Who replaces Tortorella as Team USA coach for the next World Cup and Olympics?

[Pandaman11]

Jon Cooper, anyone?

Isn't he American?

 

[DyerMaker66*]

Jon Cooper, anyone?

Isn't he American?

He's a Canadian with dual-citizenship

 

[JackSlater]

He's a Canadian with dual-citizenship

Yes, though I believe Cooper is involved with USA Hockey and not with Hockey Canada. I doubt that USA Hockey cares that he was born and raised in Canada. They used Dale Tallon at the Olympics and he was born and raised in Canada, and even represented Canada internationally.

 

[DyerMaker66*]

Yes, though I believe Cooper is involved with USA Hockey and not with Hockey Canada. I doubt that USA Hockey cares that he was born and raised in Canada. They used Dale Tallon at the Olympics and he was born and raised in Canada, and even represented Canada internationally.

They shouldn't care either way. I don't care who coaches Canada's and England's soccer teams, if they can make the best team they're hired.

 

[missingchicklet]

Lavi would be a great choice.

 

[Scrub*]

Gordon Bombay.

 

[Cirris]

Is Bowman a US citizen? If so, he and Ray Shero would be my GM picks.

Stan Bowman is a born Canadian. But a long time US resident. Scotty Bowman still makes his residence in Amherst, NY. Which is hilarious as it's the only NHL club region (Buffalo) where he failed in his tenure to bring a Stanley cup to the club.

The Bowmans, being downtrodden refugees from the cold tundra of Canada would be eligible for citizenship.

 

[Stephen]

Is there something psychologically wrong with John Tortorella? The guy wants to be this tough coach but just comes across as someone who has a poor grip on his own personal issues and lets it affect his professional career.

 

[Based Anime Fan]

kessel was the rightful conn smythe winner.

the fact lamiorello left him off juat shows toronto sour grapes

What?

Lamiorello wasn't part of the US management team bud.

 

[Bleedred]

If Tortorella is still an NHL head coach by the next time the World Cup rolls around (assuming it will be 2020 at the EARLIEST, if not 2024. This is the first one since 2004) then they need to have mandatory and frequent drug testing for NHL management people. And IQ tests as well, particularly targeting whatever GM was dumb enough to give him another chance. Seems like Columbus is his last chance job. I already question the dolts up there for bringing him in. I know that having a current NHL head coaching position is not mandatory for this job, as Torts was currently unemployed at the time this hire was made over a year ago. But I still don't think he'll be anywhere near coaching by the next one. Maybe in the KHL, like Keenan did for a couple years there.

I doubt he coaches if the NHL goes to the Olympics in 2018 though. There's a chance he might still be head coach of Columbus by that time, I think that's the last year on his contract. He might even be an assistant for Team USA, but I don't see him as a head coach again. Especially if 2014 was enough to ensure that Disco Dan didn't get another crack at it, which has been speculated as the reason why he isn't involved at all with this team. I'd imagine there's a good chance that Sullivan is the head coach in 2018, if they don't give Laviolette another crack. He was left off this team too, not sure if he declined or what.

What?

Lamiorello wasn't part of the US management team bud.

I can't remember the last time Lou was part of Team USA hockey.

Maybe in 2006? If not 2002.

I doubt Lou even has a beef with Kessel, considering he was traded outta there about 3 weeks before Lou was even hired in Toronto.

 

[Fenway]

For GM I would look at Rangers GM Jeff Gorton who is 48.

Coach - Mike Sullivan has to be in the mix.

What did Team USA in this week was they just assumed they would beat Europe and the Czech Republic and losing the middle game to Canada would be OK as they would get another shot at them later on.

 

[ijuka]

"A catastrophic selection - An advantage for everyone else" were the headlines a year ago when Tortorella was selected.

Of course, it comes as no surprise they were correct. it's really strange how hockey USA can be so clueless. So many players, most importantly Kane, were completely wasted by Tortorella's awful hockey. The fact that he in his coaching concentrates on completely obvious things like "effort" and "feeling" and "will" and whatever there are that every other coach also considers but also has a proper system leaves the players completely neutered.

They had unbelievably stupid offensive game that consisted of boneheaded decisionmaking and 1v4 attacks. They couldn't get into the zone consistently at all and their only attacking options consisted of brute forcing the puck to the opponent's crease and then brute forcing it in. In some games, not only did they constantly fail to get in the zone, they also completely over-hit and left themselfes out of position, leaving their defense weakened as well. The way they wasted their team's player material was remarkable.

What's especially funny is how Tortorella after the games says that they couldn't find any offense, as if he doesn't understand that it's because of his lack of an offensive system that they don't find any offense. The fact that he's coaching at a league above Pee Wee is unbelievable, let alone NHL.

 

[Stephen]

The doom and gloom surrounding USA hockey is kind of silly when you consider you can flush out 50% of the roster overnight and restock with all those players from Team North America.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

Tortorella and Capuano are horrible. Sullivan hasn't coached a full season yet. Laviolette is one of the better coaches in the NHL.

Agree with you on Laviolette. Curious as to your thoughts on Capuano ?

Thought Capuano did a great job against Florida in the first round of the playoffs.

 

[JackSlater]

Agree with you on Laviolette. Curious as to your thoughts on Capuano ?

Thought Capuano did a great job against Florida in the first round of the playoffs.

Part of it may be due to his mook-like persona, but every time I see the Islanders play I find the decisions perplexing. This is especially true with Tavares, whose role seems to be to prop up limited talents so that they can leave the Islanders for big paydays somewhere else. There is enough talent there to be more competitive than they have been.

Laviolette has gotten a lot out of some not so talented teams, and I liked what he did with Nashville last year. I consider him a top 10 coach in the NHL. People want to anoint Sullivan, but I want to see if he is just another Bylsma. Though, Canadians would probably be happy to see another American coach who, like Bylsma, is happy to basically concede the game before it starts.

 

[Shady Machine]

Sullivan, Lavy, or Cooper (if he can)

 

[Haj]

Mike Sullivan or Peter Laviolette.

 

[InGusWeTrust]

Can't we just hire a foreign coach

OR..how about put up a team with your best talent? Beat them up mentality does not work in international play when the 4th line of one team is better than your first line. HA

 

[Shady Machine]

The doom and gloom surrounding USA hockey is kind of silly when you consider you can flush out 50% of the roster overnight and restock with all those players from Team North America.

The doom and gloom isn't the talent pool, it's the decision makers. If you subtracted out the Johnsons (I like Erik but they need a more dynamic D) on D for Faulk and Shattenkirk, suddenly that team can move the puck and is more dangerous from the point. If you subtract out Abdelkader and Dubinsky for Kessel and Johnson, suddenly that team might have a chance to score a goal every once in a while.

They wouldn't have beaten Canada, but maybe they don't get embarrassed by Team Europe.

 

[I am toxic]

"A catastrophic selection - An advantage for everyone else" were the headlines a year ago when Tortorella was selected.

Of course, it comes as no surprise they were correct. it's really strange how hockey USA can be so clueless. So many players, most importantly Kane, were completely wasted by Tortorella's awful hockey. The fact that he in his coaching concentrates on completely obvious things like "effort" and "feeling" and "will" and whatever there are that every other coach also considers but also has a proper system leaves the players completely neutered.

They had unbelievably stupid offensive game that consisted of boneheaded decisionmaking and 1v4 attacks. They couldn't get into the zone consistently at all and their only attacking options consisted of brute forcing the puck to the opponent's crease and then brute forcing it in. In some games, not only did they constantly fail to get in the zone, they also completely over-hit and left themselfes out of position, leaving their defense weakened as well. The way they wasted their team's player material was remarkable.

What's especially funny is how Tortorella after the games says that they couldn't find any offense, as if he doesn't understand that it's because of his lack of an offensive system that they don't find any offense. The fact that he's coaching at a league above Pee Wee is unbelievable, let alone NHL.

This.

Having said that, Torts can be great away from coaching (see his charity work). He should have been a TV commentator long before NYR let him go.

I would go with Sully as next coach, but unless USA Hockey selects the most talented players it would be a thankless task.

 

[Cult of Hynes]

Have a staff of Sullivan - Lavi - Hynes

Sulluvan won a Cup
Lavi did decently well with a subpar Flyers team and is doing good with Nashville
Hynes did decently well with a subpar Devils team and was successful with WBS

Pretty much what I thought it should have been for the World Cup. I'd go with that for the Olympics if the NHL is involved.
Btw, Lavi won a cup in Carolina in 06.

 

[Burke the Legend]

You know why Canada is so good? Because of depth. Elite depth, not gritty depth. They can roll 4 lines and score with any line. Who do you defend? Kane and Pavelski are shadowed, even double-teamed every shift because who are they gunna pass it to? Abdelkader? Backes? There's too few threats on the team.

The majority of the blame is definitely on the coaches and management. They did an absolutely awful job of constructing and coaching the roster.

Basically every forward on Canada is an all star who has put up a recent 70+ point season. That is unmatchable forward depth.

Adding a Gaudreau-Johnson-Kessel line and removing some plugs gets the USA a bit closer to matching that talent but they still come up short. Canada still has a huge edge on defence talent wise. They don't even like activating their killer D into the play because they rather not take chances, just let the depth of talent up front overwhelm the opposition.

The good news is USA basically matches Canada in goaltending, so the big hope would be an outstanding goaltending performance and a the forwards squeek a couple in and you hold on for dear life. Tougher to do in a best of 3.

 

[fouba]

gordon ramsay

 

[Nordique]

I like Sullivan, and he's cut from very similar cloth as Torts fwiw.

 

[SanDogBrewin]

This is especially true with Tavares, whose role seems to be to prop up limited talents so that they can leave the Islanders for big paydays somewhere else. There is enough talent there to be more competitive than they have been.

That might have more to do with Snow and Islanders ownership.