Who do you want to KEEP on the Summer Prospect List?

[The Crypto Guy]

Over the last couple lists we have gotten away from following the strict HF criteria guidelines as to who is considered a prospect. Normally its if you play 65 NHL games you are no longer a prospect (45 for goalies) or turns 24 (3 years after signing contract for NCAA players 22 years old or older).

We would have several players, if we follow the criteria, who are just considered as "graduated" so I'm making the poll to see which players you want kept on, at least for this ranking, this would be their last time on the list if we keep them.

The Summer Prospect List will start next Saturday after the draft is completed.

Boo Nieves is considered now graduated, he was granted permission to stay on the last list. Can someone confirm whether or not Virta and Meskanen are still Ranger property.

Ranger's Winter 2019 Prospect Ranking

1. Vitali Kravtsov (F) (2018 Draft - 1st round) (+2)
2. Filip Chytil (F) (2017 Draft - 1st round) (-1)
3. Igor Shestyorkin (G) (2014 Draft - 4th round) (-1)
4. Lias Andersson (F) (2017 Draft - 1st round) (E)
5. K'Andre Miller (D) (2018 Draft - 1st round) (+2)
6. Brett Howden (F) (2016 Draft - 1st round) (E)
7. Nils Lundqvist (D) (2018 Draft - 1st round) (+2)
8. Libor Hajek (D) (2016 Draft - 2nd round) (-3)
9. Alexander Georgiev (G) (Undrafted) (+2)
10. Joey Keane (D) (2018 Draft - 3rd round) (+14)
11. Yegor Rykov (D) (2016 Draft - 5th round (+1)
12. Ryan Lindgren (D) (2016 Draft - 2nd round) (-2)
13. Tarmo Reunanen (D) (2016 Draft - 4th round (NR)
14. Morgan Barron (F) (2017 Draft - 6th round (+4)
15. Boo Nieves (F) (2012 Draft - 2nd round (+7)
16. Ville Meskanen (F) (Undrafted) (E)
17. Tim Gettinger (F) (2016 Draft - 5th round (+10)
18. Vinni Lettieri (F) (Undrafted) (-4)
19. Jacob Ragnarsson (D) (2018 Draft - 3rd round) (-2)
20. Nico Gross (D) (2018 Draft- 4th round) (+10)
21. Lauri Pajuniemi (F) (2018 Draft - 5th round) (E)
22. Chris Bigras (D) (2013 Draft- 2nd round) (+7)
23. Calle Sjalin (D) (2017 Draft - 5th Round) (NR) )
24. Gabriel Fontaine (F) (2016 Draft - 6th Round) (+4)
25. Olof Lindbom (G) (2018 Draft - 2nd round) (-2)
26. Adam Huska (G) (2015 Draft - 7th round) (-1)
27. Sean Day (D) (2016 Draft - 3rd round) (-12)
28. Patrik Virta (F) (2017 Draft - 7th round) (-9)
29. Tyler Wall (G) (2016 Draft - 6th Round) (NR)
30. Riley Hughes (F) (2018 Draft - 7th Round) (NR)

Honorable Mentions: (alphabetically)
Brandon Crawley (D) (2017 Draft -4th Round)
Steven Fogarty (F) (2011 Draft - 3rd round)
John Gilmour (D) (2013 Draft - 7th Round
Ryan Gropp (F) ( 2015 Draft - 2nd Round)
Ty Ronning (F) (2016 Draft - 7th round)

Didn't make the cut:
Daniel Bernhardt (F)
Brandon Halverson (G)
Simon Kjellberg (D)
Domink Lakatos (F)
Daweson Leedahl (F)
Tyler Nanne (D)
Chris Nell (G)
Rob O'Gara (D)


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[The Crypto Guy]

I voted keep Chytil and Howden. I'd like to see a complete list with all the young players, even if they barely passed the criteria.

 

[nyr2k2]

Virta is no longer our property.

Meskanen has another year left on his ELC.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Well if they get removed after that list anyhow, just keep em in. Except for the 26 year olds.

 

[nyr2k2]

I'm removing everyone because I still follow the HF guidelines.

Also, Bigras is an RFA and may not be qualified.

John Gilmour is a UFA, and even if you considered him still a prospects, he's not our property at the moment.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Well if they get removed after that list anyhow, just keep em in. Except for the 26 year olds.

It caused an uproar one year, so we do polls now to see what the majority want.

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

The only one I’d keep on is Bigras, and only if he gets resigned

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I'm removing everyone because I still follow the HF guidelines.

Also, Bigras is an RFA and may not be qualified.

John Gilmour is a UFA, and even if you considered him still a prospects, he's not our property at the moment.

Thanks, depending on whether or not we re-sign them i'll keep/remove them depending on results (which i assume will be to remove them anyway)

 

[nyr2k2]

Also, with the HF standard, Georgiev would also be gone by virtue of his 43 games played. Which I agree with--he got a cup of coffee two seasons ago and last year he played 33 games, which is full-time backup territory. I would consider him graduated as well.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Also, with the HF standard, Georgiev would also be gone by virtue of his 43 games played. Which I agree with--he got a cup of coffee two seasons ago and last year he played 33 games, which is full-time backup territory. I would consider him graduated as well.

Goalies is 45 games, so he barely makes it.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I'm persnickety. I say we go by the letter of the old rules.

 

[nyr2k2]

Thanks, depending on whether or not we re-sign them i'll keep/remove them depending on results (which i assume will be to remove them anyway)

My only advice there would be to just wait a bit. The deadline to qualify RFA's is June 25th or the first Monday after the Draft. The Draft ends the 22nd and therefore the RFA's must be qualified by Monday, June 24th. This also affects Julius Bergman, Lettieri, Nell, and Halverson, who (except for Lettieri, IMO) are unlikely to be qualified and therefore wouldn't be our prospects.

Lastly , if we're not abiding by the games played requirement you could also make an argument that Brendan Lemieux is a prospect, as he is 23 almost all of next year and currently has 72 games to his credit.

 

[nyr2k2]

Goalies is 45 games, so he barely makes it.

You're right, I thought it was 35. My bad.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

My only advice there would be to just wait a bit. The deadline to qualify RFA's is June 25th of the first Monday after the Draft. The Draft ends the 22nd and therefore the RFA's must be qualified by Monday, June 24th. This also affects Julius Bergman, Lettieri, Nell, and Halverson, who (except for Lettieri, IMO) are unlikely to be qualified and therefore wouldn't be our prospects.

Lastly laugh, if we're not abiding by the games played requirement you could also make an argument that Brendan Lemieux is a prospect, as he is 23 almost all of next year and currently has 72 games to his credit.

The first week will be all the top prospects anyway, so the RFAs wouldn't even be voted into the poll for a week or 2 anyway, plus i'm really iching to get the poll started

Ah you're right! I should have added Lemieux...let me see if I can change the poll..

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Lemieux was added to the poll...you can change your votes to vote whether to add him or not.

 

[nyr2k2]

The first week will be all the top prospects anyway, so the RFAs wouldn't even be voted into the poll for a week or 2 anyway, plus i'm really iching to get the poll started

Ah you're right! I should have added Lemieux...let me see if I can change the poll..

For sure. Particularly if people vote to keep guys like Howden and Chytil on there, when you add in our draft picks, it's going to be one of the most interesting polls in memory, IMO.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

For sure. Particularly if people vote to keep guys like Howden and Chytil on there, when you add in our draft picks, it's going to be one of the most interesting polls in memory, IMO.

Absolutely! Will easily be our most impressive list ever.

 

[Off Sides]

Not that it matters, he who goes through the trouble of making the polls gets my vote on however he wants to run them.


Yet many who are going to be considered graduated by games played, I do feel are still prospects.

 

[ElLeetch]

gonna be a real shock to see who takes the #1 slot this time around.

 

[nyr2k2]

I voted keep Chytil and Howden. I'd like to see a complete list with all the young players, even if they barely passed the criteria.

Last	First	Note
Andersson	Lias
Barron	Morgan
Bergman	Julius	RFA
Bigras	Chris	RFA/Graduated
Chytil	Filip	Graduated
Crawley	Brandon
Day	Sean
DeAngelo	Anthony	RFA/Graduated
Elmer	Jacob
Fogarty	Steven	Graduated
Fontaine	Gabriel
Fox	Adam
Georgiev	Alexandar
Gettinger	Tim
Gilmour	John	UFA/Graduated
Gropp	Ryan
Gross	Nico
Hajek	Libor
Halverson	Brandon	RFA
Howden	Brett	Graduated
Hughes	Riley
Huska	Adam
Keane	Joey
Kjellberg	Patrick
Kravtsov	Vitali
Leedahl	Dawson
Lemieux	Brendan	RFA/Graduated
Lettieri	Vinni	RFA
Lindbom	Olof
Lindgren	Ryan
Lundkvist	Nils
Meskanen	Ville
Miller	K'Andre
Nanne	Tyler
Nell	Chris	RFA
Newell	Patrick
O'Gara	Rob	UFA/Graduated
Pajuniemi	Lauri
Pionk	Neal	RFA/Graduated
Raddysh	Darren
Ragnarsson	Jacob
Reunanen	Tarmo
Ronning	Ty
Rykov	Yegor
Shesterkin	Igor
Sjalin	Calle
Wall	Tyler

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

This is that list, including guys like O'Gara and Gilmour that graduated and are also UFA, guys that graduated like DeAngelo and Pionk that graduated, and guys like Lettieri and Halverson that are RFA.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Last	First	Note
Andersson	Lias
Barron	Morgan
Bergman	Julius	RFA
Bigras	Chris	RFA/Graduated
Chytil	Filip	Graduated
Crawley	Brandon
Day	Sean
DeAngelo	Anthony	Graduated
Elmer	Jacob
Fogarty	Steven	Graduated
Fontaine	Gabriel
Fox	Adam
Georgiev	Alexandar
Gettinger	Tim
Gilmour	John	UFA/Graduated
Gropp	Ryan
Gross	Nico
Hajek	Libor
Halverson	Brandon	RFA
Howden	Brett	Graduated
Hughes	Riley
Huska	Adam
Keane	Joey
Kjellberg	Patrick
Kravtsov	Vitali
Leedahl	Dawson
Lemieux	Brendan	Graduated
Lettieri	Vinni	RFA/Graduated
Lindbom	Olof
Lindgren	Ryan
Lundkvist	Nils
Meskanen	Ville
Miller	K'Andre
Nanne	Tyler
Nell	Chris	RFA
Newell	Patrick
O'Gara	Rob	UFA/Graduated
Pajuniemi	Lauri
Pionk	Neal	Graduated
Raddysh	Darren
Ragnarsson	Jacob
Reunanen	Tarmo
Ronning	Ty
Rykov	Yegor
Shesterkin	Igor
Sjalin	Calle
Wall	Tyler

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

This is that list, including guys like O'Gara and Gilmour that graduated and are also UFA, guys that graduated like DeAngelo and Pionk that graduated, and guys like Lettieri and Halverson that are RFA.

Thanks for this! DeAngelo and Pionk werent included in the last list, i think we did a poll and they were shot down. Lettieri is still eligible since he signed his first contract out of the NCAA at 22 and according to the criteria he gets 3 years after that point or 65 games (Unless i'm misunderstanding it).

 

[nyr2k2]

Thanks for this! DeAngelo and Pionk werent included in the last list, i think we did a poll and they were shot down. Lettieri is still eligible since he signed his first contract out of the NCAA at 22 and according to the criteria he gets 3 years after that point or 65 games (Unless i'm misunderstanding it).

Yeah Lettieri is 100% not graduated, it was just an auto-fill error when typing that in Excel. My bad again. LOL.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I agree with nyr2k2. Let's stick to the HF standard, and if we want, we can make a separate poll to rank our graduated/younger players like Chytil, Lias, etc.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I agree with nyr2k2. Let's stick to the HF standard, and if we want, we can make a separate poll to rank our graduated/younger players like Chytil, Lias, etc.

Lias isnt graduated. We have had exceptions in recent polls, which is why the poll was created.

Howden and chytil barely passed the mark to be considered graduated. I’m hope to see them in the Ranking one last time around.

 

[Joey Bones]

Old HF rules please!!