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Who would be our guy at 9?

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Here are our top 8, I will take it to 10 If we want to continue after that we can or if we wanna mock out our second round picks for something a bit different that is an option as well
1. Lafreniere
2 Byfield
3 Stutzle
4 Drysdale
5 Rossi
6 Raymond
7. Holtz
8. Perfetti In a landslide​
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After all the fuss about taking Sanderson top five, I think he'd be a good pick at nine or later. Here's Pronman's take on him:

Sanderson was leaned on as the top defenseman for the NTDP. He ended the season on a high note at the U18 Five Nations in February co-leading the tournament in scoring. He’s a great skating defenseman in all directions with size that allows him to make a ton of stops. His gap control is excellent, and he killed so many rushes with how well he closed on opponents. He’s also a physical player who shows no hesitancy to close on checks with his body. Sanderson’s top speed is very good, not elite, but he can lead rushes well and isn’t afraid to jump into the play. His edges are excellent, allowing him to spin off pressure, to pivot and walk the offensive blue line very well. He was the PP1 guy for USA, but the main question on him is his offensive upside. He has skill and can make a very good first pass, but I wouldn’t call him a dynamic playmaker. His production may not wow you, but he had a strong NTDP campaign points-wise relative to other top defensemen at his age historically, especially since he didn’t has a U18 World Championship to compete in and he’s a very young 2002 birth date.

Seth Appert, coach of USNTDP U18, on Sanderson: “He’s 6-foot-2, world-class skater, physical, hard. He eats people up. He’s very intelligent. His offensive skill is a complement to how good he is defensively.”
 
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This is where I get weaker in terms of understanding the upside of the prospects. However, if he strongly indicates he would come to the NHL and does not have any complicated contractual commitments etc I would strongly consider Askarov. He’s expected to be a legit NHL starter at the minimum and figures to end up being an Elite if not a franchise goaltender. Given our success with goalies I’d fully expect him to reach his ceiling as a King. We do have some great prospects but it’s a position you can’t have too many options for. Petersen looks like an NHL performer for sure but it’s far from certain he’s a legit starter. Parik and Ingham I both really like but again it’s such a key position I’d be very tempted at the opportunity to get a sure fire starting goaltender. I haven’t voted yet as I’m still pondering, but if I stick to BPA I’d probably take him.

Edit: Went with Askarov.
 
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I could be persuaded to take Jarvis, Sanderson, Lundell, or Askarov here. I went Jarvis as I believe his ceiling is higher than any of the skaters still remaining, especially given his skating. I still don't like the idea of drafting a goalie in the top 10, but recognize that Askarov is talent-wise worthy of the pick.
 
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I went with Jan Mysak because he impressed me in the few games I got to see of him. He's a centre though which I'm trying to steer away from for the Kings but what the heck
 
LAKings88 said:
Went Jarvis too.

Lundell = Jordan Staal

Sanderson = No more shut down first rounders please.
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Lundell = M. Koivu
Sanderson = R. McDonagh

Funny when one changes comparable or actually takes the most common one how perspective can change.

Posted above yet J. Staal yet alone an early and healthy J. Staal would be a great pick at 9 not just good.

The outdated takes on Sanderson are amazing come arm chair GMs. Near every major scout and NHL team sees a two-way top pairing at worst top four guy and numerous have him even going before Drysdale... Meanwhile HF arm-chair GM board think still goes off outdated takes or listens to one or two people who compared him to Forbort, Teubert, McIlrath, etc when outside of being defenders little similarity exists.

Not sure I'd take Sanderson at 4 or over Drysdale yet starting at pick 6-10 I strongly look at consider him. Little separates him and Drysdale (who everyone is comfortable with in the top 5) and wouldn't be shocking to see Sanderson end up better.

Went Lundell though as think his offensive upside is greatly underrated and Kopitar would make the perfect mentor.
 
I'd take Lundell. I think he's pretty underrated by some, but I'd think he'd comfortably become a 2nd line center. Not spectacular, but solid
 
AnThGrt said:
Lundell = M. Koivu
Sanderson = R. McDonagh

Funny when one changes comparable or actually takes the most common one how perspective can change.

Posted above yet J. Staal yet alone an early and healthy J. Staal would be a great pick at 9 not just good.

The outdated takes on Sanderson are amazing come arm chair GMs. Near every major scout and NHL team sees a two-way top pairing at worst top four guy and numerous have him even going before Drysdale... Meanwhile HF arm-chair GM board think still goes off outdated takes or listens to one or two people who compared him to Forbort, Teubert, McIlrath, etc when outside of being defenders little similarity exists.

Not sure I'd take Sanderson at 4 or over Drysdale yet starting at pick 6-10 I strongly look at consider him. Little separates him and Drysdale (who everyone is comfortable with in the top 5) and wouldn't be shocking to see Sanderson end up better.

Went Lundell though as think his offensive upside is greatly underrated and Kopitar would make the perfect mentor.
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Sanderson has a muffin shot and even the 'pro scouts' were hard pressed to tell me what good he does offensively other than compile numbers by virtue of being on PP1. And everyone was so focused on his 23 points in 24 games to end the year that they didn't have effort to explain to me why he only had 4 in 20 to start (numbers may not be exact, going off memory).

Like I said in the other threads you're referencing to slyly mock me, tell me what he does differently than Forbort and I'm all ears. Even Forbort's predraft highlight reel has him dangling and turning people inside-out and sniping from the slot. What's Sanderson's offensive skillset? He's fast, with a good breakout pass, and a shot that can get through. That's about it, right? Guys with similar numbers, like Trouba and Shattenkirk, at least had well-defined offensive abilities that would excel at the next level but Sanderson doesn't have anything noteworthy that'll outshine anyone else for PP1 time or offensive deployment.

I just don't think it's worth going on fishing expeditions for possibly-nonexistent offensive upside this early on. 10 and thereafter? Sure. But 3-8? That's where you get elite offensive talents. Relatively speaking, top-4 d-men are a dime a dozen and MUCH cheaper to acquire. I think Sanderson compares well to Brodin, who was a great pick at #10, but would have been picked too high at 5. Or like Hampus Lindholm. Make sense? Or is that just an outdated, armchair GM take?

If you believe he's got 40-50 point offensive upside, then he's probably worthy of a #3-4 pick, honestly, because that's a #1 dman. And I could even see him taken in the back half of the top-10 if people aren't high on, say, Perfetti. But you also can't talk down on people who don't believe he has that since there's only a half-season of evidence in preferential situations that he can do that and I'm sick of the condescending attitude from these sudden-Sanderson-fans who had him ranked in the 2nd round as recently as December, it's all this "if you don't agree you're just a hater, armchair GM" garbage. Give me some reasoning at least. It's great to find a modern two-way 2nd pairing d-man in the first round, especially one that's next to a sure thing. It's not necessarily worth busting a top-10 pick on it.

I'd rather find a way to get Justin Barron later, personally.

On Lundell, though, I'm 100% on board with you there and agree fully that Kopitar is the perfect mentor.
 
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I would take Bourque, Perreault, Quinn or Jarvis at 9 overall. At the moment I would lean towards Bourque.....
 
AnThGrt said:
Lundell = M. Koivu
Sanderson = R. McDonagh

Funny when one changes comparable or actually takes the most common one how perspective can change.

Posted above yet J. Staal yet alone an early and healthy J. Staal would be a great pick at 9 not just good.

The outdated takes on Sanderson are amazing come arm chair GMs. Near every major scout and NHL team sees a two-way top pairing at worst top four guy and numerous have him even going before Drysdale... Meanwhile HF arm-chair GM board think still goes off outdated takes or listens to one or two people who compared him to Forbort, Teubert, McIlrath, etc when outside of being defenders little similarity exists.

Not sure I'd take Sanderson at 4 or over Drysdale yet starting at pick 6-10 I strongly look at consider him. Little separates him and Drysdale (who everyone is comfortable with in the top 5) and wouldn't be shocking to see Sanderson end up better.

Went Lundell though as think his offensive upside is greatly underrated and Kopitar would make the perfect mentor.
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Didn’t give a comparable for Sanderson.

Just against defense first dmen in the lottery. Guess he could be two-way.

Was fine with Bjornfot after a half day of shocked outrage lol but he was picked 22.

I’d be content with Lundell but I do think Jarvis is on par with Perfetti maybe better all around.
 
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Jake Sanderson is the guy you put with Doughty to enable him, provided he pans out.

He's not the guy to carry a team defensive core.

You don't get a lot of swings at blue chip offensive talent. You DO get a lot of swings at middle pairing dmen and specialists.

I am sorry I am going in so hard on the kid because I really like his game and I very much appreciate great defensive defensemen. Maybe he could be Jaccob Slavin 2.0. But it's still a tough sell with a lottery pick. 10+, absolutely.
 
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This was a hard pic for me. I would love ask her off but I am against picking goalies in the first round unless it’s a later pick. Sanderson does interest me, but in the top 10 I would rather try and go for a homerun. Seeing this there’s a couple Russian prospects that interest me, but LAs luck with Russians has been very disappointing so that has me a little bit jaded. In n all’s fair world I would take Amirov or Khusnutdinov here. I do like Jarvis skating ability, I do like Lundell’s safety but I’m going to gamble on a homerun vs specialist pick in Quinn.

There are so many left-handed defenseman in this draft that can be gone mid first to Late 3 round picks that I don’t wanna use my high first on Sanderson.
 
I see Lundell fitting into this lineup (current and projected) very well.

Outside of the disappointment of drafting 9th, I'd be okay at that spot with any of Quinn, Sanderson, Askarov or Jarvis. This poll highlights just how strong the top 8 or so picks are in this class (so yeah, really hoping they don't fall any lower than that).
 
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funky said:
This was a hard pic for me. I would love ask her off but I am against picking goalies in the first round unless it’s a later pick. Sanderson does interest me, but in the top 10 I would rather try and go for a homerun. Seeing this there’s a couple Russian prospects that interest me, but LAs luck with Russians has been very disappointing so that has me a little bit jaded. In n all’s fair world I would take Amirov or Khusnutdinov here. I do like Jarvis skating ability, I do like Lundell’s safety but I’m going to gamble on a homerun vs specialist pick in Quinn.

There are so many left-handed defenseman in this draft that can be gone mid first to Late 3 round picks that I don’t wanna use my high first on Sanderson.
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Totally agree with all this and there are more than a few people really really bullish on Khusnutdinov but LA's history with Russians has me nope-ing out of that.
 
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