Who do you Draft with Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Mickov off the board.

[Habs Halifax]

Time to face probability. Looks like we will have a pick from 5-10 range so lets say we have the 5th pick (hypothetical). Who are you taking? Curious to see the voting results.

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[salbutera]

Let’s state this again when NYR selected Lafreniere 1OA and Kakko 2OA they had finished the regular seasons in 6OA & 9OA draft slots - winning back-to-back lotteries…

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Whoever speaks the best french out of those guys

 

[Doublechin]

The reality is that Benson will go between 4 to 6 and it's looking very hard for us to fall in in there

We most likely go 1, 2 or 3

Or 7,8 or 9

As of 7 and 8, I'd start leaning towards Leonard or Moore personally

 

[BergevinBurner]

I'd be leaning towards Benson or Smith at 5th. But with all the teams around us getting weaker it's starting to look like 7-10th overall could be more likely.

If that's the case I'd probably go for Dvorsky for a potential all Slovak line in a few years,

 

[Habs Halifax]

I'd be leaning towards Benson or Smith at 5th. But with all the teams around us getting weaker it's starting to look like 7-10th overall could be more likely.

If that's the case I'd probably go for Dvorsky for a potential all Slovak line in a few years,

I understand we might have 7-10 range but would you assume the general consensus ends up being Benson at 5th? Are all these guys in the voting options close to a waive of talent?

I usually don't look into prospects until this point of the season and I plan on digging into that 5-10 waive a bit more. At first glance, I'm not drooling over any of them.

 

[danyhabsfan]

We're 8th now. 1 point behind St-Louis.

Benson and Smith will be gone.

 

[BergevinBurner]

I understand we might have 7-10 range but would you assume the general consensus ends up being Benson at 5th? Are all these guys in the voting options close to a waive of talent?

I usually don't look into prospects until this point of the season and I plan on digging into that 5-10 waive a bit more. At first glance, I'm not drooling over any of them.

I don't follow it overly close, but from what I've seen Benson and Smith seem likely to go top 7 and guys like Dvorsky/Yager have been falling a bit as the year went on.

 

[danyhabsfan]

You should make a poll without Smith and Benson.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Let’s state this again when NYR selected Lafreniere 1OA and Kakko 2OA they had finished the regular seasons in 6OA & 9OA draft slots - winning back-to-back lotteries…

If it's rigged, they should rig it for Montreal. We have not had a star or 100 pt guy in many years and Bedard can make a shit load of extra revenue in Montreal. The funny part of me wonders about us not winning lottery #1 but we get the 2nd lottery with the Panthers pick. Then we don't trade either the Habs or Panthers pick for Dubois and that would change the dynamics of what the Jets ask for. If that happens, I'm leaning towards waiting for him to reach UFA.

However, I'm willing to bet a team from 3-8 range gets Bedard. I want to stay in that range 5-8, based on what is reachable.

You should make a poll without Smith and Benson.

Maybe we can later. For now, 5th is still reachable. I do see where you are going though, but not sure Benson and Smith are a waive of talent after the Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov waive. From what I see, the waive after that is 5-10. I just don't see enough clear cut context to make a separation at this point in time.

 

[danyhabsfan]

If it's rigged, they should rig it for Montreal. We have not had a star or 100 pt guy in many years and Bedard can make a shit load of extra revenue in Montreal. The funny part of me wonders about us not winning lottery #1 but we get the 2nd lottery with the Panthers pick. Then we don't trade either the Habs or Panthers pick for Dubois and that would change the dynamics of what the Jets ask for. If that happens, I'm leaning towards waiting for him to reach UFA.

However, I'm willing to bet a team from 3-8 range gets Bedard. I want to stay in that range 5-8, based on what is reachable.



Maybe we can later. For now, 5th is still reachable. I do see where you are going though, but not sure Benson and Smith are a waive of talent after the Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov waive. From what I see, the waive after that is 5-10. I just don't see enough clear cut context to make a separation at this point in time.

Benson and Smith are the consensus top 6. You can see it in the voting already.

 

[Colezuki]

Benson and Smith are the consensus top 6. You can see it in the voting already.

and theres a chance we end up there, we're still projected to finish 6th base don schedule

 

[Habs Halifax]

Benson and Smith are the consensus top 6. You can see it in the voting already.

So the waive is this? I see this changing before the season is over.

Bedard
Fantilli, Carlsson,
Michkov (wild card)
Benson, Smith
The others

I got to admit, not super excited to be drafting in that waive even if we get 5th. I guess it's time to dig and dig into more scouting context with that group.

I also think there is a decent chance Michkov slips. If Benson and Smith separate themselves and close the gap on Michkov, it could very well happen.

 

[danyhabsfan]

So the waive is this? I see this changing before the season is over.

Bedard
Fantilli, Carlsson,
Michkov (wild card)
Benson, Smith
The others

I got to admit, not super excited to be drafting in that waive even if we get 5th. I guess it's time to dig and dig into more scouting context with that group.

I also think there is a decent chance Michkov slips. If Benson and Smith separate themselves and close the gap on Michkov, it could very well happen.

That's why we need a top 6 pick.
Most people don't understand that it's not for the additional 2% chance to get Bedard but to have Benson/Smith over the next wave.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Bob's top 10 from Sept
1) Bedard
2) Michkov
3) Fantilli
4) Jager
5) Carlsson
6) Ritchie
7) Benson
8) Allen
9) Dvorsky
10) Stramel

Bob's top 10 from Jan
1) Bedard
2) Fantilli
3) Carlsson
4) Michkov
5) Benson
6) Smith
7) Yager
8) Barlow
9) Dvorsky
10) Leonard

 

[Canadienna]

Picked Benson, but if Dvorsky could pick it back up a bit he'd be a fun pick also.

Mesar - Dvorsky - Slaf would be a fun Slovak line

 

[Habs Halifax]

That's why we need a top 6 pick.
Most people don't understand that it's not for the additional 2% chance to get Bedard but to have Benson/Smith over the next wave.

I'm not sure Benson and Smith are locked in at that spot yet though. Others can believe it but I've seen way too much movement in the draft over the years.

I hope you are right and teams take Benson and Smith before Michkov

 

[Scriptor]

I'd be leaning towards Benson or Smith at 5th. But with all the teams around us getting weaker it's starting to look like 7-10th overall could be more likely.

If that's the case I'd probably go for Dvorsky for a potential all Slovak line in a few years,

That's like going ALL-IN on Slovakia over two drafts and, honestly, once you've done that, you might have to settle for one of the best third line in the NHL and play them as an offensive exploitation third line. I know, a 1st OA and two other 1st round picks, including another top-10!

Caufield - Suzuki - Dach
XXX - Beck - XXX
Slafkovsky - Dvorak - Mesar
XXX - Evans/Tierney/Other crap - XXX

Is that good enough a strategy or, more precisely different enough a strategy than under the Danault days?

The 2nd line (not the first, this time) would be a shutdown line, most likely, with Beck as a 2nd line C. maybe that line gets made up of defensively capable, but offensive wingers like Farrell and Roy.

Caufield - Suzuki - Dach
Farrell - Beck - Roy
Slafkovsky - Dvorak - Mesar
XXX - Evans/Tierney/Other crap - XXX

Anybody jumping for joy and looking at a potential Cup run with that top-9?

Who knows, with a strong starting G and a strong puck-moving D with some size, maybe?

It's looking at a lineup like this that adding a C like Dubois makes the team much better:

Caufield - Suzuki - Dach
Farrell - Dubois - Roy
Slafkovsky - Dvorak - Mesar
RHP/???/UFA - Beck - Heineman

Hutson - ???
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Barron/Harris
Engstrom

If that lineup isn't very solid, it is but a couple of players and a G away from being that.

 

[SlafySZN]

We're 8th now. 1 point behind St-Louis.

Benson and Smith will be gone.

Might not be, maybe at 8 but Benson could drop a little, i think.

 

[OnceWasNot]

How disappointing and frustrating it is that the one year the Habs properly commit to tanking and win the draft lottery they get an underwhelming 1OA like Slaf, then the next year with an injury-riddled team that should be as bad or worse on paper and an exceptional top 4 awaiting at the draft, they're managing to play their way out of the bottom 5 like it's 2015-16 all over again.

 

[salbutera]

If it's rigged, they should rig it for Montreal. We have not had a star or 100 pt guy in many years and Bedard can make a shit load of extra revenue in Montreal. The funny part of me wonders about us not winning lottery #1 but we get the 2nd lottery with the Panthers pick. Then we don't trade either the Habs or Panthers pick for Dubois and that would change the dynamics of what the Jets ask for. If that happens, I'm leaning towards waiting for him to reach UFA.

However, I'm willing to bet a team from 3-8 range gets Bedard. I want to stay in that range 5-8, based on what is reachable.

Since the draft lottery was introduced 28-drafts ago in 1995:
- 13 times has the winner been the last place team during regular season
- 8 times has the winner been a non bottom-3 team during regular season (4-of those post 2004 lockout)

 

[Team_Spirit]

Easy

 

[Egresch]

That's like going ALL-IN on Slovakia over two drafts and, honestly, once you've done that, you might have to settle for one of the best third line in the NHL and play them as an offensive exploitation third line. I know, a 1st OA and two other 1st round picks, including another top-10!

Caufield - Suzuki - Dach
XXX - Beck - XXX
Slafkovsky - Dvorak - Mesar
XXX - Evans/Tierney/Other crap - XXX

Is that good enough a strategy or, more precisely different enough a strategy than under the Danault days?

The 2nd line (not the first, this time) would be a shutdown line, most likely, with Beck as a 2nd line C. maybe that line gets made up of defensively capable, but offensive wingers like Farrell and Roy.

Caufield - Suzuki - Dach
Farrell - Beck - Roy
Slafkovsky - Dvorak - Mesar
XXX - Evans/Tierney/Other crap - XXX

Anybody jumping for joy and looking at a potential Cup run with that top-9?

Who knows, with a strong starting G and a strong puck-moving D with some size, maybe?

It's looking at a lineup like this that adding a C like Dubois makes the team much better:

Caufield - Suzuki - Dach
Farrell - Dubois - Roy
Slafkovsky - Dvorak - Mesar
RHP/???/UFA - Beck - Heineman

Hutson - ???
Guhle - Mailloux
Xhekaj - Barron/Harris
Engstrom

If that lineup isn't very solid, it is but a couple of players and a G away from being that.

Do you mean Dvorak or Dvorsky?

 

[Habs Halifax]

How disappointing and frustrating it is that the one year the Habs properly commit to tanking and win the draft lottery they get an underwhelming 1OA like Slaf, then the next year with an injury-riddled team that should be as bad or worse on paper and an exceptional top 4 awaiting at the draft, they're managing to play their way out of the bottom 5 like it's 2015-16 all over again.

Might happen that way but it's not done yet. Wait till post lottery and final draft rankings. U18's will change things a bit

 

[BLNY]

I liked what I saw from Dvorsky at the WJC. He's having pretty strong year in Sweden.