Who among these hall of very good/borderline active players will eventually be inducted into the HHOF?

[Felidae]

We all know the obvious locks.

So I tried to pick players that will end up being hall of very good or borderline cases by the time their careers end, or are currently at that stage. A few on here are not currently playing but technically still active. Every player on the list is over 25.

Pick who you think will eventually be inducted into the HHOF

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[Felidae]

I'm just gonna throw it out there and say i think Giroux is basically a gaurenteed HHOFer and has the best case out of everyone here...but he seems to be questioned alot when induction is discussed, so I added him

 

[Letsdothis]

Some of them are obviously going to make it, but I'm not sure that I feel confident in voting anyone to make it either. Does any one player have more than 50% chance of making it in at their current trajectory?

 

[Caps8112]

what is the minimum to make it? What more can the Old guys do to change anything? None of the young guys are doing anything that says for sure they are the right path

 

[hamzarocks]

Not making it:

Taylor Hall
Tyler Seguin
Jamie Benn
Jusse Saros
RoR
Stone
Kessel
Giordano
Slavin
Tarasenko
Shesterkin
Miller
Ulmark
Sorokon
McAvoy

Shesterkin, Sorokin and Saros need to do a lot more since their careers are quite short at the NHL level.

The rest either had injuries ruin their case, or were not good enough long enough/consistently enough to be hall of fame, or played at level just below HHOF level for their prime

 

[Xspyrit]

I can't see Eichel and Kaprizov not making it. Projecting there of course.

Giroux, Matthew Tkachuk, Point, Letang and Rantanen should be strong candidates

Mark Stone should be too but injuries affected his career too much and will keep him off it.

Marner, Burns, Tavares, Shesterkin, Panarin, Backstrom will have arguments I guess

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Shesterkin, Sorokin and Saros need to do a lot more since their careers are quite short at the NHL level.

Don’t know why you’re grouping these three together, as if their accomplishments are the same.

Shestyorkin only needs one more major award and he’s in, especially considering he’s been one of the best playoff performers of his era and has been regarded as the best goaltender in the NHL for at least a year or two (and it likely won’t end immediately, so we are likely talking about at least a few years reign as that).

 

[hamzarocks]

Don’t know why you’re grouping these three together, as if their accomplishments are the same.

Shestyorkin only needs one more major award and he’s in, especially considering he’s been one of the best playoff performers of his era and has been regarded as the best goaltender in the NHL for at least a year or two (and it likely won’t end immediately, so we are likely talking about at least a few years reign as that).

He has 232 games played so for his career and hes 28/29

Has a .908 sv% this year, so not an year where he wins the vezina.

Tim thomas has 2 vezina's, 1 of the best playoff runs ever + smythe and 426 Games played and isnt in the hall yet I believe.

He needs to be healthy, play another 300 games and be good to great in them along with continue playoffs

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He has 232 games played so for his career and hes 28/29

Has a .908 sv% this year, so not an year where he wins the vezina.

Tim thomas has 2 vezina's, 1 of the best playoff runs ever + smythe and 426 Games played and isnt in the hall yet I believe.

He needs to be healthy, play another 300 games and be good to great in them along with continue playoffs

Your argument doesn’t make much sense and I don’t accept all of your premises either.

Just because one guy isn’t in doesn’t mean we should use that as the watermark for all others at that position. Should all wingers who don’t clear Mogilny not get in? Because that’s what your argument sounds like.

I think if you have a decently long career as one of the best in the league and you pick up two pieces of major individual hardware you should get in. That’s the argument for Bobrovsky and why many think he’s in, regardless of winning the Cup last year.

And we’re 10 weeks into the season this year. He was the Vezina leader 5 weeks in. Team has a few bad weeks. I don’t accept your premise about the Vezina trophy when we’re in December.

 

[bobholly39]

Fun poll, and for once the names listed are actual borderline names. I did a first pass only, and voted for who jumped out at me. A lot are close. Here's who I voted for:

Marner. Fantastic career/prime. bad playoffs won't keep him out, he's a hall of famer
Matthew Tkachuk. A bit earlier in his career, but strong, and the cup helps
Rantanen. Great regular season and playoffs, very consistent. HOF'er
Eichel. He's had a lot of health issues obviously, but rebounding nicely in Vegas. He'll make it
Mark Stone. I'm surprised to see he never won the Selke, and has a quite low career games played...I might be wrong, but first thought was yes.
Letang. Slam dunk. Long, successful career.
Tavares. Very strong first half with NYI, and I suspect he ends up with nice career totals
McAvoy. He's far away, but I like his consistency and he strikes me as a type of defender who will age very well.
Brayden Point - yes. Easy one, playoff success and performances help him
Shesterkin. Yes. Only 4 seasons so far, but very strong, and I expect he continues to add
Kaprizov. Short prime so far, but fantastic player, should end with a strong career
Panarin. Yes, like Kaprizov, just longer prime/career already
Giroux. I'd personally say hall of very good, but I do think he makes it.

 

[HFpapi]

I can't see Eichel and Kaprizov not making it. Projecting there of course.

Eichel. He's had a lot of health issues obviously, but rebounding nicely in Vegas. He'll make it

Why Eichel?

We all know his career numbers are a product of bad injury luck and that he's much better on the ice than his career to date suggests, but that's part of the game. Your career is what it is.

Eichel has ZERO HOF resume when you look at the hard facts. He's a 28 year old with a career high 82 points, below career ppg, only 553 points in total, zero individual awards or post season all-star teams.

He has truly nothing going for him HOF wise even if he has HOF talent. One Stanley Cup where you don't even win the Conn can't do that much heavy lifting.

If he hits 100 points this season and strings together another 4-5 seasons like this then we'll talk.

 

[Felidae]

Fun poll, and for once the names listed are actual borderline names. I did a first pass only, and voted for who jumped out at me. A lot are close. Here's who I voted for:

Marner. Fantastic career/prime. bad playoffs won't keep him out, he's a hall of famer
Matthew Tkachuk. A bit earlier in his career, but strong, and the cup helps
Rantanen. Great regular season and playoffs, very consistent. HOF'er
Eichel. He's had a lot of health issues obviously, but rebounding nicely in Vegas. He'll make it
Mark Stone. I'm surprised to see he never won the Selke, and has a quite low career games played...I might be wrong, but first thought was yes.
Letang. Slam dunk. Long, successful career.
Tavares. Very strong first half with NYI, and I suspect he ends up with nice career totals
McAvoy. He's far away, but I like his consistency and he strikes me as a type of defender who will age very well.
Brayden Point - yes. Easy one, playoff success and performances help him
Shesterkin. Yes. Only 4 seasons so far, but very strong, and I expect he continues to add
Kaprizov. Short prime so far, but fantastic player, should end with a strong career
Panarin. Yes, like Kaprizov, just longer prime/career already
Giroux. I'd personally say hall of very good, but I do think he makes it.

Yeah I think everyone you listed is making the HHOF (even if I personally wouldn't induct a few)

I think the only one I disagree with is Mark stone. His Selke record is surprisingly weak for someone who is thought of as one of the best defensive forwards in the league.

A Winger like Lethinen who has a much better Selke records and played on Cup winning teams and isnt even in yet. You could say that Mark stone is better offensively. But the gap isn't humongous and neither are getting in on their offensive talent alone anyways

 

[Xspyrit]

Why Eichel?

We all know his career numbers are a product of bad injury luck and that he's much better on the ice than his career to date suggests, but that's part of the game. Your career is what it is.

Eichel has ZERO HOF resume when you look at the hard facts. He's a 28 year old with a career high 82 points, below career ppg, only 553 points in total, zero individual awards or post season all-star teams.

He has truly nothing going for him HOF wise even if he has HOF talent. One Stanley Cup where you don't even win the Conn can't do that much heavy lifting.

If he hits 100 points this season and strings together another 4-5 seasons like this then we'll talk.

As I said, "projecting there of course" so I am assuming the Eichel of today is going to peak for several years.

Daniel Alfredsson didn't have an exceptional resume at 28 y/o so who knows?

 

[bobholly39]

Why Eichel?

We all know his career numbers are a product of bad injury luck and that he's much better on the ice than his career to date suggests, but that's part of the game. Your career is what it is.

Eichel has ZERO HOF resume when you look at the hard facts. He's a 28 year old with a career high 82 points, below career ppg, only 553 points in total, zero individual awards or post season all-star teams.

He has truly nothing going for him HOF wise even if he has HOF talent. One Stanley Cup where you don't even win the Conn can't do that much heavy lifting.

If he hits 100 points this season and strings together another 4-5 seasons like this then we'll talk.

Eichel is in a fantastic position in Vegas right now...and he seems finally healthy, and off to a great start this season. Great in his first playoff run.

Essentially, I'm predicting exactly what the bolded says, him to finally get a stretch of solid seasons together. Doesn't mean he's a hall of famer today, just that I predict he adds enough to eventually make it.

Yeah I think everyone you listed is making the HHOF (even if I personally wouldn't induct a few)

I think the only one I disagree with is Mark stone. His Selke record is surprisingly weak for someone who is thought of as one of the best defensive forwards in the league.

A Winger like Lethinen who has a much better Selke records and played on Cup winning teams and isnt even in yet. You could say that Mark stone is better offensively. But the gap isn't humongous and neither are getting in on their offensive talent alone anyways

Yeah I don't feel too strongly about Stone the more I think about it. My gut said yes at first look so I kept him, but his career numbers are quite low for his age.

I guess for Stone - just like Eichel - he's in a great position in Vegas, and off to a great start this season, with some potential playoff succes over next few years. So if he could string together a super solid ~2-3 years, maybe it gives him enough of a bump, but you're right, it's an uphill battle.

 

[bland]

I am not certain any of those players make it, to be honest. Still plenty of time for most to create a more impressive legacy, but its going to take a pretty lean year to get these players some traction.

 

[Felidae]

I guess I'll give my thoughts on a few players..

Mitch Marner

3× top 10 in points, known as one of the better two way wingers in the league (whether it's earned is up for discussion I suppose), plays on one of the most popular teams, and is only 27. May very well add another top 10 point finish, the number of players with 4 of those not in the HOF is low. I say he gets in.

Matthew Tkachuk

2× top 10 in points, was a hart finalist, and has had 2 solid postseason runs, one of which he was the Conn Smythe candidate for had the Panthers won, also only 27. The main thing that has me questioning his potential induction is how he'll age. Tkachuk plays a very physically taxing game, and is one of the slowest skaters on the team. As he gets older I'm not sure his body will be able to keep up with his high hockey IQ. It doesn't help he's played a crapton of regular and postseason hockey, and I don't think that's changing anytime soon. I'm leaning unsure, so won't get my vote.


Jamie Benn

Lead the league in points and was a runner up the next year. High peak, but he declined significantly and immediately after his last scoring finish. Was barely above half a point per game some years when league scoring skyrocketed. No


Tyler Seguin

Same as above, and with a weaker peak too.


Taylor Hall

Same deal as Benn, just replace the Art Ross with the Hart trophy.


Mikko Rantanen

Excellent postseason stats, 3× top 10 in points and goals, likely adding to that. Added bonus is that he's very likely going down as the 3rd most productive Finnish player of all time. I'm fairly confident with this one, he's going in.


Juuse Saros

Crazy he has so few votes. 4× top 10 in sv%, and while he is 29, I feel like recent goalies have been extending their prime past their 30s. He may very well end up going down as the best Finnish goalie of of time too. I know goalie was the hardest position to get into the HOF, Vernon's recent induction may have opened the floodgates.. I say he'll get in.


Jack Eichel

Kinda surprised he has so many votes.. I get he has the Conn Smythe worthy run. But he hasn't been a top 10 point producer in the RS since 2019. I get he's currently 4th in scoring.. but that's 2× top 10 in scoring at age 28, he needs to add a few more. It's one thing if he started receiving selke recognition to make up for his lower offensive totals, but that hasn't been the case. I think he falls short, too little too late sort of thing.


Ryan O Reilly

Has a decent selke record, won one, was a finalist another time, and a few years he came close to being a finalist. The Smythe certainly helps too, but I don't think it's enough unless he starts winning more selkes. With the emergence of some younger two way players, I don't think that's likely to happen. He falls short imo.


Alex Pietrangelo

His days of being in Norris contention are over, and in his prime he came close twice to being a Norris finalist, with multiple years getting a few votes here and there. Now whether his Norris record should have been better.. that's another discussion. But I don't think he makes it.

 

[Chuck Testa]

Kaspars Daugavins

 

[BB88]

From the Finns I say Rantanen

He’s going to end up anywhere with 1200-1400 points ar the end of his career and is a Stanley Cup winner and was key part of it

I think everyone can agree with him being one of the wingers in the league in his era


Other big names I’ll be fairly confident are Marner, Tkachuk, Pietrangelo, Giroux, Burns, Igor

 

[banks]

I know the stats aren't quite as impressive as some others, and his games streak has some detractors. But Phil Kessel deserves to be in the HHoF, in my opinion.

He beat cancer, then followed that up with the longest ironman streak in league history. It's an incredible story and achievement.

Lots of players make it in because their stats are just like other players who are there already. I don't like that induction method. Phil Kessel actually did something incredible, and his display in the Hall would be a popular and inspiring one.