.582 vs 0.594), lots of free points up for grabs playing West teams.
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You are comparing a very small sample size in the East versus a bigger sample size in the west? Like comparing apples and oranges and you also conveniently take out the travel factor which East has it far easier. I said if Canucks were in the East, not playing in Vancouver but maybe a New York team, they would easily be in playoffs. East has much easier travel schedule, and less physical teams.
 
BB79 said:
Conveniently left out Nashville and Seattle I see. Anaheim struggle for a good chunk of this season as well. 4 of the 5 worst teams in the 1-32 standings this morning? Western teams. The west is top heavy, the east is more balanced. West has the better teams at the top I will admit, with Winnipeg and Vegas
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East still has lots of bad teams in Philly, Buffalo, NYR, Detroit etc.
 
jackjohnson said:
You think Canucks would not have beaten Montreal or Ottawa if they were in the East? East also has crap teams like Buffalo and their top teams like NJD is weak as hell. Western conference seems much more physical and tougher to beat except maybe Chicago and SJ.
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NJD Is a good team that was hampered severely by injuries. They lost their best player for the stretch part of the season and he won't be coming back.

And no, I don't think this year's iteration of the Canucks would beat Ottawa.

jackjohnson said:
The Eastern conference is just too weak as it shows how much less points you need to be in playoffs versus western conference. The fact that a 10th place team in Canucks could easily have clinched playoffs in the East a week ago instead of being eliminated a week ago shows that Western Conference is a much superior conference. Vegas, Dallas, Winnipeg, Colorado are all legit contenders. The only Eastern conference contenders i see in the East are Florida and Washington. Canes will just lose again, while Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Tampa and New Jersey all have holes and weaknesses, with some of them just being new comers to playoffs.
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Also, here are the combined records of Winnipeg, Colorado, Dallas, Vegas and LA against Washington, Toronto, Tampa, Florida and Carolina (the 5 best teams in the East)

Winnipeg: 6-4-0 (they split every series except Washington who they swept 2-0)
Colorado: 5-5-0
Dallas: 3-6-1
Vegas: 3-6-1
LA: 5-5-0

So only Winnipeg managed a winning record because they swept Washington, while the rest of the teams were .500 or had losing records. Hardly the level of dominance you claim.
 
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Been a fun ride to watch. Both teams are extremely flawed and if it wasn't for a flawed WAS team waiting for them in round 1, either team would be looking at a 4-5 game series against CAR, TOR, FLA, or TB that never feels close.

Hoping CBJ gets to finish off the feel good story though. A lot more to celebrate there than a Montreal team that is a -22 GD and is 10-15 points higher in the standings than they should be.
 
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