Speculation: Who should be the new GM of the Washington Capitals?
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BiPolar Caps
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I thought Fenton came off as smarter in those youtubes I posted, but maybe smarter isn't better. I don't know.
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This.
And I really like what Lavi brings, but coach should be the new GM's call to fit a clear vision.
txpd
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I don't pretend to know either. its really hard to know who is doing what, where.
champions pedigree. whats your def that?
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Saw a quote from a GM in the NFL a while ago that he has a minimum criteria for his coaching hires - they have to have been excellent in their previous role. Sounds obvious and simple but he means you don't hire the offensive coordinator from the 9th ranked offense to be your new HC, you look for the guy who has the #1 offense.
As for GMs, applying that policy means Benning, or Norm Maciver. They've been AGM for three of the last four Cup winners and 4 total appearances in 4 years. That's excellence, recent excellence, and no other AGM or available unemployed GM has a resume close.
Benning's resume is pretty well known.
Maciver took over as the Hawks DPD in 2006. They drafted Toews, then Kane, and won two cups with two goalies. He's been AGM for 2 years now. He will get a shot soon, if not this year.
One of those two guys should be the pick.
As for GMs, applying that policy means Benning, or Norm Maciver. They've been AGM for three of the last four Cup winners and 4 total appearances in 4 years. That's excellence, recent excellence, and no other AGM or available unemployed GM has a resume close.
Benning's resume is pretty well known.
Maciver took over as the Hawks DPD in 2006. They drafted Toews, then Kane, and won two cups with two goalies. He's been AGM for 2 years now. He will get a shot soon, if not this year.
One of those two guys should be the pick.
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My issue with him; yes, he churns out great D-Men but I've yet to see a good forward come through. At this point, while we need D man, the style that predicates would mean a rebuild and shipping off some of our skill guys because I see nothing to give the implication that they'll be able to do anything but play a Defensive Game as a FO.
Damn, yeah. I just read it. He seems really off the radar though, so I would be somewhat surprised if he's a candidate.
The assessment of the Sharks in general really brings out how consistent their (non-Cup) success has been. It's pretty impressive.
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what about drafting and developing says that fenton is what McPhee was not? not saying anything one way or the other, but you can like or hate on McPhee's system record. The Caps drafted a lot of their own players and seem to have a system with a lot more good players in it.
the main complaints on gmgm was that he was not aggressive in the trade and ufa markets to fill in what the draft didn't bring and the the construction of the team was off.
what about this writeup on Fenton says he can do that?
fedfed
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My vote goes for Joe Will.
Not sold on "Won ring as an assistant GM = better future GM". Winning Stanley Cup as a player doesn't make you better than all players who have not.
Not sold on "Won ring as an assistant GM = better future GM". Winning Stanley Cup as a player doesn't make you better than all players who have not.
ChibiPooky
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More on Joe Will:
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Database/San-Jose-Sharks-On-Thick-Ice/
Very interesting stuff.
So after the Sharks missed the playoffs in '02-'03, the Sharks cleaned house, but kept Will. They then made major off-season moves (including trading the team captain) based on Will's input. Since then, including one year pre-lockout, the Sharks have made the playoffs every year, and been eliminated in the first round only twice.
Sign me up.
OldHat
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McPhee did have his strengths. Drafting may have more to do with Mahoney and the scouting staff.
My biggest gripe with GMGM was simply his seeming aversion to bringing in guys that played like he did. And that is what has held this team back.
There's no guarantee in any approach, but there's less risk in getting a guy who's been a key part of championship roster building, vs getting a guy who's been a part of decent but not great roster building.
Resume matters in the front office. Its how you compare candidates experience. Determining how much they contributed to that success, thats what the interviews and reference checking is for.
Looked at another way. If the AGM we promote achieves the same results for us that he saw at his previous stop, who do you want? Or are you expecting the AGM who never won a Cup someplace else, to figure out how to win one here? Do we expect the hire to achieve better results than he has previously, or the same results? What is more risky?
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The blog post shared in another thread suggested Bob Nicholson. I don't know anything about him. Anyone?
was benning fired recently? hemight be a good choice. truthfully anyone in the bruins organization would probably be great
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I am surprised no one here in the past 7+ years has discussed Brian MacLellan our assistant GM. I dont think he gets the job but how has he escaped even discussion here.
Hextall seems to be stealing credit for the Kings. I more credit Terry Murray that instilled the need to play defense in the young stars before he was let go. Yes, that same defense that landed them a cup, That same mentality we may need here yet seems feared by fans. Was Hextall there when they picked up Schultz? He has been eye balling Holmgren's job and I suspect also his GM mega splash style. No thanks.
Ted has a background in mass CD distribution and hiring ex caps. I wonder if Billington has an inside track being a former player.
Hextall seems to be stealing credit for the Kings. I more credit Terry Murray that instilled the need to play defense in the young stars before he was let go. Yes, that same defense that landed them a cup, That same mentality we may need here yet seems feared by fans. Was Hextall there when they picked up Schultz? He has been eye balling Holmgren's job and I suspect also his GM mega splash style. No thanks.
Ted has a background in mass CD distribution and hiring ex caps. I wonder if Billington has an inside track being a former player.
NobodyBeatsTheWiz
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He'd be ideal for Patrick's role, but he left Hockey Canada to spend more time with the family. Can't see him taking on a gig that would require much more time commitment.
I've been on the Joe Will train for a while, so I'll stay there for now.
Another good write up on Will from a few years ago: http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/01/29/joe-will-arguably-the-best-potential-g-m-nobodys-heard-of/
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